Will the only type of dragons be Wyverns?

Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:02 pm

For Daggerfall that is Peryite in the first pic, not a real dragon

Heh.. you tell 'im.

Akatosh is two legged, so dragons in TES are two legged.

There you have it.

But the mention of Peryite and his obvious dragon-ness makes me wonder what, if any, relationship he may have to Alduin/Akatosh.
I wondered as well, about Peryite's relationship with Jyggalag, since there seems to be significant overlap in their respective purviews of 'order'.
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:03 am

OP have you ever watched .... nevermind I forget its name.

but the dragon in TES are not wyverns.

there is a style of dragon that has its forlegs attached to its wings.
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:17 pm

some sea monster type "dragons" would be cool
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:11 am

some sea monster type "dragons" would be cool


What like http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv142/hateffect90/Gyarados.png and http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/a/a6/Dragonite_149.jpg? :hehe:
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:27 am

What like http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv142/hateffect90/Gyarados.png and http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/a/a6/Dragonite_149.jpg? :hehe:

Dragonite isn't a water type and gyarados isn't a dragon type (he has dragon qualities though)

Hydra Kingdra and Palkia are what you should have posted.

... Did I just out myself... Yes I like mudkips...

Edit: sorry, I had goldeens on the brain...
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:11 pm

No it isn't. Skyrim dragons clearly have their wings attached to front legs, that's not a wyvern that's a four-legged dragon. As long as the dragon is a quatruped, it's a dragon no matter where the wings are located. A wyvern is a biped or legless (snake body).

Besides, Bethesda has said that they're dragons, so there's really no discussion. They are dragon, both by heraldic standards but most importantly by TES standards (which is all that matters).


First off, yes, they're both "dragons". Hurray. No one cares.

The point of the OP: A Wyvern-type dragon has 2 legs, and 2 wings. Just like the Skyrim trailer dragon. http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Elder-Scrolls-5-Skyrim-Trailer-Screenshot-Dragon-Bite.jpg A European-type dragon has 4 legs, with 2 wings on its back. Just like Dragonheart dragons. http://images2.fanpop.com/images/polls/309000/309366_1254921657623_full.jpg It's that simple. What you said is just wrong.

The possibiltiy of us seeing non-wyvern like dragons in Skyrim is almost zero, so don't even worry about it. What is more important to wonder about is the different variants of the same TES-style dragons with different colors, magic abilities, and hopefully different voices.
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:44 pm

i guess it would be cool to see a sea dragon or monster
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:16 pm

The point of the OP: A Wyvern-type dragon has 2 legs, and 2 wings. Just like the Skyrim trailer dragon. http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Elder-Scrolls-5-Skyrim-Trailer-Screenshot-Dragon-Bite.jpg A European-type dragon has 4 legs, with 2 wings on its back. Just like Dragonheart dragons. http://images2.fanpop.com/images/polls/309000/309366_1254921657623_full.jpg It's that simple. What you said is just wrong.


That's not only an oversimplification of the characteristics of a Wyvern, but those characteristics aren't even accurately depicted by the dragon in the trailer. Firstly, a Wyvern is supposed to have 2 wings, 2 legs, be bipedal (walk like a bird), and have a barbed tail (usually poisonous). The dragon in the trailer is quadrupedal, meaning it has 4 legs, 2 of which double as wings. It does not have a barbed tail, definitely not a poisonous one. Also, it breathes fire, which is a trait rarely given to even Wyverns who fit the general description. Considering European dragons have 4 legs AND 2 wings separately it cannot be that either.

The major relevant contemporary distinction between European dragons and Wyvern is general presence. European dragons are meant to be human in a sense, having great intelligence and human motivations. Wyvern are meant to be animalistic, they lack intelligence and live a live of low motivations. If Skyrim dragons have a language and culture it would seem that they are meant to be closer to European dragons in all but form.

This is a Pseudo-Wyvern: Essentially a mix between the European dragon, Wyvern, and real animals. I borrowed the term from non-official sources, but it fits the bill. Skyrim dragons are not a wholly uncommon depiction of dragons, but they most definitely cannot be considered to be true Wyverns or true European dragons.
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:43 pm

Wings are limbs.Surely you get that.

Yes and all apples are fruit. Doesn't mean that all fruit are apples. What's your point? Dragons are four-legged, regardless of how many limbs they have. Wyverns have two legs or no legs at all, regardless of their number of limbs.


First off, yes, they're both "dragons". Hurray. No one cares.

Then why do you?


The point of the OP: A Wyvern-type dragon has 2 legs, and 2 wings. Just like the Skyrim trailer dragon. http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Elder-Scrolls-5-Skyrim-Trailer-Screenshot-Dragon-Bite.jpg A European-type dragon has 4 legs, with 2 wings on its back. Just like Dragonheart dragons. http://images2.fanpop.com/images/polls/309000/309366_1254921657623_full.jpg It's that simple. What you said is just wrong.

Yeah because Hollywood and the gaming industry is way more accurate than 500+ year old mythology across multiple cultures... :facepalm:


The possibiltiy of us seeing non-wyvern like dragons in Skyrim is almost zero

http://images.wikia.com/dragons/images/e/e3/Wyvern-1.jpg
http://new.bestiary.us/files/images/wyvern-large.jpg
http://www.petpeoplesplace.com/petstore/pet-image-large/oop-citadel-warhammer-marauder-chaos-orc-war-wyvern_310307437748.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wyvern

I rest my case. Skyrim dragons have front legs. Wyverns don't. Besides, we don't get to define the Skyrim dragons as either, because we're not living on Nirn. I'm pretty sure that Nirnians, represented by Bethesda (who created them) know better than us.


What is more important to wonder about is the different variants of the same TES-style dragons with different colors, magic abilities, and hopefully different voices.

Ofc and I agree that there should be different types. As of yet, they've already confirmed at least two different dragons - red and black. I personally hope we'll see more than just that difference though, e.g. a return of the Dragonlings from Daggerfall.
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:50 pm

As much as I prefer the four-legged variety of dragon, when I see them, I automatically think of something more like Draco from Dragonheart, or Spyro. That's not a kind of dragon I'd enjoy having to kill all the time.

I'd happily kill wyverns, and if I had to I suppose I'd kill my four-legged dragons, but I'd much rather not.

Which is a long-winded way of saying, I don't care, because either way, I get something I want. :laugh:
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:28 pm

i dont remember exactly where i heard it but i think todd said that there will be different dragons (is hoping for something shadow of the collosus worthy in size)
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:52 pm

wyverns arnt dragons though, so the fact that they are dragons mean they arn't wyverns, and cant all wyverns do is poison, not actually breathe fire
also I honestly doubt there will be extremely varying models, becuase that would me a monumental amount of work, but there probably be ones with the same body, but varying style
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:51 pm

Yes and all apples are fruit. Doesn't mean that all fruit are apples. What's your point? Dragons are four-legged, regardless of how many limbs they have. Wyverns have two legs or no legs at all, regardless of their number of limbs.



Then why do you?



Yeah because Hollywood and the gaming industry is way more accurate than 500+ year old mythology across multiple cultures... :facepalm:



http://images.wikia.com/dragons/images/e/e3/Wyvern-1.jpg
http://new.bestiary.us/files/images/wyvern-large.jpg
http://www.petpeoplesplace.com/petstore/pet-image-large/oop-citadel-warhammer-marauder-chaos-orc-war-wyvern_310307437748.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wyvern

I rest my case. Skyrim dragons have front legs. Wyverns don't. Besides, we don't get to define the Skyrim dragons as either, because we're not living on Nirn. I'm pretty sure that Nirnians, represented by Bethesda (who created them) know better than us.



Ofc and I agree that there should be different types. As of yet, they've already confirmed at least two different dragons - red and black. I personally hope we'll see more than just that difference though, e.g. a return of the Dragonlings from Daggerfall.


Source for different colors please.
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:02 pm

Wyvern, dragon... the terminology is pointless and most likely interchangeable. There is no hard definition for how many appendages they should have. After all, these are mythological beasts from a wide range of cultures with many different names.

They said there will be more than one type of dragon, but there will probably be very little difference in outward appearance and behaviors. Just enough for us to be able to tell who's who in TES dragons. Different colors and possibly sizes and/or minor appearance differences as horns and such, but what we've already seen is pretty much what we're going to get, and if you ask me, it's awesome and I have no complaints!

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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:00 pm

Listen if Matthew McConaughey says they are dragons, they're dragons. :bowdown:
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Post » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:22 am

Maybe in the world of ES there is only one type of dragon adn that one type of dragon looks like the one in the trailer adn other vids.

It would be hard for them to make a whole ton of unique dragons. Would be cool, but cant be done...
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