new vegas has TONS of quest. but like someone said 'there's a difference being doing 100 errand boy quest and doing 5 memorable quest'

I always amazed with OB quest like the Bruma countess asking you to find out Akaviri artifacts or protect a family from warring goblin tribes or the quest find an imposter that accidentaly his twin separated from birth and it continued to a larger plot and reveal their past.

and in F3, there's a quest find a missing android that gives me 'WHAT THE HECK? THE GUY I ALWAYS TALKED TO AND SEEMINGLY NOT INVOLVED IS THE KEY TO THIS QUEST?' feeling. or help an old lady find her 'pass on generations to generations' violin. and the reward is great and satisfying.

With all the arguments about Fallout and New Vegas and what was better people do seam to miss the potential opportunity - who sad that we have to have either/or situation?
There are mod projects in two previous games that expand the world, adding more lands, so wouldn't it be awesome to have a professionally made expansion like that?
Skyrim has a joined border with both Hammerfell and High Rock http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/Sshodan/mappagigante.jpg , both provinces are already made in some Beth game or another, and are unlikely to be re visited soon, so why not let another company to make one of them for Skyrim? This way we get an additional expansion pack. And I don't know about you, but I always want additional expansion packs

Obsidian were the original creators of fallout that's why they were allowed to. NV was completely outdated. the only reason it had better stuff than fallout 3 was because it basically was fallout 3 just added things to it. The capital wasteland design is SO much better than the Mojave desert. Fallout 3 actually felt ****ed up. Having an atmosphere that successfully captured the tone of fallout. Fallout NV just seemed like an old western game but emptier and with more technology. Not to mention the main quest in fallout NV was terrible. it was basically a bunch of side quests that lead up to some big fight. I could keep rambling on but i think i made my point.

Exactly. And its like a really big expansion pack, bit just a couple of hours of DLC.

The funny thing is, I'm seeing people who say they w3ant to wait on Skyrim because they think Bethesda was behind New Vegas, which was horrifically buggy, I'm told.

maybe you did it without read the backstory. some of them are amazing, or hilarious, or stupid, or terrifying.

remember the akaviri artifact quest from Bruma countess? if you read the log and diary, it was actually sad.

or sheogorath shrine's quest? it was very hilarious to see. even the reward is hilarious.

I doubt we would ever see a numbered title from an outside company but I won't mind something like Battlespire or Redguard as a stand-alone adventure. The Infernal City book proved to me that an "outsider" can still create a great story set in the Elder Scrolls universe.

So now the tired old Fallout 3 vs New Vegas debate has made it's way to the Skyrim forum. Nice.

New Vegas was WAY better then Fallout 3 in almost every way. I've looked it up, Fallout 3 has less then 30 quests. 30! Talk about a craptastic game. New Vegas on the other hand has everything that made Fallout 3 good with over 150 quests! Honestly Fallout 3 doesn't even compare.

On to the main topic: Although there maybe a new game developer that will use the Creation engine as an engine to make their games. I highly doubt that Bethesda would give away TES series. And I don't even know why you would think what you said before you even have played Skyrim.

Nah. Obsidian didnt develop fallout originally. I agree that they essentially took what was in fallout 3 and added stuff, but a lot of that was good stuff. Reputation. hardcoe mode. Factions. You had a real impact and choice over the ending too, with a diverse set of quests leading to that point. It felt less linear to me, but I guess each to their own.

A lot of you guys are just trying to hate on New Vegas- which is absolutely not the point of this thread.

OP stated "another version" of TESV which could be a sort of spinoff/addon style title. Like NV was to Fallout 3.
There IS in fact a company that could be pretty good at doing that sort of thing: Big Huge Games, since they have Ken Rolston and are currently working on an RPG..
maybe if Reckoning turns out to be good.. they could do something?

But I guess that comes out in 2012 and by then, they would have little time delivering an ElderScrolls spinoff in time.

Oh and by the way: Fallout New Vegas was a good game. It even did a few things waaay better than Fallout 3. Anybody who calls it "worst evaar" or whatever is an obvious troll
or hasn′t played any real bad/buggy games.

why not useing a ready engine and make an other RPG? I would preffer some fantasy classical RPG which have nothing to do with elder scrolls. like they used the oblivion engine for fallout 3.

I would love to see another developers take on TES especially after how good F:NV was. I love both Fallout 3 and New Vegas although I sold FO3 a while ago because I finished everything within 2 weeks (including the brilliant DLCs which F:NV didn't seem to have) and it was lying around gathering dust. the experience when I played it was great and New Vegas improved on it in so many ways. Although F03 was a lot more far fetched, (in a good way) F:NV quests are a lot more fun and numerous. :celebration:

Basically:

TES game by Beth = :goodjob: :goodjob:

TES game by Obsidian = :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:

Haha. What? :mellow:

I am just worried about the quality and quantity of quests and activities. In the previous Beth games that I already mentioned those decreased in favor of graphics, which is a minus from my point of view. The creators of New Vegas did a good job IMO, a complete and alive game.

Exactly. That's the case with Nehrim, it's a total conversion, a fresh new game based on Oblivion's tools. It's kinda cool to have a very different experience and still quite familiar.

like someone's quote in another forum, "there's a difference of doing 100 errand boy quest and doing 5 memorable quest"
NV is not a bad game. I rated it 'fair to good game'. But Obsidian just didn't used to with 'open world RPG'.
they "forced" you to move to some certain path and direction, with not-a-joke warning sign and invisible walls at a climbable hills.

BTT: nah, Beth won't give TES series to other hands. It's their gem.

Oh, I didn't rush. Tried to take on all it had to offer, actually. It was pretty much the same case with Fallout 3. After the initial impact the whole thing just dried out. I dunno, both had their uppers too, but the whole was not all that good.