Dual layer DVD holds 9.4GB More then most any game needs by todays standards. Few games actually spill over to more then 1 DVD Skyrim sure as hell wont be one of them.

This.

And what is "zero-day platform locking"?

I GUARANTEE you Skyrim will be 2 DVDs minimum.

Then why was Mass Effect 2?

He doesn't know what he's talking about. Skyrim will be like 12 to 15 GB, more than any single DVD can hold.

Good thing I'm playing on PS3.

Yeah, but it won't support a full install, which means slower load times.

I have no idea why, but this made me chuckle.

But on topic, while I hope that the game is massive, I doubt it will be as using multiple disks on a sandbox style game like Skyrim would kill the Xbox version.


... not that I care, because I'm getting the PC version, but still, Bethesda wouldn't do that. They care way too much about the Xbox. Mine is just gathering dust.

The blu-ray on PS3 reads a lot slower then the 360s DVD drive. Which is why they have redundant data on the discs,its why MGS filled the blu ray. It was not tons of epic gameplay,it was just hours of video plus redundant data.Blu-rays space advantage is nonsense for games.

How can you claim to know more than him?? Unless you're partial to some sort of industrial espionage the rest of us haven't been informed of, then you can't say that for certain. Judging by the fact the heightmap will be the same sort of size as Oblivion (we have been told this), thus unless they make a crazy amount of high poly meshes and high res textures, there's no way they could reach 12 GB. And seeing as it's still the same hardware (albeit improved engine this time round), it won't be massively massively bigger than Oblivion. And if worse comes to worse then they'll just give the 360 even lower res textures.

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@thatkhajiitbock, that's just nonsense now. Not debating your points about MGS (because I don't know either way), but more space means better textures and in the case of TES, a larger game world. My Oblivion folder on PC, complete with all of my mods, is 26GB. And I've seen bigger folders. You can't tell me all of that is redundant, and if you try then you clearly have no idea

If it really came down to it like that.(it wont) The high res textures could be put on another disc or certain end game content moved to another disc to make room then installed.

MGS4 uses uncompressed PCM audio in like 7.1 dolby, that is why it filled the disc. 360 games have redundant data as well, the speed of it's DVD drive over the PS3's blu-ray is negligible. The PS3 can juggle a lot more information simultaneously. Neither of the drives are comparable to 7200-10000 RPM hard disk.

I hope its many disk's for 360 user :celebration: And the PS3 users get Blu-ray 1 disk....


And PC :sadvaultboy: Gets to pre install with better textures and maybe HDR and AA.... :sadvaultboy:

How fast is your BDD on your PC because the way the PS3's works it would require one hell of a pre install. Also what I mean by redundant is it has the same files packed together to make up for the slow drive so about 20% of the disc is taken up by this "redundant" extra files. like when you play cod online the character and gun models stuff(mesh ect) has a copy for each map,so it becomes less effective the more data you have,the more redundant data you need so it can stream from the disc properly.

Please stop spreading lies.

My HDD is 7200 rpm. Not sure how this compares. And surely redundant data means it's less efficient because it has to search through all that extra stuff to find it?? You could be right, but even still bigger discs (at least for me being a PC user) means more game. Or better textures etc.

Your right,I'am going off of old info.

The data transfer of my 4x BD drive is 18 MB/s, where the 360's 12x DVD drive is only 16.5. An 8x BD drive is 36 MB/s.

If they optimize for the BD on PS3 then the load times should be fine. Uncharted 2 had one load screen so It might have more to do with how they get it optimized and running.

I'm almost positive the PS3 version will support a partial install to improve load times, not really concerned about that. I was just hoping they would release a PC version on blu-ray, but it's unlikely due to production costs of BD vs. DVD.

Maybe if they charge a little more for a BD version for PC.

I saw HD-DVD and laughed.

Yea it costs pennies per dvd these days. I just want to play Skyrim now idc if I have to use 10 CD's or low res textures.

Last I checked Mass Effect has hundreds of hours of voice files. TES is not the kind of game where you make a lot of morally conflicting dialog choices requiring a unique response to each choice. And unless they plan on giving the player a voice in Skyrim, you can cut out all the PC voice files. Bringing the expected file size well below the 15GB that ME2 had