Will the 5th or 9th era ever be represented in game?

Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:21 pm

Do you think we will ever see the fith and or ninth era in the games, near or in far future installments or will kinmune and landfall always be something in the far future.
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Keeley Stevens
 
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:50 am

wait and see? we might see 5th but the 9th seems a bit far off
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Stephanie Nieves
 
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 3:12 pm

I don't think so. For the time being, I would expect any new TES media to take place in the 3rd century of the 4th Era, probably 10+ years after skyrim. They might extend into the 4th century, but not before we see either the mede Empire or the Dominion take a crippling hit.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 1:31 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see a game set in the Fifth Era, but it's probably a long way off. I also don't think that Kirkbride's Loveletter will necessarily be considered when Bethesda puts that together.

As for the Ninth Era, while a spin-off set in the very distant future is conceivable I doubt it would ever happen. If Bethesda wanted a more futuristic setting I suspect they'd create one of their own.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:20 pm

Yeah, as much as I like MK's future stuff, I'm not sure Bethesda will use it when the Fifth Era rolls around.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:40 pm

Or, his future may be based on material from their secret lexicon, which he helped plan.

We know Adamantine is an alien craft, and Pelinal's time suit assumed the identities of great men, to change history in mankind's favor. The eras are coeval with each other. Hence, Time as swirls and coiled serpent. A time traveler has only to slide between the Dragon's scales, as the Ragada learned.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:03 pm

Yeah, as much as I like MK's future stuff, I'm not sure Bethesda will use it when the Fifth Era rolls around.
As much as I dislike it this is probably what will happen, even though the loveletter would be great for a main quest as the the build up towards landfall and the return of vehk would be better than any main quest line Bethesda has come up with.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:46 pm

He-he-he, the adventures in, to say, Ninth Era could be not sequel, but prequel. Don't you think so?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 12:18 pm

I don't think developing will progress all the way to the Ninth Era, but maybe we could be time-wounded into the Ninth Era.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 2:12 pm

From what we've been told about the Landfall, it's something that will happen.

MK still has some influence over the lore, and his contributions do not go unnoticed by the present-day developers.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 4:00 pm

I've always read 9th era to mean "real far in the future," to the point that Tamriel isn't really Tamriel anymore. So no, I don't think we'll see it in game.

The 5th era is another matter. If Bethesda does incorporate the Landfall (which I think they will, given that they've already exploded Morrowind), we may very well see a 5th era. The question is if it will match the Loveletter.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 1:32 am

I sincerely hope not.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:01 pm

I just want to say, that face of God/Man in the Prometheus trailer reminded me of Reman... Skyrim is Ald Cyrod! Sky Haven's a fuggin space ship! Snakes have infected our bloodline! Game over, man!

Actually, a Prometheus/Mountains of Madness inspired expansion would make great use of that leftover Akavir and Dragon wars stuff.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:40 pm

5th, probably. 9th, doubtful, or so far in the real future that most of us will be either dead or too arthritic to effectively play video games so we'd have to watch it over the shoulders of our great-granchildren. Which is too bad for them, because I am a vicious backseat gamer.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 2:53 am

It's worth considering that the population at large sees the Elder Scrolls as a series of Tolken-Esque fantasy games. Setting an Elder Scrolls game in the 9th era with Hist dreadnoughts and such sounds like corporate suicide in that context.

EDIT: whenever I think of MK's description of the "Space Hist" of the ninth era, I can't help but think of http://www.savagechickens.com/2011/01/tree-astronaut.html :-)
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 12:24 pm

It's worth considering that the population at large sees the Elder Scrolls as a series of Tolken-Esque fantasy games. Setting an Elder Scrolls game in the 9th era with Hist dreadnoughts and such sounds like corporate suicide in that context.
'f they did it right now. But I expect that 200 years is and will always be the largest jump between games. They got lots of time to correct that misconception.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 7:45 pm

'f they did it right now. But I expect that 200 years is and will always be the largest jump between games. They got lots of time to correct that misconception.
But 200 years didn't change the setting. Skyrim is just as much a Tolkien-esque fantasy game as any of the other games ever were, if not more so. Most people don't even know that Skyrim takes place 200 years after the events of Oblivion, or if they do, they haven't the slightest grip on the implications of that fact.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:18 am

Morrowind was a Tolkien-esque fantasy game? Blasphemy!
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:14 pm

Maybe we will see a little glimpse of those eras through various odd events. As someone said we just need to slip between the Dragonscales and from there who knows.

or maybe Uncle Aka will pick up some interdimensional hitchhikers...

Let the Dragon ride again, on the winds of time...LOL
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 3:52 pm

But 200 years didn't change the setting. Skyrim is just as much a Tolkien-esque fantasy game as any of the other games ever were, if not more so. Most people don't even know that Skyrim takes place 200 years after the events of Oblivion, or if they do, they haven't the slightest grip on the implications of that fact.
Who is "most people," exactly? I smell Appeal to Anonymous Authority. Report to bridge for disciplinary action or I will fire upon you in majestic ways.

Abything with swords and elves in it could look Tolkienesque to someone who didn't know better, but I lack the time and more the patience to put up a survey and lack the impartiality not to phase it in a way that would in itself reveal the inherent differences from Tolkien's work.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:04 am

Would prefer it if "MK lore" remained exactly that. Not everybody likes the idea of mishmashing sci-fi and fantasy believe it or not.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 4:00 am

Would prefer it if "MK lore" remained exactly that. Not everybody likes the idea of mishmashing sci-fi and fantasy believe it or not.
Well good because there's no sci-fi in the obscure texts. Just a load of magic delivered dead straight, which is fantasy. Seriously, space=/=science fiction. "What if" scenarios based, even loosely, on actual science in ostensibly the real universe to form stories and settings=science fiction. Especially when space is a magic place that apparently has some form of breathable air etc etc. Last I looked spaceships weren't part of a tree-hive-mind or powered by solar sorceries of nazi elves as well.

EDIT: And further (where is my head today?) Doesn't matter what people prefer. I'd prefer if all of it was in the foreground. Instead most of it is in the background and some of it is waiting in the wings. Whoop dee doo. I don't write it, so it's not my decision.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 1:35 pm

Who is "most people," exactly? I smell Appeal to Anonymous Authority. Report to bridge for disciplinary action or I will fire upon you in majestic ways.
:-)

"Most people" in this context refers to Your Average Player ™, who doesn't indulge himself/herself in the lore of the Elder Scrolls and makes little note of the very real distinctions between The Elder Scrolls and other (largely Tolkien-inspired) fantasy media that you and I so very much appreciate.

Your Average Player (aka YAP) doesn't buy games like The Elder Scrolls to fly through space with magic and taste the truly unique visions that blossom from the minds of people like our very own Michael Kirkbride. YAP buys The Elder Scrolls games so that he can create some busty dark elves and hack away at dragons and goblins.

Seriously, space=/=science fiction.
Regardless, space is what most people (yes, I'm using that term again) think of when they think of Science Fiction. That said, I stand by the notion that if Bethesda attempted to create an Elder Scrolls game set far into Nirn's future, the move would prove to be a rather unpopular one. :-)
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:21 pm

I'd argue that YAP buys games not because of setting but because of gameplay. Dragons help, but the next Fallout will likely sell just as well.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 3:22 am


:-)

"Most people" in this context refers to Your Average Player ™, who doesn't indulge himself/herself in the lore of the Elder Scrolls and makes little note of the very real distinctions between The Elder Scrolls and other (largely Tolkien-inspired) fantasy media that you and I so very much appreciate.

Your Average Player (aka YAP) doesn't buy games like The Elder Scrolls to fly through space with magic and taste the truly unique visions that blossom from the minds of people like our very own Michael Kirkbride. YAP buys The Elder Scrolls games so that he can create some busty dark elves and hack away at dragons and goblins.


Regardless, space is what most people (yes, I'm using that term again) think of when they think of Science Fiction. That said, I stand by the notion that if Bethesda attempted to create an Elder Scrolls game set far into Nirn's future, the move would prove to be a rather unpopular one. :-)

The way you put it, I want to ban that unspeakable majority from touching anything even vaguely genuine or inspiring. Ever.
Perhaps Beth would like to consider launching a lore-free casual cash-cow title so Fallout and TES could remain as aristocratic as possible. There's certainly not much art/concept-driven games that could boast a large budget. Beth has a chance for making a blast: attract haughty thinking folk instead of your average joe.
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