Vampires were always of tremendous interest to the gaming community. Yet, they were always somewhat underdeveloped. I have not seen any vampire pics from Skyrim, yet there we have a very unique vampire faction according to the TES lore. Vampires are natural enemies of dragons. Will we see powerful and cool vampires, or they will be shown as cave dwelling thugs again?

I'd rather see vampires dropped and have werecritters take center stage in this one. Although if there's established lore about vampires fighting dragons perhaps they would make a good fit.

Here's how i feel: If they also add Lycanothrope, I'm gonna be happy.

Vampires in every game they have been in have been well developed. The ones in Oblivion were well developed as well, so I don't follow you with the "they were underdeveloped" talk. However, I'd like to see Lycanthropy in the base game for the first time since Daggerfall and I'd like to see you being able to be different types of vampires with different factions in Skyrim as well. In Oblivion, they didn't need different factions because there were no other factions in Cyrodiil as the ones in Cyrodiil beat out all the other competitors by making a pact with Clavicus Vile to be able to walk around in the day, so they could assimilate into society. In Skyrim, there are multiple clans again and one of them is the Volkihar, which if we only can have one type of vampire, then I want it to be the Volkihar lol.

Why would you see vampires dropped? I always enjoy vampires as creatures with some mystery and class.

Vampires I hope are in Skyrim and I'm also hoping that they are improved both Look wise (Not on a twilight level just something better looking then what they were in Oblivion) and that the bugs from Oblivion with Vampires are fixed for Skyrim. The Latter will probably be fixed but it's still in the back of my mind.

It would be interesting for a werewolf like race added into the mix although....

I thought that was ninjas.

I don't really enjoy this style of conversation. But ... I disagree. Vampires in Oblivion were not developed: 1. pictured as mindless thugs; 2. were being controversial as the less they feed, the more powerful they were; 3. No factions, no blending with humans (as according to the lore); 4. Breathing like living under water, and so on and so forth.

PS. Well, to be correct some blending with humans was shown in Oblivion, but not the one described in books, where Imperial vampires were not distinguishable from humans.

If Bethesda has to choose between vampires and werecritters I'd prefer the latter. Personally when I think of "vampire" I want a Count Orlock-styled monster, I find these nancy pancy Victorians blander than white bread. Now I do understand that they're liked by many and I don't have and objections to including vampires in TES V, but if Bethesda has to choose between these two transformations, perhaps preferring to do one and focus twice the resources on it (as they did with TES III and TES IV), I'd rather they do werebears or werewolves.

I have to agree Vampires weren't that well developed in Oblivion heck they had more stuff to do in Morrowind. Not to mention the bugs that they had in Oblivion.

Count Hasselhoff Hassildor
Jakben Imbel
Seridur

No factions, true, which is a disappointment. Your other two points are lore related. Elder Scrolls vampires are not the same as normal vampires.

Part of their blending has to do with their feeding, and how when they feed they appear normal. Your character doesn't, which is a bug more than anything.

Three selective vampires do not really prove the point. They are quest items, so are completely different. All the rest were just thugs with vampire dust in their inventory.

Does it take that much imagination to assume that, if three vampires can masquerade in pretty high profile parts of society, there are other vampires in the game world as well? They don't necessarily have to be actual NPCs. I imagine there's more than twenty NPCs living in the Imperial City, but due to game limitations they can't put the thousands that would normally live in a city. If Bethesda had placed more than a handful of vampires throughout the game, it would look ridiculous. They're sneaky, they're not overpopulated.

The fact that there ARE vampire NPCs who are masquerading, and the fact that there ARE quests in the game that not only feature these NPCs but also feature as a distinct part of their character the very act of masquerading, DOES prove that they are developed. Less than you'd like? Sure. But if these guys are meant to be masters of illusion and deception, I don't want to be bumping into them, fangs bared, every night.

Becoming a vampire and curing vampirism is super glitchy and quite unstable. When I tried to go cure myself of porphric hemophilia, the game started messing up horribly. The Count Janus Hassildor still owes some moola D:

I got to say I like the effects of becoming a vampire beside the "monkey" face.

Vampires are overrated. I suppose they do make good fodder, though.

i hope they make a well balanced system a kin to morrowinds. with factions, balanced +/- some related perks to help define what kind of vamp you are, after becoming so strong you can make thawls and children. stuff like that would add a huge amount of depth to it.

lycans could be similar with the balanced +/- and perk system. also you could potentially spread the curse to those you wound.

The only complaints I had about Oblivion's is the wonky power-ups and the ugly faces. I'd also like to see some way to resist sun damage, like with thick coverings; perhaps reduced to sun weakness instead of damage.

Ugliness will likely not be a problem in Skyrim, judging by that Nord. <3

Yes...Given the climes and connections to 'Bloodmoon', I would love to see werewolves come back into play...But given the great back-story in TES for vampires...I would also like to see them in Skyrim as well...

He's got you there, arrow.

Vampires in Oblivion were not portrayed as lore suggests. The vampires of Cyrodiil as "Immortal Blood" and "Manifesto Cyrodiil Vampyrum" has them portrayed as a deadly competitive order of vampires who influences politicians and nobles and basically has alot of power, both materialistic and phisical. Of course, they are manipulative and most skilled in deception. They can walk in daylight if they feed and they can look exactly like other humans. But Oblivion messed up with a few things. Although I understand the backwards effect of the vampirism in Oblivion. Clavicus Vile has to do with it.

Also, when you become a vampire, the only ingame NPC who has 20+ dispotion towards the player is Janus Hassildor, a member of the Order. That's the only friendly vampire faction in the game. You and Janus. As much as I like them, I really want to see werewolves come back and be playable.

Yes, this is true. Jakben, Seridur and Janus are all vampires who have influence and power. But I think that there are numerous members of the Order hiding out in cities and such, maybe some even in the High Council!

Janus-Count of Skingrad(Sends player to wipe out barbaric vampires who made the Bloodcrust cavern ther abode. They breached Cyrodiil territory and he wants them dead)

Seridur-Leader of a vampire hunting faction(They hunt savage vampires. Makes sense for him to use people to kill the barbaric invaders)

Jakben-Masquerades as a noble. Has an unblemished history and mostly keeps to himself.

No, we are just talking about different things. Presence of Janus Hassildor in game does not show that the vampire system is developed in Oblivion. It is like with Oblivion face generator. You can create one good character yourself, if you spend enough time, but the whole game is ugly. Vampires are buggy, ugly, abilities are up side down, and so on. You realize it immediately, when you become a vampire yourself. But, otherwise, I have good imagination. I also want to play so it would be interesting. If you and Frodo think that vampires are cool in Oblivion, it is a matter of taste. I am not satisfied at all.

Okay here are some things I'd like added to Skyrim's vampires.

I'd like some factions/quests for vampires. I'd like it if you could wear a hood and not suffer sun damage constantly if you're only on the 2nd stage of vampirism (or even other stages). I'd like to be able to feed on enemies with whom I am fighting not just sleeping people (and maybe freshly killed corpses) or even as a sneak attack, to grab them from behind and feed on them. I would also like the perks of being a vampire not so lame like they were in oblivion.

That is pretty much all I can think of at the moment.

What I want: For the Order to make a return and for them to be portrayed better than in Oblivion. We know that they never originated from Cyrodiil, hell, we know little of their origins. And since Skyrim is a catastrophic final showdown in the timeline where the Empire is down, it makes sense for them to try and take over SKyrim by wiping out the rival vampire clan.