Will skyrim have katana's / cutlesses? : V - Skyrim

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:16 am

you know what ninjas probably used? anything that was readily available. Including chopsticks. As I understand they didnt have the same degree of ceremony surrounding their tools. But who knows. Clearly if we know anything about ninjas they probably werent very good ninjas. We only know about the svckers.

I'm inclined to agree with you. If I were a ninja I'd pack lightly so almost everything I had would serve more than one purpose. My weapons would most likely be adapted from climbing tools, and on top of that be pretty cheap so that I wouldn't have to worry if I ever had to ditch my gear somewhere.

But hey, I'm not a ninja

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:08 pm

Man, I'd hope they wouldn't have a CutLESS. I would want a CutMORE, so I could get the job done.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:29 am

Like I said, the reason why it's there is because the developers don't know about it, it's a common mistake, by the ignorant? Your choice. Otherwise it would not. And again, why would you have an inferior sword when you have much better alternatives.

No, it's there because it's a staple trope of fantasy, just like doubleheaded axes, katanas and monks who fight with their fists. Bethesda will put their own spin on things, and nord culture will be more dominant, but there's no reason why those other things wouldn't be in the game,. especially from an in-universe historical standpoint.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:38 am

Man, I'd hope they wouldn't have a CutLESS. I would want a CutMORE, so I could get the job done.

Actually it's a cutLASS, which is even more disturbing.

But I like to call it a machete

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:22 am

I never said it would have a dominant influence, I was primarily stating that the whole lore of TES shouldn't be omitted just because the game takes place in Skyrim. I wasn't stating that Akaviri would have the dominant cultural impact on the region. The blades (users of the Akavir equipment) being in Skyrim is just an example of the artifacts existing there.

Sure. They can exist there, like I said but only in small areas, preferable South of Skyrim near the border of Cyrodiil. I am not disagreeing with the lore of TES, but usually in almost 98% of Stories the North region is the hardest to rule and have any other type of alien cultural influence.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:13 pm

I'm inclined to agree with you. If I were a ninja I'd pack lightly so almost everything I had would serve more than one purpose. My weapons would most likely be adapted from climbing tools, and on top of that be pretty cheap so that I wouldn't have to worry if I ever had to ditch my gear somewhere.

But hey, I'm not a ninja

Actually, that is a big part of it. You'd have a lot of ninjas skilled with fighting with, as previously mentioned, chopsticks, and in reference to what you said; climbing claws.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:19 am

~~Ninjas didn't use Katanas.~~ Damnit, I'm wrong! Apparently Ninjas did use the Katana, and the weapon I thought they used didn't exist. Damn you Deadliest Warrior, you lied to me!

Ninjatos? Yep, they didn't exist. I think they were just wakizashis.

If katanas appear, great. I they don't... I have no problem. We can suppose that there is at least a Blade Armor in the guy... as seen in the Teaser Trailer (possibly from Esbern?), so an Akaviri katana would be logical, I suppose. Also, I think to remember that the Akaviri were in Skyrim, once.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:56 am

Actually it's a cutLASS, which is even more disturbing.

But I like to call it a machete

I was making fun of the title, because he put cutlesses, instead of Cutlas. lol

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:53 am

nope, ninjatos were reacently created to go witht the image of the ninja... would i be mad if they included them in skyrim? hell no my ninja would have to have one.

i do hope katanas are included

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:34 pm

I'm inclined to agree with you. If I were a ninja I'd pack lightly so almost everything I had would serve more than one purpose. My weapons would most likely be adapted from climbing tools, and on top of that be pretty cheap so that I wouldn't have to worry if I ever had to ditch my gear somewhere.

But hey, I'm not a ninja

Actually "Ninjas" (Shinobis) would take any type of tool that was within him to assassinate their target. However, most Ninjas were not Assassins but Spies.

Real and Dangerous Assassins are Hashashins. They would use anything disposable, they would either poison you, or release venomous snakes on you. The only way they would fight is if you confront them, also dangerous since they would have robes which was hard to see their moves. There were really also skilled in Sword fighting since they would have hideouts and many other provinces which would let them train in secrecy.

No, it's there because it's a staple trope of fantasy, just like doubleheaded axes, katanas and monks who fight with their fists. Bethesda will put their own spin on things, and nord culture will be more dominant, but there's no reason why those other things wouldn't be in the game,. especially from an in-universe historical standpoint.

Not necessarily. It's still very unknown to people about the horn scenario.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:34 am

Let's stay focused here, we're talking about katana/cutlass; not ninjas.

Now, xElite, I'm intrigued on what you have to say about cutlasses.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:05 pm

OMFG I totally miss daedric dai-katana's, katanas, wakizashi's,tanto's etc from morrowind, steel dai-katana I hope they bring em back

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:08 am

...it's the race it was first shown it's the race you will be born as...

Pretty sure you have heard it a few times, but we can actually chose what race we play. And all races can be Dragonborn.
With the Akaviri influence on Tamriel and the fact that their swords are, based on books in OB(like http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Words_and_Philosophy), of the finest make I would be suprised if the Akaviri katana did not make it to Skyrim.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:14 am

Let's stay focused here, we're talking about katana/cutlass; not ninjas.

Now, xElite, I'm intrigued on what you have to say about cutlasses.

Don't also want to disappoint any Pirate fans here but the Cutlass was just a second alternative and a close quarter combat weapon when your firearm went kaput. It's good for slashing but that's it. I am really intrigued by the people who say they want to see pirates in here, they would also have to include powder and firearms.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:39 am

OMFG I totally miss daedric dai-katana's, katanas, wakizashi's,tanto's etc from morrowind, steel dai-katana I hope they bring em back

The belonged in Morrowind, as they were Dunmeri (and daedric) weapons. Not so much in Skyrim. Some katanas or wakizashis wouldn't harm, if you ask me. But the amount that you could find in Morrowind wouldn't fit.

If katanas are in... this would be the first time we could wield them properly, using both hands to hold one even if they are one handed weapons.

Don't also want to disappoint any Pirate fans here but the Cutlass was just a second alternative and a close quarter combat weapon when your firearm went kaput. It's good for slashing but that's it. I am really intrigued by the people who say they want to see pirates in here, they would also have to include powder and firearms.

Ehrmmm... pirates existed way before powder-based weapons. Vikings were some kind of pirates...

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:19 am

Katanas and Dai Katanas have been in every TES game since Daggerfall at least. There's absolutely no reason they would be omitted in Skyrim, none whatsoever.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:55 am

Pretty sure you have heard it a few times, but we can actually chose what race we play. And all races can be Dragonborn.
With the Akaviri influence on Tamriel and the fact that their swords are, based on books in OB(like http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Words_and_Philosophy), of the finest make I would be suprised if the Akaviri katana did not make it to Skyrim.

They have both invaded each other in the past with Tamriel being the last, if am not mistaken. So both influences can go around, so let's see, if Tamriel invaded Akavir knowing Tamriel makes better sword why Akavir would not switch? Of course an excuse would be to not have the same weapons as the enemy, but look at today. Also if there has been invaders why is Tamriel separated ala GoT with many different sides? If so again, the North would always have the strongest influence over themselves.

Katanas and Dai Katanas have been in every TES game since Daggerfall at least. There's absolutely no reason they would be omitted in Skyrim, none whatsoever.

Of course there would be, knowing Bethesda they want to please the fans instead of anything else.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:19 am

Of course there would be, knowing Bethesda they want to please the fans instead of anything else.

More like money first, fans second. Which is logical for companies.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:07 am

The belonged in Morrowind, as they were Dunmeri (and daedric) weapons. Not so much in Skyrim. Some katanas or wakizashis wouldn't harm, if you ask me. But the amount that you could find in Morrowind wouldn't fit.

If katanas are in... this would be the first time we could wield them properly, using both hands to hold one even if they are one handed weapons.

Ehrmmm... pirates existed way before powder-based weapons. Vikings were some kind of pirates...

I thought we were talking about the traditional pirates, not the committed act type of deal.

More like money first, fans second. Which is logical for companies.

Hah, you are right. I forgot it's the mentally of developers today.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:44 am

They have both invaded each other in the past with Tamriel being the last, if am not mistaken. So both influences can go around, so let's see, if Tamriel invaded Akavir knowing Tamriel makes better sword why Akavir would not switch? Of course an excuse would be to not have the same weapons as the enemy, but look at today. Also if there has been invaders why is Tamriel separated ala GoT with many different sides? If so again, the North would always have the strongest influence over themselves.

I'm saying that the Akaviri katanas are of very fine make and some groups of people would use them which equals that it will most likely be Akaviri katanas in Skyrim.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:37 am

Of course there would be, knowing Bethesda they want to please the fans instead of anything else.

So you're saying they will be in the game.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:05 am

Well a Katana was considered the perfect and ultimate sword. Thats why its design and shape and technique of being made has never changed for hundreds of years. Why change perfection?

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:07 am

More like money first, fans second. Which is logical for companies.

'Protect and serve' had become 'protect and serve the corporate interest'.

» Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:14 pm

Don't also want to disappoint any Pirate fans here but the Cutlass was just a second alternative and a close quarter combat weapon when your firearm went kaput. It's good for slashing but that's it. I am really intrigued by the people who say they want to see pirates in here, they would also have to include powder and firearms.

My father had a machete when I was a little kid. I chopped the hell out of everything with it. Even worse when we went camping.

» Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:33 am

I'm saying that the Akaviri katanas are of very fine make and some groups of people would use them which equals that it will most likely be Akaviri katanas in Skyrim.

So you're saying they will be in the game.

I believe I said this on previous post a page ago, yes there will. It makes sense since most people already have said there are some influences in Skyrim. But like I said, there would be influence South or East of Skyrim since it's where most of the influence comes from. Cyrodiil and Morrowind.

Well a Katana was considered the perfect and ultimate sword. Thats why its design and shape and technique of being made has never changed for hundreds of years. Why change perfection?

Actually false my friend. While the West experimented and made even better swords way before the Katana was even dreamed of being born, for some reason Japan stayed with their inferior ones.

Other Eastern countries on the other hand..

My father had a machete when I was a little kid. I chopped the hell out of everything with it. Even worse when we went camping.

That Sharp?! Ow.