I am sure this has been said before but it has to be a whatever limit the 360 is at. They cannot make a game like this multi-disk.......they could but I am pretty sure it would hurt 360 sales because people would keep having to switch disks.

The only real reason it would need to be bigger than one disk is if there is lots of FMV in the game which Bethesda games usually have little to none.

most of you guys seem to only see it one 2 ways (there are a couple on here who mentioned a third and i commend you for having a brain)

just because a game is on 2 (or more discs) doesnt mean youd reach a point in the game where you would have to switch discs. and to the guy above who said he didnt care if he had to switch discs, its an open world game there isnt a point where you could switch disc and then continue on from that point on with disc 2. the only way they could make that possible would be horrible and it would be like all closed cities (oblivion style cities) are on disc 1 and everything outside is disc 2.

since that would just svck... there is the other multi disc logical avenue... a game play disc and an install data disc. and for the life of me i cant see why 80% of you dont understand this or forget it... im not saying Bethesda is doing this or that its a good idea manly because of the people with older 360's with either no hard drives or very small ones, and ps3 owners with the smaller hard drives...

for the guy who said earlier that blu ray movie dont look that much better than DVD's either needs glasses or a new TV.... the 360's game disc size is 8.5 i believe and the ps3 game disc size is 25gb with a single layer and 50 with a dual.. there are also reports that with a firmware update the ps3 could read pioneer16 layer 400gb blue ray disc (yea ok so thats not very game practice but its cool as hell)

I have said this like 5 [censored]ing times already. The PC version will be on 2 discs. THERE IS NO "SWAPPING OUT" POINTS BECAUSE IT SUPPORTS A FULL INTSALL! What about that do you not understand? The 360/PS3 version may be on a single disc, but the PC version WILL NOT fit on a single disc.


No. But that is permission for you understand that I am talking about the PC version ONLY, since you and several other people can't seem to get that through your thick skulls.

I swear with some of these people it's like talking a brick wall.

2 DVD's. Otherwise it would svck on the 360.

Why would the PC version be on 2 discs when the 360 version is on 1 dispite it being EXACTLY THE SAME GAME, game data and all. The 360 version will just have lower graphics settings, not lower quality textures. Nothing about the game data will be different, period. Just dig though the files of Oblivion, or Fallout, they even include all the controller button images for menus on consoles.

The PC version will have higher quality textures. You're in denial.

Is there some important reason I missed why the amount of disks actually matters?

You are correct and they discontinued making hd-dvd players along time ago. Blu-ray won the war between the two.

Hey now can't we all just agree that the game is going to be awesome and get along.

Dude, you have no idea how many times I've had to reiterate the same thing over and over again. It took like 4 pages for some just to realize my comments were referring only to the PC version of Skyrim, despite having mentioned it several times. Now, with giant-sized bolded letters.

I know you got a point.

Do you have any idea how mip-maps work? Its what allow lower quality textures without actually having to make those lower quality textures.

Graphics settings =/= game files

The texture files will be 100% identical, but the consoles will have the settings lowered for performance. Period.

I'll be getting it on Steam so it doesn't really matter to me, I would've preferred Blu-Ray if I was to buy a physical copy though, why would I choose an inferior format over that? Shame not all games on all consoles can come out on Blu-Ray.

I don't think there are any advantages to blu-ray except more space (all the good high quality movies are on blu-ray because the file sizes for HD movies are enormous) although I could be wrong but I haven't heard of anything else

You are right. Thats the only reason. Blu-ray discs can hold 25GB a side, so 1080p movies can fit on half of that. Aside from that, there is no reason to use it if its not needed, which it wont be.

The lower sizes are also used for distant objects as far as I know, however if a system don't use the largest textures would it not reduce loading time if they are dropped from the file?
Also an solution if the size start pushing against the dvd size limit.

The problem is that (sadly) you cannot think on a PC version ONLY perspective in a multi-platform game. And less in a game that is supposeadly created mainly with console users in mind.

I understand how it works, but this is not 2006. A high resolution texture from 2006 is not the same as a high resolution texture in 2011. 360 hardware may be unchanged since 2005, but PC hardware continues to advance. That's 5, nearly 6 years of hardware advancement. GPUs that are far more capable, with much faster and larger pools of memory. BGS will not be able to squeeze full-resolution PC textures on the 360 disc. Your argument, while valid, is not without it's flaws.

I hope its on 2 DVDs for some reason, the more the better, thats was she said.
No but really there no way they can fit everything on one disk without them cutting back, I hope you can install it to your harddrive aswell, to decrease the loading times.

Oblivion used mostly 512x512 for world objects. We will probably see 1024x1024 for world objects in skyrim. Oh look, same resolution used in Fallout 3 and NV.

Im not seeing any flaws. The game will be ported from the 360 version, like most all games these days. And the 360 version HAS TO fit on one disc which can only hold up to 9.4GB, so what in gods name can they add to the PC version that would make it go over the top?


Edit: Correction, I was confusing dual sided and dual layered. A dual layerd disc can hold 8.54GB. But changes nothing to the argument.

Good thing I have a PS3.

Why?

Hardly, the game is being made for the lowest common denominator. Neither PS3 nor PC will be given more data to play around with, and while the PC can make better use of what it gets, it could be getting much more.

The game is not being ported from the 360 version, it is being developed simultaneously along side the 360 and PS3. Of course the 360 version "has to" fit on a single disc, but the PC version does not. This point I have been making for several pages now. You are under the impression the PC version will be a direct port from the 360, but that is where you are wrong. The PC version will not fit on a single disc, despite that you are apparently bothered by the idea PC gamers will enjoy an overall better game.