Will there be slavery in Skyrim?

Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:26 am

Even under a serfdom rule there still existed slavery within those cultures. Slavery is suppose to be black and white, that's the whole purpose, why can't both exist within the same game? Slavery is part of our history, it founded the rights of African Americans, it is what built Egypt, it is what caused revolution and revolting. As I said before it existed in Morrowind, it would only make sense that Skyrim, a place which is right next to Morrowind, also have slavers too. This could also play out as a karma choice for a player who could decide to help the slavers, or free the slaves.

Just because slavery was in doesn't mean serfdom couldn't be either and vice versa.

I would also like to add that slavery was very much a black market system, and it still is today. It is against the law to have slaves anywhere in the world, but trust me there are plenty of slaves on the black market. Just because the emperor banned it, doesn't mean everyone is following the law.
Read what people are saying. Everyone either wants to be the glorious champion of justice and freedom, or a complete ass who also kicks puppies against/for the evil slave owners who also kick puppies. Just because Morrowind had it, doesn't mean Skyrim should have it.

And no it doesn't make sense for Skyrim to have it just because Morrowind had it. That logic just...doesn't hold any water! Plus, there has never, at all, been mention of nordic slavers. Raiders, sure. The nords are pretty against mer culture in general, and never has it been reported that men had a culture of slavery, unlike the Alyeid and Dunmer. Also, your use of using RL history to justify slavery doesn't hold. Use TES history instead, as it's where you'll find relevant deductions.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:25 pm

Wrong, sir, you are wrong! Morrowind is nothing more than ash and a territory of Black Marsh now. The dunmer have been chased off by the argonians, and they are now scattered and broken. Stay up to date.

And let me repeat, serfdom. It's better than evil slave owners and poor slaves.


Am not wrong
I was quoting it out of PC Gamer mag - coz i know nothing about the lore :)
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:07 pm

Am not wrong
I was quoting it out of PC Gamer mag - coz i know nothing about the lore :)
:rolleyes: wrong as in the dunmer are likely to be back and slave holding again. Currently, the dunmer are nothing more than refugees in Cyrodiil, Skyrim, and Solstheim. The former slave race, the argonians, poured out of Black Marsh, after Vvardenfel got hit with an asteroid and Red Mountain blowing its top (to give you a size reference of how big Red Mountain is, it's roughly half the size of Olympus Mons on Mars). Such an impact would cause ash to rain heavily on the mainland, along with seismic activity. And even before MW's nuking, it was hit really hard by the Oblivion Crisis, and nords with orc mercs. In short, after a decade of being slapped around by nature, nords, and Oblivion, the dunmer were extremely weak, and the argonians pushed them as far north as Vvardenfel.

In short, the dunmer lost everything, along with an extreme likelihood that their culture is gone too. Nothing quite like a near genocide.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:55 pm

I think that, in terms of there being more of a moral grey area, serfdom would suit best. There could be landowners who just want to keep their position of power and exploit those under them for all they're worth, and those who genuinely believe they are doing best by their workers. If there is a caste system, then there could be workers who desperately want to overthrow the land owners and work for themselves, and those who believe that this is what their station in life has called for, and that this is their honourable position within their culture, where they contribute to society (possibly even viewing their role as more important than that of a Lord or Lady, seeing as they "keep the wheels turning", so to speak).

[Edited for poor grammar]
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:07 am

:rolleyes: wrong as in the dunmer are likely to be back and slave holding again. Currently, the dunmer are nothing more than refugees in Cyrodiil, Skyrim, and Solstheim. The former slave race, the argonians, poured out of Black Marsh, after Vvardenfel got hit with an asteroid and Red Mountain blowing its top (to give you a size reference of how big Red Mountain is, it's roughly half the size of Olympus Mons on Mars). Such an impact would cause ash to rain heavily on the mainland, along with seismic activity. And even before MW's nuking, it was hit really hard by the Oblivion Crisis, and nords with orc mercs. In short, after a decade of being slapped around by nature, nords, and Oblivion, the dunmer were extremely weak, and the argonians pushed them as far north as Vvardenfel.

In short, the dunmer lost everything, along with an extreme likelihood that their culture is gone too. Nothing quite like a near genocide.


idk mate, maybe they just updated the lore or something for the new game ..
Maybe they have it wrong- but it say's ..''The empire has lost many of it's territtories in the dark elflands''..
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:04 pm

The empire lost practically all of their territories when it fell a few years after the oblivion crisis. It's in the TES book, and it is canon
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:22 pm

Ummm....I really hope that the people of Skyrim would learn from the mistakes of the Dunmer...
You Don't want to mess with Argonians
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