Will we have P.E.T.A.? : V

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:37 am

Will skyrim have people for the ethical treatment of argonians(and khajeits)? Or will their be slavery? and do you wish it to be in the game?

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:32 pm

Nah.Argonians and Khajits are humanoids, that doesnt make sense.
PS Oh and i dont like slavers, my caracter is a assassin (nightblade), but slavers i would kill fo free. :batman:

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:03 pm

Lore wise, Argonians have earned their freedom at this point,so there would be no slaves.

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:25 am

well, i guess slavery would add depth, and another social class.

and it would be pretty epic to show all the humans and elves who's boss, by saving there asses from dragons while playing as argonians or kajhit.

it would also make for some interesting quest lines.

But i dont think it will be included

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:33 pm

It's possible. Though I think they'll probably be called the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Twin_Lamps.

Also MC.Jesus: slavery is outlawed, not gone. The Infernal City makes mention of Attrebus "freeing" some Argonian slaves, for example.
Probably doesn't help that Helseth was most likely decapitated Marie Antionette-style by the An-Xileel.

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:17 pm

i would probably like it in some other way than argonians and khajiits but i don't really care (unless i can get slaves for myself)

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:15 pm

Technicaly it should be a D now as it's the Dunmer getting shafted by the Argonians this time.

Or even D for dragons as they're going to get wiped out again by end game.

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:38 pm

I liked freeing the slaves in Morrowind and killing everyone in Dren plantation. It added a lot of depth and made me feel like I was doing what was right but not even part of a quest. Oblivion had none of that. And it was the only thing in Morrowind that was like it.

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:40 am

as far as i know the practice was banned everywhere in the empire except morrowind

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:17 pm

Why are people associating slavery with only Argonians and Khajiit? Imperials were once slaves. Bretons were once slaves. Ogres were even slaves. Morrowind's about nine years in the past direction. Even if there was slavery, why should it be Argonian or Khajiit slavery?

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:01 pm

as far as i know the practice was banned everywhere in the empire except morrowind

WAS banned, when we had Empire, but now is different.Sure Imperials or Bretons wouldnt accept such thing in their country, but other races...we will see.

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:45 am

Why are people associating slavery with only Argonians and Khajiit? Imperials were once slaves. Bretons were once slaves. Ogres were even slaves. Morrowind's about nine years in the past direction. Even if there was slavery, why should it be Argonian or Khajiit slavery?

Because if i added imperials i couldnt have said P.E.T.A?

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:44 pm

Let's make slaves out of Goblins and Ogres!

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:11 pm

Because if i added imperials i couldnt have said P.E.T.A?

:lol:

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:20 am

Because if i added imperials i couldnt have said P.E.T.A?

No.You meant from the beggining that was about "beast" races.PETA is PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENTS OF ANIMALS.

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:05 pm

No.You meant from the beggining that was about "beast" races.PETA is PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENTS OF ANIMALS.

People for the ethical treatment of Argonians and Khajits.

PETAK!

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:19 pm

I like the idea but I don't think it'll happen. From what I've understood the Argonians are a pretty powerful force now so it wouldn't be smart to have their friends as slaves in Skyrim. It's not the kind of thing I'd expect to see there anyway.

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:18 pm

Banned does not mean gone, slavery lasted in the United States long after it was outlawed in the remote regions of the country. The same can be applied to the Empire. (Government can't be everywhere)

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:33 pm

Banned does not mean gone, slavery lasted in the United States long after it was outlawed in the remote regions of the country. The same can be applied to the Empire. (Government can't be everywhere)

Right, but the Argonians kicked the nation of Morrowind's ass after it underwent a severe tragedy... resulting in Morrowind ceasing to exist, so I highly doubt Dark Elves have the power to enslave anyone, at this point, and as far as we know, Dark Elves were the only race to enslave Argonians and Khajiit. That could change, but Argonia is very powerful, now, and I don't think people would dare to attempt to degrade Argonians as the Dunmer once did.

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:39 pm

Slavery was already dying out during the events of Morrowind and there was no real evidence of slavery still existing in The Infernal City (if I recall correctly, the only time it was even mentioned was when it explained the Argonians' motives for invading Morrowind), so as long as the Mede line is still in power during Skyrim, I think we'll be able to safely say that there won't be any slavery.

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:10 am

Only if I can be a slaver also.

Video game slavery is cool. Specially grouping the Dark Elf slaves with the Argonians in unarmed combat in our slaver pit fights.

And pairing Bosmer with Khajiit.

Oooh and High Elf with Nords.

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:19 am

Lore wise, Argonians have earned their freedom at this point,so there would be no slaves.

With the empire crumbling, and hardly an Argonian influence over Skyrim, who knows?

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:59 am

I would like slavery, but not as a nation-wide institution. Instead just have it be powerful nobles enslaving those below them. They could enslave ogres and other beasts, as well as captured people, not really impacted by race. The beast slavery was in Oblivion.

» Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:07 pm

I dont know. What are the Nord views on slavery?

» Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:53 am

Probably doesn't help that Helseth was most likely decapitated Marie Antionette-style by the An-Xileel.

Er, Helseth was against slavery.