I know we have far too little info about Skyrim. But what is your expectations? I can't imagine the a game can be better than Oblivion. The few flaws Oblivion had could easily be avoided with mods. Nonetheless I will buy Skyrim and ruin my life by playing it 1000+ hours!

to be honest, the only part of Oblivion I like more than Morrowind was the graphics, physics, combat, and npcs. Other than that, they streamlined Oblivion way too much, and I feel like they're going to do the same thing with Skyrim

I can think of many games better than Oblivion. (don't get me wrong, I love Oblivion)

But I am sure that Bethesda will do everything they can to improve upon the many (not few) flaws that Oblivion has.

Do I want it to be? Of course.
Will it be? There's not enough to say. All the pieces are there, but I won't have my opinion until I can see how they fit together in the end. But everything I learn about Skyrim is measured in a healthy dose of optimistic interest coupled with a healthy dose of cautious skepticism for safety.

Apparently oblivion was way to high fantasy for them and skyrim will be low fantasy.

Now that just made me wtf and accidentally everything.

wait... Are you agreeing with me? lol, i'm confused

what kind of question is this?
of course its gonna be better

If they simply used oblivions same engine and added duel wielding and the new spell effects they mentioned plus the new setting then its already a better game than oblivion. (because i really, realllllllly like duel wielding especially with the spell option)

Happy to hear that ;D

I agree, completely..

I dont know all i know is Oblivion was not High fantasy, it was extremely low fantasy and somewhat of a bland game. If skyrim is even lower fantasy im scared.

Oh and

morrowind>oblivion.

Word.
I'm expecting oblivion 1.5. It'll be better than oblivion, but it won't be in the same league as morrowind.

It's gonna be difficult, but let's not degrade the thread into a versus thread.

i just think as long as they don't take too much away from the prvious game(s) then it'll be an amazing game

True. No need to make it easier to hit a bigger audience... :toughninja:

I damn hope so.....I damn hope so.

Dunno to the honest. The changes Bethesda has mentioned seem like tidbits to me, and we all know that Bethesda doesn't have the greatest track record for promises. Radiant AI in Oblivion was half baked to say the least, and the combat *was* better than in Morrowind, but it was far from great imo. Same deal with Fallout 3. "Improved" Radiant AI pretty much meant that the NPC's hardly interacted at all, and VATS felt more like a novelty than a smoothly integrated gameplay feature. Combat was pretty crap in that too.


So, yeah, the proof is in the pudding. I'm withholding judgment until I see actual, continuous gameplay footage, and not just their 5 second clip mash ups which they make for their main trailers.

:facepalm:

Why does every thread turn into an Oblivion bash fest?

I like Morrowind better than Oblivion too but Oblivion was still an enjoyable game that actually improved things from Morrowind. It's not like Morrowind was a perfect game either. Also, I am sick and tired of people being scared of the use of the term "low fantasy". From the literal definition, Skyrim is already far from being "low fantasy". I think it is going to be low fantasy in that characters won't be larger than life and the world will have real life problems. It probably refers specifically with the new art direction. Remember Todd's talk about JRPGs being really high fantasy? I think Skyrim is low fantasy in this context in that there is nothing to over the top. Also, the example of how low fantasy is applied is instead of some function in the world of Skyrim being explained as "it's magic, lol" to "the ore that ti is created with produces a magical substance that allows this to function". Of course I can be completely wrong about my assumption, but I don't see how the literary definition of low fantasy can be applied to Skyrim in any way where you fight trolls, have two different spells in each hand, and fight dragons.

Anyways, it is technically too early to tell if Skyrim will be better than Oblivion. However, I am impressed about what I have seen so far and I have faith that Bethesda will craft a better game than Oblivion. I like what I am seeing about the improved Radiant AI, the combat, dragon shouts, improved level scaling, and seemingly more interesting lore. I personally can't wait to insert the Skyrim disc into my PC for the first time.

Can't wait for the demo... It's comming sooner than the game of course, which means less waiting :celebration:

How can they take any MORE away ?

I'm optimistic to the information we have received and because I love the Elder Scrolls. Both Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3 all had their faults and I've played them for thousands of hours.
I can' say whether it's better or worse until I've played the game.

/kiss

Oblivion will be the standard by which I judge Skyrim. If Skyrim surpasses Oblivion, then I will have considered it a success. However if it is somehow worse than Oblivion I will have no choice but to deem it an utter failure as an Elder Scrolls game. My reasons for this are that , even though Oblivion was a good game, and at times great, it was mediocre at best for an Elder Scrolls game. So they damn well better make Skyrim better than Oblivion, or I'll rage

o_O

I could think of 100+ of ways to make Oblivion better.

For example it could've been Morrowind with better graphics and combat...

Possibly, we'll have to see

While I did like and enjoy Morrowind and Oblivion, I feel this game will be better than Oblivion but can't hold up to Morrowind for some reason.