1st playthough and i hope to never have to switch it off,
might have to if it eats into my nuka cola collection though lol.

hardcoe, first time, baby.
I don't know what a vanilla Bethesda game is. Oblivion I immediately installed all the realism/immersion mods, like OOO and MMM right out of the gate, and it was an experience I'll never forget. It was a tough, unforgiving world. It didn't feel like a game.
Same with FO3... I picked it up a year after release, found the realism mods, and away we went.
I don't understand the thrill in running from location to location with guns a-blazing, taking fifty shots from enemy guns, button-mashing the stimpacks like they're gummy bears, with 1500 rounds in your pack. I've watched some playthroughs on YouTube and level three characters will charge into the QuickieMart with a pistol and stand toe-to-toe with the raiders until they're all dead. That's fun?
Here's my Quickie Mart playthrough: Scout the area first, sneaking around the hills. Under cover of darkness, I pick off one or two with clean head shots. While they're on alert, I wait a little, sneak to a different position. I sneak in to loot a body that's close enough to risk. Find some ammo I desperately need. Creep back to the hills. Pick off another one. Another group of three near a car. I lob my only grenade at them. Takes down one, but the other two are injured and I get them after a firefight that has me ducking behind cover constantly. That done, I loot the bodies--don't find much other than a little bit of ammo and some armor I can't carry all at once--and head inside. I sneak in, see movement here, there, around the corner... something in the shadows... I think, OMG, this ain't going to be easy, and I try to figure out how to get a good shot on that one closest to me who's pacing back and forth. One good head shot, if only that bastard would stand still....
All that suspense, the impending feeling of danger, hoping that you're being quiet enough, hoping that the noise you hear around the corner is just one raider and not five, waiting for just the right moment to take that shot because one may be all you'll get...
I really think that people who "easy-mode" their way through these games are missing out on one of the very best gaming experiences available right now.
I remember in the Red Racer factory I missed a key shot on a ghoul, and suddenly six of them were howling and charging me and I had no choice but to run like hell, because I had no chance otherwise...
Or when I had to limp back to Megaton with a crippled leg, ducking behind rocks and sneaking across roads, trying to make my way past the roving bands of Super Mutants....
Or being damn close to running out of ammo during a firefight with the Talon Company, backing away, ducking, shooting, backing away...
With unlimited ammo, stimpacks, superhuman skills, none of these exciting moments would have happened. I think you guys are missing out.

2nd maybe 1st but if it turns out really good I will use it for all my characters

@12th Monkey
Sounds epic. Wish I had I good PC. I'm on a crappy laptop that switches off every 20 minutes.

By the way, have they said anything about whether or not stimpacks and other chems have weight?
I know ammo will have weight but what about the drugs?

my 1st playthrough will be
hardcoe with normal difficulty

I have to agree with you, but people have varying opinions and whatnot, some of them would rather not think their plans through and just charge on ahead. They treat it like any other FPS. Though in my very opinion, realism can be quite great, but taking it too far would just ruin it, say....Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising, it looks good...it seems good....but yet it's not once it comes into actual play. And of course, as you said, It wouldn't feel like a game

Yes though, suspense, thrill and fear, combined with fun, is a really great thing, but it's just not for everyone sadly. Most of the people who come to play video games, is in it mainly for the fun.

hardcoe mode would be amazing for role playing but I'd rather do the quests normally.

I'll try with hardcoe on, but really it seems like it might be a bit too much hassle for me for the first time around. If I don't like it I'll turn it off and start over.

1st - normal
2nd - WIld West
3rd - hardcoe

This is probably what I'm going to do:
1st play through: Realistic morale, make decisions that I would make if I were really in the situation, normal mode.
2nd play through: Good guy only, normal mode.
3rd play through: Evil guy only, normal mode.
4th play through: Realistic morale, make decisions that I would make if I were really in the situation, hardcoe mode.

So I'll probably be spending more than 400 hours on this game. Having no life is awesome.
If normal mode is too easy, I'll try hardcoe.

I'll most likely set HC mode and forget about it until I have to re-install the game, and remember that it has to be set again.

If I try it and it's very hard and not fun, I will never touch it again.

this

You only need 2 words:

Judas Priest

Some of their songs just fit fallout so well.

Also is this a zombie thread? and yes I'll stickt o my first playthrough and pretty much so on. I'll only use normal if I want to just make a character to screw around with.

Only thing that bugs me about the hardcoe mode is ammo having weight.
All the other stuff about food ,sleep ,drink ,etc seem reasonable.

I'm gonna go for hardcoe on hard difficulty right off the bat.

I think it will make the game feel really fresh and different than FO3.

I really enjoyed FO3 at low levels, where your main focus was scaving, survival, choosing your battles and running away from more than a few.

I'm hoping that hardcoe accentuates this type of play style.

Six weeks and counting. sigh.

Why exactly? It was a big part of the series. You had to prioritize what you were willing to haul across the wastes...

What is it about the ammo weight that you dislike?

hardcoe mode? I don't know for sure when I'll go for it. Both sides have good points to make on the subject, for first or second playthrough. I can't quite say I ever said that I felt godlike in fallout 3 though (well, maybe on evil characters when blowing up Megaton). I might save hardcoe mode for when I want more challenge or make the game feel fresh after completing it once. I don't really need to see how it would really be in the game as I have lived in AZ for most of my life and know how crucial water is in the desert. And as for the ammo weight thing, it does svck in real life... I was a S.A.W. gunner in the U.S. Army Infantry for about 4 years and in Iraq I carried well over 1,000 rounds with me. I will play it eventually, I just don't know if it will be the first time

i want to go for the it on the first play through. but knowing me ill probably just woss out and turn it off before i reach level 4

1st playthrough or not at all.

hardcoe mode promotes strategizing andI LOVE strategizing. One time I was swarmed by Talon company and died, so I laid out a bunch of mines and led them through.
That means I'll have to think my way out of a situation, rather than running and gunning.

I'll be going hardcoe on my 3rd. 1st (mainquest). 2nd (have fun!!!). 3rd (challenge yourself).

Though I'm not a fan of the "needs", I plan on sticking to HC at all times; and just make different characters and adjust difficulty if I want diversity.

hardcoe....on Hard....

that sounds hardcoe B) .................or something very difficult......or just difficult..... :mellow: