It's pretty common knowledge that Honest Hearts will feature ex-Legate Graham, the Legion founder Caesar covered in pitch, set alight and threw in to the Grand Canyon following his failure at the First Battle of Hoover Dam in 2277. Graffiti hints his presence with:
# "The Burned Man Walks!"
# "Joshua Graham Lives!"

I'd also put good money on this being his face:
http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/2/24/Honestheartsbanner.jpg

So, given his presence and what we know about his past, if you get the chance to slay him, will you kill him or let him live?

This is more complicated than it first sounds, particularly for NCR/House/Independent characters. The conflict comes with the old saying "...the enemy of my enemy is my friend." - Caesar's Legion supporters would no doubt love to kill the man Caesar has forbidden mention of, the man responsible for their greatest humiliation. Killing him as an NCR supporter (my main character) means you're essentially doing the Legion's bidding. Lanius spits on his name, stating that "...comparing him to any man of Caesar will only earn you a slow death". Caesar is also noticeably narked if you bring him up.

However, he was also the co-founder of an aggressive slaver organisation totally opposed to the ideals of the Republic. There should be no statute of limitations on the crimes of murder and slavery, no matter how disgraced he became with the Legion. If given the chance, I'll exact even justice, as I would for any Legionary.

So, who do you support and will you kill Graham?

Why would I want to kill him?
I dunno if I ever could kill him.

No. I will pass a speech check to convince him he is now a ghoul. The Mojave needs more Ghouls.

he was supposedly instrumental in the Legion's success (early on). He was feared to be an unkillable monster that struck fear into his enemies, and inspired the Legion soldiers to fight. He was with the Legion once and one of its founders. This is enough for me to want to destroy him (my independent playthrough, which is seriously opposed to CL). Of couse, my CL character wouldn't want him alive either, for reasons the OP stated. So yeah, Graham dies. For those thinking he'll be unkillable: all NPCs except Yes Man are killable, so it would only be fitting if Graham is, as well.

I judge a man not by his actions nor by the merits of his past but by how he continues forward after them.

In other words, it depends if he still is a murdering bastard bent on spreading misery and sorrow. If he has changed and taken a different path to bring civility and order to the wastes... we shall see what we shall see.

I d have to what he does first. A misguided sole that probably learned better than anyone what cl is really all about should be givin a chance to redeem himself. One way or another

That's interesting; I can't say I'll be as forgiving as you, though.

We can't help putting a foot wrong.



I think the game might do its best to make the player feel guilty with another daft no-win situation.

what's my motivation though?

This poll is irrelevant since we don't really know what the story is (other than Caesar throwing him off a cliff). Wait for the DLC

That is if he is killable.

If he survived that punishment, then I doubt a glorified mailman will be enough to stop him.

He has a weakness...


PLATINUM.

once legion, always legion

My first character through will talk Graham down if at all possible, subsequent ones will depend on the character's personality. I do expect to kill him outright at least once as well.

My character is trying to be the new Graham. I will kill him.

I need the DLC first. He seems like a very interesting character. "Just wants to watch the world burn" kinda guy

First off, I wouldn't kill him ever....and hell I don't think i could kill him to be honest. That said, still need the dlc to decide for sure.

Ghouls are cool! Lovem'.

Undecided, I need to see the DLC first.

He may well be an ally against Legion after getting the shake and bake treatment and looking for a little payback. :flamethrower:

I want to help him kill some legion

he is in need of revenge on the Legion. I will help him get payback and let him start again.
(Sierra Madre)

How do you know he wants revenge? For all we know he could still love the Legion.

Ill do whatever seems best for my faction.
On my independant char (Which i havent started yet, its next though, just started a house[lv 4]), ill basically play as myself. And my motto is " There is no good or evil, there is only difference". So it depends on how different we are

For me, I'll wait and see how hes changed. If hes still a Legion lover I'll try and talk him out if possible, if not I'll kill him. He may have done wrong in the past but every wrongdoer can be redeemed if their sincerely sorry. Though some who step on that path forget theres a better one right by it.

If he's Legion he may live, ave. If he is not then he shall face Caeser's top assassin.

The hanged man would be a great ally.

You know "ave" means "welcome" or "farewell" in latin right?