Will Xbox One Mods For Skyrim Remastered Disable Achievement

Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:22 pm

Will Xbox One Mods For Skyrim Remastered Disable Achievements? The reason I'm asking this, is because if you enable mods on the Xbox One version of Fallout 4, it will then disable the ability to earn mods on that save/character profile. I have never used the mods on Fallout 4 because of this, not that I don't want to, but because I'm not able to. What I mean is, I like going for all the achievements in Bethesda games, and since mods disable achievements, I can't activate mods without having the drawback of not being able to earn achievements. Now, you might say, "Well, why don't you just make another character?", and the answer to that is, I can't even if I wanted to. I like to have one character and play through the game on that character, once I beat the game on my first character, I started a 2nd character, but once I was in the middle of playing through the game on my second character, the mods for Xbox One came out. Now, on my second character, I focused on getting the new achievements for the new DLCs, keep in mind that I haven't finished the main story yet on my second character. So, given that information, even though I wanted to use mods, I couldn't because I was still earning the achievements. I'm very certain that there are loads of people in the Bethesda community who have this same opinion.



So my point now is, Why do all mods have to disable achievements? Also, before I go on, I know a PC player might reply to this post and say something like "Mods disable achievements on Steam so it doesn't really matter and I shouldn't worry about it." To that I will say that's where they are wrong. Yes, mods do disable achievements on Steam, but correct me if I'm wrong, but PC players are still able to some what mod the game without having the drawback of disabling the achievements. They can do this by using the console menu. Using the console menu, PC players can do stuff like resurrect NPCs, fix bugs, spawn items, and do other thing that they couldn't normally do in game. While I was playing through Fallout 4, I encountered a lot of bugs an glitches that I wish I could fix (like the freaking Level 4 merchants that never arrived at my settlements after I recruited them), or when I was building settlements, there were a lot of items that I wish I could use. The thing is, PC player can do most of that stuff with the console menu without being penalized. Over time after mod support came to Xbox One, different mods started coming out that fixed a lot of these issues, but I couldn't use them because I wanted to have a legit save so I could earn achievements.



Finally let's get to the main point of this post. Can you guys at Bethesda please make it so mods don't disable achievements in Skyrim Remastered? I know that there's probably going to be mods that make earning achievements easier, but what about the mods that don't affect how you would earn achievements such as the mods provide a fix to bugs, or give you cool customisable gear and items, and mods like that? How about you only disable mods that make it possible for you to cheat your way through the game or the mods that make it really easy to get said achievement? I bet there's plenty of people who want to use mods but can't because they also want to earn the achievements in the game. Please consider this.

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Charlie Sarson
 
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:20 pm

They aren't going to make mods compatible with achievements. And what's the fixation with achievements? Are you playing to have fun or to get a badge on your profile that nobody will see or care about?


Achievements are one of the worst developments in games ever.
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Anthony Rand
 
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:22 pm


Achievements on the Xbox One does have meaning since you can get rewards. I do not care for the rewards and I would love an option to disable them. At least for Fallout 4 and Skyrim I have that option.



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I doubt Bethesda/Microsoft will enable it since it would be a lot of work to check each mod. Mods will take longer to be released and there will be delays for updates for mods since they would have to be checked again. There are likely over 50k mods for Skyrim. Imagine all the work that needs to check each one and the cost to do so.

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Exactly. There's no way they're gonna evaluate each mod to see if it gives an advantage toward achievements. People just need to accept that mods mean not getting the trivial rewards from achievements.
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I don't get people who don't get people who like achievements. You don't care about them, more power to you, I like to platinum out a game if I can, and there's nothing to not get there.


I also don't get people who are bothered by mods disabling achievements. Without reviewing every mod by themselves they can't know if a mod gives you godly powers, so the solution is to simply make all the mods prevent getting achievements. If you don't care about achievements you shouldn't be bothered by being blocked out from them. If you do just dedicate one playthrough to collect them all swiftly, and then start over normally.


I like getting trophies on the ps4, and most of them make you go out of the way to get them, which is only a problem in rpgs. So how did I deal with Dark Souls? I did two plays to get all the trophies (first to learn the game at a slower pace, 2nd to nab all the trophies I didn't get in the first play), and then started over to normally and slowly.


Same with Skyrim on pc, I played for a while normally. When I decided to get whatever achievements I didn't get thus far I made a new character and it took me only 3 days to get some role playing unfriendly achievements like all houses and daedric artifacts.


It's so simple, really.
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My problem with achievements is that you end up playing differently than you would otherwise. Tbey're an exercise in jumping through hoops.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:16 pm


Agreed.

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Marlo Stanfield
 
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:52 pm

I thin Achievements are idiotic and have no place in roleplaying games. But I treat it as I do most other features (fast travel, for example) that I don't like in Bethesda's games: I ignore it. I play my Steam games offline, so I remain blissfully unaware of Achievements.

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:28 am



They already do monitor mods, who do you think takes down/refuses the nudity mods on consoles that people try to submit? The whole reason they brought mods over to consoles was because they wanted more people to try them out and see how good of an experience it can have with the game, was it not? There's people who do care about getting Achievements in games, Achievements aren't just a way to get rewarded. They can also provide extra challenges in games and they can be fun to work towards, they also provide more playability to games. Seriously, what is it going to hurt for them to allow mods that are only cosmetic and ones that don't have any impact towards achievement progress?

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:57 pm

I would make two separate characters, but the problem with that is, Skyrim was way bigger than Fallout 4 was, don't get me wrong, I love both games. Since Skyrim is a way bigger game than Fallout, plus the fact that that they're making more DLC for the remastered Skyrim to go along with the DLC that they already released for the game in last gen, it's going to take forever to do everything on both characters. You get what I'm saying?

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Many games offer challenges that make you play differently than you normally would. While most trophies are trivial, some of them are actual challenges that I find fun to tackle. Like I said, if you like them great, if you don't, great. You don't see me protesting about sports games. I don't like them, and I ignore them. People who love them can enjoy them all they want.





Trust me, they really do not monitor mods to the detail you'd think. Someone can claim they made a cosmetic mod, but who is to say it's not from a person that also hid an overpowered weapon in a chest somewhere, that he conveniently forgot to mention, in order to progress faster. The moment they'd enable the feature thousands of mods would be available within a week, no one in their right mind can think they have the manpower or will to pay for monitoring that amount of user made content. In short, they simply can't "risk" cheaters cheat just because there are also cosmetic mods out there. Like I said before, if achievements are so important for someone, just rush your way through them, or leave them for later, it's not that big of a deal that people make it out to be.





Not really, Skyrim is not big enough to make the achievements an actual problem. With a fresh new character you can get all the achievements in a week. Not to mention that Skyrim doesn't even have any actual trophies/achievements that actually require skill, it's all related to a grindfest, and Skyrim offers plenty of totally legitimate ways to grind everything incredibly fast.

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Well you're assuming Skyrim is going to be the only game people play when it comes out, I try to separate my time between multiple games per day so one game doesn't seem boring to me. There's also other games that are coming out that people might have interest in. No one has mentioned my other point yet, PC players are able to still somewhat cheat in a way by using the console menu and this doesn't disable achievements. I want to talk about this subject, but at the same time I don't because I know if I do, PC players who either hate consoles, or the PC players who fail to see the value in achievements, come out of the woodwork and say my post is useless. Some PC players fail to see that Bethesda is trying to share the full experience of their game with PC and console players, instead of just PC players. They also fail to see the point of view of console players. Yeah I get it, using mods also disables achievements for you, but achievements probably aren't that big of a feature on PC as they are on Consoles. Yes, I also get the fact that PC players have the magical power of their console menus to cheat through a game or access additional features and still have the ability of earning achievements even though they might not care about them.

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:03 am


They are not really monitoring mods. Yes some mods are taken down but it usually takes days or even weeks. By monitoring mods they would have to test each mod line by line and they must do it again before releasing an updated version. If a version of a mod is released and it did have a cheat than the whole achievements having meaning on the platform will be gone unless they wipe all the achievements for everyone including those that did not use mods. I do not think that would go well. It is just better to make sure everyone is in the same boat and not to use mods if you want to earn achievements.



Achievements do not add more to the gameplay or extra challenges. They are already in the game with or without achievement. I have no problems with achievements being in the game or if they are not in the game. I just do not like them since they add nothing.



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Steam achievements are a joke and have no meaning at all

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:38 pm

who said there making more dlc for the remastered version.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:08 pm

Saying that Achievements don't add anything to the game is your opinion, and it's a stupid one. Achievements encourage you to try out different routes in the game and they add replayability.

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:14 am

Bethesda themselves have said this.

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I have only heard that it was the Legendary edition with enhanced graphics and that it will be 64 bit.



https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/skyrim-special-edition-unveiled-for-ps4-xbox-one-and-pc/2016/06/12/145







It is fine to like achievements but they are not needed to enjoy the game. Most achievements that I have seen are like starting a character. Opening your inventory and other such junk. Maybe 5% of the achievement might have any value if that.



If you need achievements to enjoy the game then maybe the game is not for you.

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:34 pm

Mind linking us the official statement? Where did you read this?

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Apparently after looking, I will admit that there isn't going to be any new DLC. Which is weird because I have heard from my game news friends that there would be new DLC. I will also say that I disagree with you when you said achievements in games don't matter/ don't provide anything, that's your opinion. Yes, there are games that have achievements that award you for simple tasks like the ones you've said, but there are games that actually have challenging achievements.

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:12 am


I have not seen any game with challenging ones but then again I have not been looking or care about them. If you like them that is fine. I believe there is a mod that has made in game achievements maybe Xbox One will have that mod.



Just rumors in regard to new DLC or that Bethesda might have been working on one a few years ago but had to stop due to reaching the limits of the console especially on PS3.

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:16 am

I will agree with the achievements argument there a great way to get the players to try something new or a new way to play they wouldnt normaly play. not everyone rp's the same as everybody else or come to the same conclusion so achievements can be a great way to get players to try something else. Theres no reason to belittle other players opinions on the matter though.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:23 pm


When ever I looked into achievements most of the time it was like opening up your inventory for the first time, starting your first character, starting up the tutorial and such. Maybe I did not look hard enough and those types of achievements in no way you have try something else.



If It sounds like I belittled anyone's opinion I do apologize for that

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:22 am

or the "die 100 times" or "listen to the same line of dialogue for the 10th time", or "click on the action button next to the chair you start in"..



if you want to try playing a game a different way, just play it a different way.. personally i find the idea of someone needing instant gratification badge for trying something different in a game kind of sad (we didn't have them in the 90s, and yet we were still able to find all the cool hidden stuff by just going "maybe i'll go this way instead"), games like Might & Magic or Diablo 2 didn't have achievements, and yet people still played through those countless different ways and saw everything the game had to offer..


if a person likes achievements, i guess thats their choice so good for them i suppose.. but IMHO from my experience, they really don't serve much of a purpose than a "you did good!" virtual badge..




to each their own i suppose

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:24 pm

Yeah, there only has been wishful thinking by fans, including me. The reasoning being that the remaster could be a good foundation / starting point if BGS decides they want to resume creating new DLC for Skyrim. Since the remaster is being put on newer gen systems, maybe BGS will be more inclined to create some more DLC for Skyrim. Keyword *if*, though

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:54 pm

Easy acievements?! I [censored] tou not I despise those " hey you finished a level....here's some feel good points!" If it were up to me they would be a lot harder and more creative then

" hey heres some points"

And again not everybody rp's a lot arent even aware of it if an achievement hunter play a different character because he's going after one and he finds that he enjoyed playing this character then maybe that'll get him to try another character and another and then he joins the forums.... and then he belongs to us!!!
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