Will skyrim have katana's / cutlesses?

Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:18 am

Hold on. Let's not pretend this is amazing or that the sword is hyper sharp. Can you cut a bullet in half with a sword (any sword) using human strength? Nope. The sheer amount of energy in the bullet is the only reason it fragments and... guess what... a bullet can fragment hitting just about anything. EVEN WATER!!!!!!!


Yes you can it just depends on the density not the sharpness. please don't try to explain things you have absolutely no comprehension of.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:06 am

I seriously hope there are katanas. Whats more I hope they look like actual Samurai swords and not the odd shape that akaviri katanas were. Goldbrand looked about perfect.

And I'd like to be able to weild it with both hands and get a bonus to damage, or weild it in one hand with a shield. I don't expect to be able to do that but it would make me sooooo happy.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:18 am

Though I think that katanas were, indeed, good weapons for their time, good at cutting stuff (or at least Wikipedia tells so)... you must take into account that modern katanas are probably made with modern techniques. And that everything in TV is controlled in some way.


again; japan was isolated form the rest of the world and was able to perfect the manufacturing of swords. the only limit that stopped japan from developing even more advanced metals was because in that time the were not aware of any way to make a forge hotter. they were simply limited by the heat they were able to produce from a forge. modern day katanas are cheaper and can be massed produced because it is far easier to smelt the ores and actually get the heat required to forge low alloy steel. I'm sure if they were aware of ways to make hotter forges they would have advanced even further alloys.
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Post » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:44 pm

Ninja's did use katana's however in that time peroid they were very expenesive and thus usually only samuari's could afford them. when you see a katana cut another sowrd in half that is not hollywood that is real true life chemistry and physics. katanas were expensive because of the superior forging required to make them. this forging made them 10x denser than the average sword and is the reason why they are able to cut through less dense and far less expensive swords. think of samurai's as the rich knight or royalty figure and ninja's as poor thiefs and assasins.

That is complete BS, superior forging? The Celts were folding their metal 2 millennia earlier! The Japanese never experimented, they just stuck with a crappy sword. European Blacksmiths were constantly experimenting and improving their swords and their swords were superior in many ways.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:47 am

That sounds like something from Tenchu Z xD But I doubt they would add that,thats WAY too japanese eqsue for Skyrim,and I dont think of anyone in the world of Tamriel or lore have used that.

And off-topic but I was playing Morrowind and saw some Samurai looking armor,pretty sweet. I like how Elder Scrolls borrows a little bit of influence from different parts of the world in one game. Western,American,Viking,Asian,European,etc.

It brings alot of variety to the game and people from all over parts of the world can enjoy the game.


You have Tenchu Z?

LOVE THAT GAME! Trying to kill all the Tomikichi though....
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:33 am

Possibly, but if they are in I'd imagine that they're very rare because Skyrim is so far from Akavir. You might find one or two in a noble Nords' collection armoury or something like that?

But I think Nords prefer big heavy weapons to fine ones that require lots of finesse.


This.

I would think, being that Skyrim is based loosely on the Norse of Earth, that you'd mostly find Anglo-Saxon styled weapons. Some Elven types would be second-most-popular, with Akavirian weapons being the most rare due to distance as Magus Anima has stated.

I would hope, if they are as rare as I think that they will be, that any Akavirian weapons would do more base damage, but they wouldn't have to IMHO.
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Post » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:10 pm

You have Tenchu Z?

LOVE THAT GAME! Trying to kill all the Tomikichi though....

Hell yes,it is one of my all time favorite under-rated games.
Got more fun out of that game then Halo and Blackops combined.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:40 am

Hell yes,it is one of my all time favorite under-rated games.
Got more fun out of that game then Halo and Blackops combined.


What console do you play it on?

Sorry for being off topic but I rarely see people play this.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:05 am

That is complete BS, superior forging? The Celts were folding their metal 2 millennia earlier! The Japanese never experimented, they just stuck with a crappy sword. European Blacksmiths were constantly experimenting and improving their swords and their swords were superior in many ways.


the design is not crappy. you can't even compare a katana to another european sword other than its metal and it has a hilt. the design never changed because it never had to. just because a katana is smaller in appearance to a european sword doesn't make it worse than one. i bet if you placed a high quality low alloy katan on a scale and a high quality european sword of same length they would way near the same. this is because of the density of a katana. also bear in mind that european swords were designed with the fact that an adversary would be wearing plate armor and would be heavy. wheras an adversary of someone wielding a katana would be relying on speed and agility.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:03 am

What console do you play it on?

Sorry for being off topic but I rarely see people play this.

360,I still have my copy and I play it from time to time.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:41 am

360,I still have my copy and I play it from time to time.


Sweeeet!!! I play it on mine as well!
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:37 am

The more weapon types the better so I hope both are there.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:01 am

Possibly, but if they are in I'd imagine that they're very rare because Skyrim is so far from Akavir.

The katana's were used by the Blades, which have a headquarters in Skyrim.
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Post » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:29 pm

The katana's were used by the Blades, which have a headquarters in Skyrim.

The blades pretty much don't exist at this point either though, except for esbern.
Then again it's no implausible there are some still kickin around.
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Post » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:31 pm

the design is not crappy. you can't even compare a katana to another european sword other than its metal and it has a hilt. the design never changed because it never had to. just because a katana is smaller in appearance to a european sword doesn't make it worse than one. i bet if you placed a high quality low alloy katan on a scale and a high quality european sword of same length they would way near the same. this is because of the density of a katana. also bear in mind that european swords were designed with the fact that an adversary would be wearing plate armor and would be heavy. wheras an adversary of someone wielding a katana would be relying on speed and agility.


I know it's not just you man, but people need to stop getting off-topic. Clearly neither side is going to be dissuaded, it's just derailing a fairly simple thread. Just a point though: You're not doing yourself any favours by resorting to "please don't try to explain things you have absolutely no comprehension of", it just makes you come off as smug (and in my eyes wrong, as if you're winning an argument you let the facts speak for themselves).

Anyway, I would quite like them to be in the game. There's a plausible explanation for them being there Lore-wise and it would add some diversity to the weapons, something I always like seeing. Some tier-ing on them would be nice also, as later in the game they were nearly useless in Oblivion.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:35 am

The blades pretty much don't exist at this point either though, except for esbern.

Doesn't mean their headquarters won't have an unlooted armory.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:23 am

the design is not crappy. you can't even compare a katana to another european sword other than its metal and it has a hilt. the design never changed because it never had to. just because a katana is smaller in appearance to a european sword doesn't make it worse than one. i bet if you placed a high quality low alloy katan on a scale and a high quality european sword of same length they would way near the same. this is because of the density of a katana. also bear in mind that european swords were designed with the fact that an adversary would be wearing plate armor and would be heavy. wheras an adversary of someone wielding a katana would be relying on speed and agility.


False, the design is made for slashing and the type of slash that a Katana is capable of otherwise it's technique would leave you vulnerable to many attacks due to you having to slash downward. The agility concept is also false, it's like saying which is a myth that a knight can't pick himself up when knocked down from a horse. That is also false.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjT4JepA-Vc


This is like saying a Samurai can defeat a Knight because he has more agility, which is also False.


I know it's not just you man, but people need to stop getting off-topic. Clearly neither side is going to be dissuaded, it's just derailing a fairly simple thread. Just a point though: You're not doing yourself any favours by resorting to "please don't try to explain things you have absolutely no comprehension of", it just makes you come off as smug (and in my eyes wrong, as if you're winning an argument you let the facts speak for themselves).

Anyway, I would quite like them to be in the game. There's a plausible explanation for them being there Lore-wise and it would add some diversity to the weapons, something I always like seeing. Some tier-ing on them would be nice also, as later in the game they were nearly useless in Oblivion.


It's about facts not personal opinion.
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Post » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:29 pm

I'm sorry but are their people arguing AGAINST having more weapon variety.....

cause that would be stupid

no really, like DANG stupid.....

and yes Katanas and dai katanas have been in TES since MW so deal with it.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:33 am

It's about facts not personal opinion.


Then continue the argument in PM's and link each other to sources confirming your arguments, rather than derailing the thread.

I'm not going to mini-mod, so I'll step out at this point, I don't want to become part of this argument.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:17 am

There should be katanas, not because it's a realistically practical or impractical weapon, but because it's a weapon the Akavir races are known to use and they've occupied Skyrim in the past. There should be remnants of that, in addition to the Blades which also use them (even though they all but disappeared most likely). They also fit into the existing weapon classes (two handed swords) so won't require additional development time next to modeling and texturing the sword.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:01 am

Dude xElite,was there any reason to call that guy stupid? Or mock him? Its like asking for a ban...you just continue to pour gasoline into the flames.

The guy had a very good point too,I dont know why anyone would be against more weapon variety. Unless it includes a sniper rifle or something like that.

If Cutlasses come back,Im making a pirate this time :]
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:13 am

Dude xElite,was there any reason to call that guy stupid? Or mock him? Its like asking for a ban...you just continue to pour gasoline into the flames.

The guy had a very good point too,I dont know why anyone would be against more weapon variety. Unless it includes a sniper rifle or something like that.

If Cutlasses come back,Im making a pirate this time :]


That's call for a ban? Why don't you read his post then come back to me. It's obvious that he already posted before and haven't read through the thread, because he's blindly uninformative. Second why don't YOU read the thread yourself and see who is adding "Gasoline" to it. We already came to a conclusion as to where the Akaviri blade would be, why more people are adding lies I don't know.
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:53 am

That's call for a ban? Why don't you read his post then come back to me. It's obvious that he already posted before and haven't read through the thread, because he's blindly uninformative. Second why don't YOU read the thread yourself and see who is adding "Gasoline" to it. We already came to a conclusion as to where the Akaviri blade would be, why more people are adding lies I don't know.

-reads back and sees nothing since posts were deleted by mods-

Huh me? I see nothing :]
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:28 am

That's call for a ban? Why don't you read his post then come back to me. It's obvious that he already posted before and haven't read through the thread, because he's blindly uninformative. Second why don't YOU read the thread yourself and see who is adding "Gasoline" to it. We already came to a conclusion as to where the Akaviri blade would be, why more people are adding lies I don't know.

calm down -_-

you are adding gasoline to the fire
people will keep adding their opinions untill the thread is locked, dont complain about it, and dont say the disscusion is over yet

please take this to heart, i dont like people who are overly agressive/angry but i dont want to see someone get in trouble

this post, trying to keep you calm (for your benifit i might add), will only make you angryer, am i right?
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Post » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:19 am

I think it'd be GREAT to have Katanas in this game! They're so cool! I like curved blades!
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