You have to be 18 to view the ES site which is now apparently strictly a Skyrim site. So does this mean it will be M? Becasue it still says RP for the official rating. And if it is M will there be nudity? I am just wondering becasue there are many topics about how to cover certain parts of females, but if it is M why does it matter? Many M games have nudity.

Well Oblivion was rated T for a bit, then it was forced to be an M game. I believe the main reason that Oblivion was forced to do that was because you could mod in nudity.

I thought it was because of how bloody it was?

I think that was just a rumor actually; the nvde textures were all user-created, which is something that doesn't factor in to an ESRB rating. The real reason is because there was gore in oblivion (Arkved's Tower in particular) that slipped through the net.

On topic, we've already seen blood in a few screenshots, so yes it'll probably be rated M.

Partly because of both. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB_re-rating_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion

They would have to try hard to cater to a teen ESRB rating, so it's safe to say the game will be rated M for mature

Just because the game gets rated M doesn't mean it will have nudity. Sure, some M rated games have some degree of nudity, but many don't. Fallout 3 and New Vegas for example are both rated M, and for good reason, considering how gory they are, yet neither game contains any nudity, unless you use mods.

As to Skyrim, right now, the game has not been given an official rating, but I seem to recall in the podcast that Todd Howard said that Bethesda is not aiming for a particular rating, but they think that they game will probably be rated M. If it is, though, I'd say it will be for blood and gore and maybe sixual themes (Though not explicit.) not nudity.

Blood and alcohol will probably make it M. Maybe they'll introduce swearing in the game? I didn't think there was any in Oblivion, but it was in Fallout so I think it'll be in Skyrim too.

I'd also like to mention that in the Podcast, Todd was asked this question and he says that they don't really try to aim for a rating, they just make the content of the game on how Skyrim should be in that setting. Of course, it won't be as gory as Fallout (He even stated that in the Podcast.)

I don't think so, this isn't our world so they should have their own swears if they have any for their own culture.

Probably not, besides I would prefer the enemies in the game to insult like they did in Oblivion. "You fight like a pregnant cow!"

No doubt. I just read something on it and apparently you can stick your blade into someone if they're close enough and see it go through them.

I thought they changed the rating of oblivion due to the dark brotherhood questline? but yeah skyrim will be more than likely be M rated due to different things lik the new excutions (spelling?), gore, and prob a bit of language

I've seen quite a few T rated games with blood in them (Morrowind, for example.) and alcohol, for that matter (Morrowind has this once again.) so I wouldn't say the presence of blood automatically means an M rating, it depends on how much blood there is and how realistically it's handled. After all, Morrowind's blood was just a puff of red particles you'd see when you hit enemies, it didn't even stick to objects like in Oblivion.

But I doubt we'll see any swearing, it seems to be a pretty common trend in fantasy that real life swears will not be used, regardless of how much violence or six the work has. Obviously, there are exceptions, I seem to recall hearing some swearing in the Witcher, for example, but I doubt we'll here anything stronger than the language we heard in Oblivion.

They dont try and get an m rating it could pop out as teen but its very likely it will be m as there is a fair amount of gore.

The topless textures was acutely included on the disc, it's the skin texture used to display the skin under clothes, because some clothes like the gowns would display the underwear texture's sports bra they added a separate topless one, it was impossible to display without mods. However Bethesda did the crime of leave the nipbles on the texture so the ESRB looked into it again. This time they probably looked closer and played the dark brotherhood quest line and this and some other scenes changed the rating.

And yes I prefer the swearing in Oblivion, feels more natural actually that they call you mudcrab and uses TES gods.

I'm not entirely certain why Bethesda put nipbles on a texture intended to be used for displaying the skin under clothing, but yes, that's my understanding of what happened. Had it really been a fan-made nvde mod with entirely new models, it would not have caused any action on ESRB's part, as we can see from the fact that many games have gotten nvde mods without causing any change to their rating (Morrowind included.)

What I meant was the amount of blood. With all the new executions in Skyrim, I'm sure there will be a ton. Not as much as Fallout though. (Be nice to chop a dude's head off. )

My guess is that nipbles was added because they are pretty common, all ladies I have seen have them They might be useful aligning the texture to the model and to adjust the neckline.

A player made texture would probably not caused this reaction, but the dark brotherhood in it self was reason for increasing the rating and I agree it's not a quest line I would want kids to do.

Just to clarify, read-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion#Rating_change

At some point in the sewer, if you use Toggle Full control or something that'll let you get a view under the "floor", you can see what appears to be detailed briast and lower parts textures. If you'd like to verify this yourself, use the console to get the camera under the floor and follow the main escape route and you'll run into a flat wall of textures not to far from the underside of the floor.

In the game, the player will be able to preform "finishing" moves on enemies that would probably show a little more than Oblivion did......I think that alone would make the game harder to resist for the M rating

I imagine that it will be the same as Oblivion. Rated "M". I'd be kind've dissapointed if it wasn't

Theres alcohol and drugs, and hopefully a little locational stuff with finishing moves(decapitations or bleeds and stuff). I cant recall much sixual stuff in vanilla TES games, maybe an innuendo here or there but thats about it.

Well, there was the necrophilia reference in Oblivion.

And ERSB is such a joke anyway , didnt GTA3 get an R rating because you could HACK in a six minigame? Yeh theres mods like that for Oblivion now too, and I bet theres many other games you can hack and mod up for that kind of thing.

Honestly the fact that six is more disturbing to people than decapitation and extreme violence is just... I cant even think of a word to describe it. I think even touching on alcoholism and drug addiction is more an advlt subject than six.

I wasn't aware this was even in question. I mean, finishers guys. Finishers. If that alone wouldn't grant them a M rating I'm sure the alcohol, drugs, some language, (Tes uses our curse words in some cases) and I wouldn't be surprised to see some mild nudity in the creatures return.

Then there is what Todd Howard said on the Game Informer podcast:

38:33 Is there any particular ESRB rating that you guys are aiming for?

"We never aim for a specific rating. I'm sure it'll be M. But we never aim for a specific rating. I would be surprised if we did not get an M. Our assumption is we're getting an M, so we are doing the content that we think is appropriate for Skyrim. There is more violence to the combat just in how it looks. Not like Fallout violence where it gets really over the top. It's more a realistic level of violence for what it is with guys with swords and axes and those sorts of things."

Dude, I agree with you 100 percent. In Europe, they're so much more relaxed with six and all, but in America, we'd rather have blood and guts getting ripped out of your throat, and the second a tiny little nipble is exposed, ESRB screams, "A Rating NOWZ"

Todd has stated directly that they never aim for a psecific rating, they make the game and take the rating they get. besides, I'm 20n so I really don't care if it's rated 4+ or 18+