Theres going to be more variety of armour than Oblivion and polearms are in, both of which are good.
Sadly still no spears, crossbows or throwing weapons.

While Oblivion had only 6 types of weapons and armour, Iron, Steel, Dwarven etc.

Wow, im surprised someone hasn't come on and posted about how Oblivion had so much variety (I've seen it before, and its hard to convince them otherwise)

So, polearms are confirmed now? Do you have source? Please say yes!

I have to say, i really enjoyed just wandering through the lands of Morrowind, armed only with a wooden staff.
And considering the level of combat gameplay they have displayed in Skyrim previews, it would be most
impressive to watch.

I have seen nobody come up with a link or a source yet, they just say what they say.
I dont trust anybody yet

I have seen nobody come up with a link or a source yet, they just say what they say.
I dont trust anybody yet

I have to say, i really enjoyed just wandering through the lands of Morrowind, armed only with a wooden staff.
And considering the level of combat gameplay they have displayed in Skyrim previews, it would be most
impressive to watch.

I have seen nobody come up with a link or a source yet, they just say what they say.
I dont trust anybody yet

I mean, I have seen the concept art (the executioners axe looks more like a pole axe to me than a battle axe) but that doesn't mean polearms will definitely be in the game. I hope they do though. It would be a nice compromise for all us spear lovers!

Looks like I was being overoptimistic, sorry

I'd like to think they heard the never ending river of complaints from these forums about the lack of armor/weapon types and variations. I'm hopeful there will be more options.

Same, but i cant help feeling that Besthesda is arrogant, and will do what they think is "best" for us, rather than give in to what the players want.

I mean. What the hell? Why not just let us have spears, it's a weapon that perfectly fits these times!
Besides...if im gonna have a Dragon sweep in on me, i want a nice long spear to fend him off.

Its an effective weapon for a reason, so implement it into the game, how is that hard?

Ha...yeah the spear issue is confusing. I guess maybe the whole animation for using a spear is substantially different from swords/blunt weaponry. That said, I find it hard to believe it would take that much effort to but in a solid animation.

Though I don't think it comes from arrogance. I think it comes from the POV that they honestly believe they are trying to make the best TES they can, and use that as their guiding mantra.

You put the words right in my mouth.

Perhaps, but i think the spear could be partially treated as a polearm would in animation.
Its mostly a stabbing weapon, and would likely be used in one hand.

Not only that, but there would be different TYPES of spears, short spears and long spears. Etc.

Javelins would be interesting as well.....And while the animation may be a BIT annoying to put in, these guys have skill. I know they could do it without
too much difficulty

Did you guys see the laughable "spears" in the Fallout New Vegas add on Dead Money? You swing those spears around like an axe! WTH? Now, the throwing spears were pretty good minus the part about not being able to retrieve them and that they attach to your belt instead of on your back.

I.... don't know.

The lack of variety in weapons and armor was and is an oft-repeated criticism of Oblivion, and one can only hope that it didn't fall on deaf ears. My view on it (which I've expressed here before, so proactive apologies to those who have waded through it before) is that they not only need to add more straightforward variety - simply more choices - but they need to make the differences between the materials and the items more subtle. Beyond the simple lack of choices in Oblivion, the thing I dislike is that each material is exactly this much stronger, this much heavier and this much more durable than the previous one. It's just too rigid a progression. I want to see more things like there were in Morrowind, where, for instance, glass did nice damage and was actually quite a bit lighter than similar materials, but the trade-off was that it was quite a bit less durable and couldn't hold anything close to as powerful an enchantment. That made the choice of materials more complex and thus, to me at least, more satisfying. Instead of just moving up a ladder, I had to weigh costs and benefits and decide what was best for a particular character.

We can only hope.....

Actually didn't see this. F:NV was so glitchy and unplayable for me (lost 2 separate double-digit save games) that I swore off I'd ever play it again. I have to find a youtube clip of this.

Really? :blink: What platform do you play on? I never lost a save game but the glitches were pretty bad. Game crashes rampant, but I digress. Yes the "spears" in the afore mentioned Dead Money were terribly done.

360...might have had something to do with it. And one of the corrupted files happened after their big patch. :facepalm:

Anyway back on track: one would hope that with the new engine, they could figure out a way to make a jabbing mechanism. However, in past games, I wonder if the problem was hit detection. Who knows?

I am on 360 too for New Vegas.
I have heard a lot of people say that the problem with spears in Morrowind was that they were overpowered because of reach. The trick to making spears more balance is to somehow program the vulnerability of an enemy getting inside your spears range. In the real world, if an enemy gets in side a spearmans reach with a sword, it usually meant game over for the spearman.

I am on 360 too for New Vegas.
I have heard a lot of people say that the problem with spears in Morrowind was that they were overpowered because of reach. The trick to making spears more balance is to somehow program the vulnerability of an enemy getting inside your spears range. In the real world, if an enemy gets in side a spearmans reach with a sword, it usually meant game over for the spearman.

I am on 360 too for New Vegas.
I have heard a lot of people say that the problem with spears in Morrowind was that they were overpowered because of reach. The trick to making spears more balance is to somehow program the vulnerability of an enemy getting inside your spears range. In the real world, if an enemy gets in side a spearmans reach with a sword, it usually meant game over for the spearman.

Thats why spearmen would carry shortswords with them. So they could ditch the Spear and fight them

I know all my spear characters did! Even though it wasn't really neccessary in Morrowind because you could just back pedal to keep the enemy at bay.