I liked the idea of the robot army. Seemed like a nice refreshing new faction. :shrug:

The Calculator is confirmed to have clashed with the Warrior, that implies that the Calculator's Army was threatening the wastes.

Furry Deathclaws. First the Devs of Tactics got the idea form the Devs of FO1. They wanted them in Fallout as a sub species of deathclaw but the graphics would not show it. Also what is wrong with a sub species of Deathclaw? There are many types of Radscorpions. They are about as smart as dogs an only some can talk.

Giant Robots, Behemoth Robots. What is wrong with that? Robots can be made in any shape and form. They were made special for Vault Zero. Why did the Robots change from FO2 style to FO3/NV style? Behemoth Super Mutants now thats just wrong IMO.

"High-Level Events" would mean the Calculator being the highest level event in Tactics.

Well... I didn't mean "nice" as in "kind."

I meant "nice" as in "refreshing".

Umm, it took Lewis and Clark 2 years to reach the Pacific from Illinois...and they didn't have a lil thing called roads, which even if in horrible shape, is heck of a lot easier to walk along than no roads what so ever. Not to mention, Lewis and Clark didn't have a map, which, war or no, prolly not too hard to find, either in a pre-war gas station, rest stop, or working computer. Lewis and Clark also held up in winter time staying put, so they weren't traveling for say at least 3 or 4 months of those two years.

What?! What are you talking about?! Zeppelins are awesome! In fact I've got a T-shirt on right now with a zeppelin on, and it's my favourite T-shirt! I've always liked zeppelins, first for the way they look, second because they are really old flying machines that you don't really use today because they're so dangerous, third because it does kinda feel Fallout somehow with them being old technology before the 50's and not that advanced to do (and the fact that the elders did seem like they wanted them to crash, judging from around 2:45 in the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFV1QvnLVsM, so they just had to build them poorly and send them away)


The BoS haven't used airships since due to the reason I gave - the elders wanted to get rid of the people that wanted the BoS to recruit outsiders, so they sent them away knowing that there's a huge chance they will crash in a storm.
And I do think that the NCR are using pre-war trucks aswell, there are alot of them with crates that seem to be NCR supplies. It's just that the engine can't handle the NCR actually moving the cars around. Same with NCR not riding horses, yet they do in All Roads (haven't read it though since I didn't pre-order). I don't want to say that the horses were a mistake. I'd think horses would fit in the universe, and especially fit the NCR because I think of WW1 when I see them, and they used a lot of horses in WW1.

Btw, was it ever said in Tactics what fuel the cars used? They could have nuclear engines for all we know. We don't know how they would look or sound like since there has never been such cars in reality (except for prototypes, no?) Anyways, I liked the look the vehicles had, that they had taken some beatings and were worn-out, but they still looked a bit too modern, I'd like to have the 50's style back in drivable vehicles somehow in Fallout 4, but slap some Mad Max on that and we're cool.


Did Lewis and Clark drag an army of people in really heavy army behind them? Did they have to fight giant mutated animals and deathclaws, raider gangs and slaver? Did they have to put up with the giant radioactive tornadoes (I still think they exist)?

I was going off this quote from the wiki:

"■Appearance of fossil fuel powered vehicles, as indicated by the SFX of a gas powered engine and a gas station stocked with fuel. Also, numerous fuel drums in-game, including a raider base with large storage tanks of fuel. This contradicts the entire storyline, in which nearly all sources of oil in the world were depleted, as well as stylization."

I also had some issues with the "modern style" of tactics rather than the "Retro Futuristic" style. Didn't like that Rock music was used in the opening movie either, didn't seem to fit with Fallout.

But these are all minor issues.

I'm sure BoS had pack brahmin, cart, trailers, etc to haul gear.

I think most raiders would tend to avoid an army with power armor and energy weapons.

While. There are dangers, there are also bound to be many friendly settlements of wastelanders who can warn of dangers in the area, etc, so many things could possibly be avoided.

Again..they had roads...and two years, and knew where they were going. If a trained army can't do it, I have no idea how settlers of the west did it, with none of those things.

Also, I think the tornadoes were a Texas thing, if you referring to FO2 comments by umm Cassidy? They could get east totally avoiding Texas.

I liked the rock music. Maybe it didn't fit the Fallout theme, but it fit the theme of the intro of driving a car recklessly It's atleast better than metal, like in F:BoS (not dissing metal though)
And yeah, much in Tactics kinda says they are using fossil fuels, and that's a little contradictory.

But they are all minor issues as you said, nothing that messes up Fallout story.

I get they can do it in two years but we were not told what way they took. What they encountered other then The Pitt. So why do we need to know where they build the Airships in Tactics?

Off Topic: Lewis and Clark would have been screwed if they did not get help from Sacajawea. Lyons would have come acrossMutations and a nuclear blasted America.. Again not saying Lyons could not have done it in two years just we have no information. At least with Tactics we got the story of why they built the ships, who was sent and why it crashed. FO3 was "well we here rumors of super mutants way out in DC over 3000 miles away and DC is there. I know we don't give a rats butt about rebuilding America but check it out, might be some tech. Oh and take the last Maxson with you."

I don't recall anywhere in the Game that says the Vehicles run on fossil fuels. The people that added it to Wiki because they see the "oil drums" all over. Like I said in another post. Oil Drums can have Bio-Oil in them. Most of the Drums have radioactive waste in them. FO2 has alot of "Oil Drums" full of Radioactive waste, but they arn't called oil drums, they arn't called anything. Devs of Tactics could have thought of something else to call them but come on, it looks like an oil drum so why not call it that?

Fallout 2 we need to get fuel for the Tanker and the Boomers have fuel for their bomber. So does that make Fallout 2 and New Vegas none Canon or semi canon? Every Fallout has "inconsistencies." Fallout was going the way of Vehicles. Look at Van Buren it was to have alot of vehicles.

The Music may not fit but does not make the game semi-canon and the things look retro-50s to me. Thing is Fallout and Fallout 2 were not that big on the 1950s thing, it was in the back ground (The before time), were as FO3 and NV its shoved down our throats. Fallout 3 has androids so advanced they think they are people, they bleed, grow hair and have BO.

Offtopic: Bethesda really should ditch the androids...

Offtopic: I agree but its not going to happen.

On topic: If Fallout 3 (possibly FO4) can have androids that are so human like, why can't Fallout Tactics have Robots that are not bulky 1950s style Robots? They still look retro to me. Bethesda is being hypocritical when it comes to how things look in Tactics because they changed how alot of things look in Fallout 3: Mole Rats, Power Armour, Robots, Vaults and their androids. The 50s look was not so prevalent in the originals.

Anyways it all goes back to every fallout having "inconsistencies." How something looks does not break canon or make it semi-canon.

I do feel that some of the Tactics robots look a bit to futuristic, a bit too Star Wars Some of them look nice, though. Like how the http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080117152703/fallout/images/3/33/Tank_Track_Bot_FoT.jpg looks like those http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4292646479_1f4e392708.jpg.

And I don't think Fallout 3's change of mole rats was bad since http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090708174013/fallout/images/3/3c/Mole_rat_FO3.png in Fallout 3 looks closer to a http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/PhotoGallery/AfricanSavanna/photos/20020227-4427nmr.jpg imo, rather than how it looked like in http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090821181941/fallout/images/e/e4/Fo_Render_Molerat.png.

Mole Rats are not really mole rats. They were created in a lab, still I am not calling foul here. So what if the Robots look different in Tactics? Fallout 3 (maybe FO4) has androids that think they are Human! It is an inconsistency of how they look in Tactics but its not canon breaking. Bethesda can make some changes. They changed Mr.Handys and Sentry Bots.

Honestly I had a really hard time getting into tactics. I always got owned, I would forget to save.. Then I would start all over
Sure, its self induced. Still pissed me off.


But on the topic of the Robot? The camera and sensor module thing was purely meant for another thing for the player to get caps from worthless items. Like the Super Mutant blood?

And to the OP
I think it will, whether or not it fits canon. Why? Because noobs love big suits of metal! :gun:

............or because some people like interesting new factions that could bring some fresh material to the story....I don't find the MWBOS interesting because they "GOTZ BIG SUITS" I am interested in them and the idea of seeing them again becuase of the story behind them and their unqiue way of doing things. I also want to see what became of them following tactics.

But they are canon. Fans my be a little upset but the MWBoS, they have power armour but not everyone of them is given power armour. They do have alot of awesome fire power :gun:

Well Lieutenant I have to say, although Bethesda likes to keep their customers happy. You know the ad's for Fallout 4 are going to involved Power Armor, Laser Rifles, and otherwise some new cool thing to attract WoW players to the next K00L game.

I loved the intro! Only makes me wonder why the hell I didn't play it in the first place. I was looking up BoS on youtube years ago after playing FO3 and I saw the Tactics intro and I was like, there is no way that is real tactics is not FO3 so its not fallout, boy I felt like a [censored] afterwards :facepalm:

ONTOPIC: I hope they return, probably my favorite fallout game, besides 3 was Tactics. Giant robots (NOT L.P... NEVER L.P.!!!!! <_< ), Brotherhood of Steel, tanks, humvees, good story, beast cutscenes, fallout-related... a game doesn't get any better than that.

right but thats because (sadly) thats what captures the attention of the modern day gamer and what attracts customers. Bethesda is in this to make money after all.

But its not like people only want to see the MWBOS so we can "getz more armorz".

No, but they will always have the BoS. Fallout 3 players will be pissed if there isn't. I mean seriously, they revolved Fallout 3 around them, can't walk away now.

I want to see them because I want to know what happened to them in the 80 years since the events of Tactics. What caused their fall, if there really was a fall :shifty:

Or, maybe they killed by Enclave..... bahahahahahahahahaha.

I can see intro to FO4 now... squad of BoS walking around ruins of Chicago as their bodies are cut in two. Pan out to Enclave soldier holding sparkly new Gauss MG.

Fun

That does sound pretty awesome (evlbastrd's cutscene).

I'd like to see them in a war with the Mutant Liberation Army (I don't recall whether the MWBoS or the MLA winning is canon but I'd want to see it with the MWBoS winning). It'd be awesome with Chicago sarting to rebuild itself and the tribes have become more liked gangs (with mainly small weapons) and have constant faction wars. Maybe your character can be the Mobster or something like that.

I had an idea a while back where the northeastern gangs were the richiest and the southeastern gangs were the poorest, and the city had run out of radaway so when somebody started to become a ghoul they were through into the completely destroyed western half, that has now formed it's own gang.

They could have the MW have bunkers just south of the city and MLA south and east of that. Badass.