Please don't say it will. I love the Crysis series and I've gotten all the games and even the book but I won't be able to get Crysis 3 if Origin is a requirement because I will never give EA the ability to lock me out of the games I've legally bought for some inane reason.

I'm with you. Origin should always be optional. There is no reason why this piece of adware needs to be launched when you're playing a game. I want to see Crysis 3 either be a proper standalone piece of software of some changes to the way Origin works. My purchase decision will rest upon this.

Yes. It will be great.
No pirates, less hackers, cloud support, faster updates...

Yes. It will be great.
No pirates, less hackers, cloud support, faster updates...
You are an idiot if you believe that.I'll give you an example with BF3 which requires Origin.
1. No pirates? Nope,you can download the single player right away and play it without an issue for free.
2. Less hackers? Nope.Although the game uses PunkBuster(best anticheating system in my opinion) there are still lots of hackers,who use paid hacks,which are much harder to detect.Origin has nothing to do with protection against cheaters.
3. Cloud support? Yes,it has and that's at least one positive thing.
4. Faster updates? HELL NO. I waited 4 MONTHS for a single patch.4 months.The PC patch got delayed because of console certifications.So Origin doesn't help with faster updates.It only limits you to download the patches from there.You can't download the patches from anywhere else which is a big issue for some people.

Yes. It will be great.
No pirates, less hackers, cloud support, faster updates...
You are an idiot if you believe that.I'll give you an example with BF3 which requires Origin.
1. No pirates? Nope,you can download the single player right away and play it without an issue for free.
2. Less hackers? Nope.Although the game uses PunkBuster(best anticheating system in my opinion) there are still lots of hackers,who use paid hacks,which are much harder to detect.Origin has nothing to do with protection against cheaters.
3. Cloud support? Yes,it has and that's at least one positive thing.
4. Faster updates? HELL NO. I waited 4 MONTHS for a single patch.4 months.The PC patch got delayed because of console certifications.So Origin doesn't help with faster updates.It only limits you to download the patches from there.You can't download the patches from anywhere else which is a big issue for some people.


1. Yes, the singleplayer. But not the Multiplayer... Every games Singleplayer can be cracked

2. BF3 has almost no hackers. And Origin makes it easy to ban an account.

3. As I said, it's better.

4. The reason why BF3 patches take 6 months is because it costs too much to make a patch on consoles, so they wait until they have many fixes before rolling it out.
Crytek in the other hand, releases a patch every 20 days and Origin would be very useful for that.

1. Yes, the singleplayer. But not the Multiplayer... Every games Singleplayer can be cracked

2. BF3 has almost no hackers. And Origin makes it easy to ban an account.

3. As I said, it's better.

4. The reason why BF3 patches take 6 months is because it costs too much to make a patch on consoles, so they wait until they have many fixes before rolling it out.
Crytek in the other hand, releases a patch every 20 days and Origin would be very useful for that.
1. The game will still be pirated.And some people who would buy the game won't do it,because it will require Origin and won't be available on Steam.So in my opinion if Origin is required that would decrease sells.
2. Origin doesn't do anything against hackers.It's Punkbuster.Also you can report cheaters using Battlelog,but I'm not so sure how good this is.The leaderboards are still full with cheaters/statpadders.Again - Origin does nothing agaisnt cheaters.
3. Sure,Origin has those stuff,but Steam has them too and they're better there.Why not release the game on both platforms?
4. Patches can be released on PC every week if they wanted.But they didn't.Everything has to be the same on all platforms.And since Crytek are also doing that - they want the console versions to be pretty much the same as the PC version,I'm sure the PC version will suffer.Crysis 2 anyone?

Yes. It will be great.
No pirates, less hackers, cloud support, faster updates...

Origin does nothing that a standalone piece of software should do anyway. There is no reason that Crysis 3 couldn't have inbuilt cheat protection and a robust user account system.

Origin is simply a market store for EA. The reason they enforce it on players is to get a direct pipeline into your PC which they use to send adverts for their products directly onto your machine. Plus there is the issue of the program 'scanning' your system for market research purposes. Although this has been clarified to some degree and is not much worse than what the other digital platforms do as well.

I'm all for publishers providing a digital platform for their products for those that want to use them, it's the 'install it or f*ck off' attitude I don't like. It was no accident that this new policy of enforced usage was bolted onto one of the most anticipated titles of recent years.

I'm all for publishers providing a digital platform for their products for those that want to use them, it's the 'install it or f*ck off' attitude I don't like. It was no accident that this new policy of enforced usage was bolted onto one of the most anticipated titles of recent years.
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Oh, the hypocrisy. Everyone's crying because EA forces you to use Origin if you want to play certain games, but... Doesn't Valve do the same with Steam yet everybody loves them? Of course, Steam is amazing and 10 times better than Origin imo, but this is actually the same...

I agree with TSAndrey, you barely see any hacker in BF3, you get cloud support and faster updates. And yeah, even piracy is harder with BF3, if I remember correctly, people could play MP Crysis 2 even with a pirated version, I highly doubt BF3 is the same case.

Please don't say it will. I love the Crysis series and I've gotten all the games and even the book but I won't be able to get Crysis 3 if Origin is a requirement because I will never give EA the ability to lock me out of the games I've legally bought for some inane reason.
Perhaps you should try and understand what you've 'legally bought'. I'll give you a clue.. if you don't have a disc, then nothing.

What you have paid is a licence fee. You have purchased for yourself a unilateral set of obligations in return to use someone else's software. You don't actually own anything, and your rights are extremely limited. What you agree to with the EULA is not a contract either, EA have no obligations, you have many.

2. BF3 has almost no hackers. And Origin makes it easy to ban an account.
Lol I disagree with this. Hackers are often banned, but there is no shortage of them. As has been said anyway, that is down to punkbuster, not Origin.

The reason why I mentioned that Origin helps with stopping hackers is that it gives Crytek an easy option for banning.
This validation system svcks and when Crytek bans people they only ban the key not even the account. Not to mention that you can create several accounts with one CD key.

This isn't possible if you have Origin. Only one account with one CD key. And when the account gets banned it can't play any other EA game.

I hope not. I only got origin for bf 3, because i didnt saw that one coming. No more games on origin thats 4 sure. Hope crytek can stand up to the dikeheads at ea corp and dont make it manditory to be on origin

I hope not. I only got origin for bf 3, because i didnt saw that one coming. No more games on origin thats 4 sure. Hope crytek can stand up to the dikeheads at ea corp and dont make it manditory to be on origin
LOL.

Crytek don't care about consumer convenience, they just want to make a game which actually sells. Hell, they'd probably prefer that Crysis 3 has a mandatory link to Origin, simply to lower the amount of piracy of their products.

What they don't understand, is that most people are more than willing to pay for something if they think they're getting value for their money.. guess why Crysis 2 was pirated so much then..

I pre-ordered crysis 2 and sold it after 2 days. Piece of crap game. I dont pirate, because this seriously harms the industry. I can upload a picture of my big pc collection which goes back more then 10 years. Steam is full of other titles 2.
I do however reach a point in which i'm considering to do so. I already missed out on me3 and now that this game will also have the same issue, i really am in doubt here. I am done with these useless client and stupid protections. Gaming nowadays is nothing compaired to the good old day with solid pc games. 90% is consolecrap and casual rubish!

I think Origin is great. I can purchase a discounted Crysis, Crysis 2 cd key off G2Play or cdkeysdirect and redeem/download/play the game without a physical cd in my optical drive.
And when the game is installed and ready to play I don't need Origin to launch it. The game's shortcut are automatically placed in my "Games" folder in the start menu after installation. So I don't know what you're complaining about.

So does this mean id hve to pre order crysis 3 thru origin for xbox just to get overkill pack with hunter edition? **** tht im not wasting my time pre ordering a game thru origin, why hasnt gamestop givin hunter edition with the bonus option packs with xbox or ps3 yet wtf is going on with tht ?bs pc has hunter edition but they havent said a dam thing about it for xbox or ps3 but crytek is saying pre order on origin for overkill not a gamestore for xbox or ps3 version same with stalker and predator origin is ****, just pre order games at a store its better u get it the day its out

So does this mean id hve to pre order crysis 3 thru origin for xbox just to get overkill pack with hunter edition? **** tht im not wasting my time pre ordering a game thru origin, why hasnt gamestop givin hunter edition with the bonus option packs with xbox or ps3 yet wtf is going on with tht ?bs pc has hunter edition but they havent said a dam thing about it for xbox or ps3 but crytek is saying pre order on origin for overkill not a gamestore for xbox or ps3 version same with stalker and predator origin is ****, just pre order games at a store its better u get it the day its out

First I wanted to anwers your stupid question, but then i saw you are from the USA. This immediately explained why you aksed what you asked. Did you install the Origin software on your xbox?
You can find in the arcadestore. Be sure to get the latest version!

No i didnt i dont plan to, im only asking when gamestores will give xbox and ps3 hunter for pre orders..... i personally dnt like pre ordering games thru an online store i never did tht before except buy a game thru ebay

Oh, the hypocrisy. Everyone's crying because EA forces you to use Origin if you want to play certain games, but... Doesn't Valve do the same with Steam yet everybody loves them? Of course, Steam is amazing and 10 times better than Origin imo, but this is actually the same...

I agree with TSAndrey, you barely see any hacker in BF3, you get cloud support and faster updates. And yeah, even piracy is harder with BF3, if I remember correctly, people could play MP Crysis 2 even with a pirated version, I highly doubt BF3 is the same case.

Except Steam just keeps a track of games within it's own folder, Origin scans your entire machine to see every bit of software installed on it as well as what hardware you have in your machine. Steam is acceptable because it only tracks what's pertinent to it's own folder and it gives users the options to opt out of any hardware scans.

Also, if you're found cheating or doing really bad crap, VAC will lock you out of multiplayer but you can still play the singleplayer. Origin means you can't play the game you legally purchased at all. **** that.

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Oh, the hypocrisy. Everyone's crying because EA forces you to use Origin if you want to play certain games, but... Doesn't Valve do the same with Steam yet everybody loves them? Of course, Steam is amazing and 10 times better than Origin imo, but this is actually the same...

I agree with TSAndrey, you barely see any hacker in BF3, you get cloud support and faster updates. And yeah, even piracy is harder with BF3, if I remember correctly, people could play MP Crysis 2 even with a pirated version, I highly doubt BF3 is the same case.

compairing Steam to origin is comparing flying to the moon vs walking to the moon. Origin is the one that forces you to walk.

Steam is been here for more then 10 years already and was nr1 and did this to save the pc industry and not to HARM the industry, like EA is doing at the moment. Steam is a multi-platform and MULTI publisher platform for pc games, friends, stores, cloud-settings and more options then you can think off my friend. I didn want steam when it came out, but the go-to-market from Valve is totally different then the go-to-market from EA! ?You should really start to look past these 2 digital platforms and look at the big picture here dude!! EA is a greedy selfish and more then ever stupid organization then only thinks about the safe over at the bank, instead of the gamers - THE PEOPLE WHO BUY THEIR STUFF - and again you should google the reason why origin was created after 10 years from steam.

The mission and aims that Valve has are seriously different then those that EA has!!

When did EA ever gave a DLC for free? When did EA ever give a MOD kit for games for free? When EA ever made a free-2-play game? WHEN???

Compairing Steam to origin, that is a real good 1 my friend. Even the beta-release of steam worked better then this beta client that of origin ever did!

Sorry, I posted an error in my last post. You don't just get banned from that game, you get banned from ALL your games.

@Chaos_Mauler1:
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http://www.computerbase.de/news/2012-04/ea-lockert-restriktionen-fuer-gesperrte-origin-accounts/

Except Steam just keeps a track of games within it's own folder, Origin scans your entire machine to see every bit of software installed on it as well as what hardware you have in your machine. Steam is acceptable because it only tracks what's pertinent to it's own folder and it gives users the options to opt out of any hardware scans.
Go and research a little bit on the Internet and find out that a LOT of stuff scans your PC pretty much like Origin does, or more. And yeah, you're probably using that "stuff" right now.


Also, if you're found cheating or doing really bad crap, VAC will lock you out of multiplayer but you can still play the singleplayer. Origin means you can't play the game you legally purchased at all. **** that.To begin with, you don't even deserve to keep your account if you're cheating. I totally support what EA is doing there.

Steam is a multi-platform and MULTI publisher platform for pc games, friends, stores, cloud-settings and more options then you can think off my friend.
Origin is the same except it's not multi-platform.

I didn want steam when it came out, but the go-to-market from Valve is totally different then the go-to-market from EA! ?You should really start to look past these 2 digital platforms and look at the big picture here dude!! EA is a greedy selfish and more then ever stupid organization then only thinks about the safe over at the bank, instead of the gamers - THE PEOPLE WHO BUY THEIR STUFFBut the thing is Steam isn't Valve, they sell other games too such as Activi$ion's, and those are almost as greedy as Electronic Farts.

The mission and aims that Valve has are seriously different then those that EA has!! Not at all, they both want money, however Valve sure is user-friendlier than EA is.

When did EA ever gave a DLC for free?Bad Company 2 had free maps and its only DLC is a kick ass expansion, ands it's not an old game.
When did EA ever give a MOD kit for games for free?It's funny how you're asking this in a Crysis forum lol.
When EA ever made a free-2-play game? WHEN???Battlefield Heroes, Battlefield P4F, Battleforge, etc...

Compairing Steam to origin, that is a real good 1 my friend. Even the beta-release of steam worked better then this beta client that of origin ever did!As I said I still think Steam is 100 times better than Origin, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't give it a shot. Steam svcked at first too, maybe Origin will be good in the future.

So it is not same! Nice try but insert coin and try again. You are basically saying the same as me. Ea svcks big time and steam/valve knows how to carry out a good strategy.
Giving origin a try, your funny. Hell no dude....never ever. Ea tricked me with bf3, but that the last. I hope for crytek they put it on steam if they want to earn some pc money. I will never a pc physical copy that has the ea logo on and needs origin. Origin has to be an option

Except Steam just keeps a track of games within it's own folder, Origin scans your entire machine to see every bit of software installed on it as well as what hardware you have in your machine. Steam is acceptable because it only tracks what's pertinent to it's own folder and it gives users the options to opt out of any hardware scans.
There is literally SO much scanning your PC right this second. Origin is doing nothing that isn't already being done.

Also, if you're found cheating or doing really bad crap, VAC will lock you out of multiplayer but you can still play the singleplayer. Origin means you can't play the game you legally purchased at all. **** that.
*Sigh* you didn't 'legally purchase' anything unless you bought the physical disc; in which case, the disc is yours, not the IP.

What you've bought is a set of obligations and a revokable permission to use their IP within parameters to which you have agreed - a licence.

A licence is not a contract. Game publishers can, within reason, do whatever the hell they like to you because of it.
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That being said, I dislike EA as a company, their practices and the general money-first attitude they have. When Valve does something, it's about giving customer service, when EA does the same thing later, it's because they clocked that it can make money.

For an interesting read, google Valve's employee handbook - it'll really open your eyes to how good a company they are in comparison. Of course, there are plenty of PC developers who still give a ****. Arenanet and CDProjekt Red are two of them.