That spot looks nice, but it seems close to

Never played it. Any chance you can go in game and get a screenshot of the map marker for it?

Here are a few early screens for you Strider. :foodndrink:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/whoguru/Oblivion%20Screenshots/Misc/WillowEdgeInn01.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/whoguru/Oblivion%20Screenshots/Misc/WillowEdgeInn02.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/whoguru/Oblivion%20Screenshots/Misc/WillowEdgeInn03.jpg

Thanks for the info, I have never played the mod for MW so this info helps a great deal , A lot of that is quest making, there would be some small scripting to place NPCs in the correct spots ect, Oh and the script for the profit.

What I was thinking on the profit side of things is the player earns it weekly (as you know) but the money is placed in a player owned chest, possibly in a player room?(Need your input Red). The money will get added every week regardless of whether the player picked up the previous weeks money. For me it seems like a more simpler way of doing things.

Well of course if the player is running the place they'll need their own room to stay in. Strider would you like it on the premises or a small cottage/home nearby?

Yes I thought so, but was unsure what you had planned

Haven't started the interiors yet other than to get them in place so I'm open to anything.

Looks great WhoGuru! I'm working on the building textures now. I never textured a building before so this will be interesting.

IS: The chest idea is perfect, and obviously a lot less tedious. B)

That's good

Strider: How much do you want the player to earn per week?, well before and after hiring full staff?. Also I am thinking of the staff actually getting paid each week and their pay comes right out of the player's earnings. The player won't get quite as much but it will be more immersive I think.

Yeah that's cool. I'm not really sure as everyone usually get's up in arms if it's too much, but if it's not enough what's the point. What it tops out at around 3,000 a week less expenses? Is that too much? Not enough?

Also I think there were initial outlays of moeny to hire the various workers. Like travel fees and what not. Maybe we could add that to the cost of advancing the bar along with the weekly salaries.

Who: I was kinda thinking we could have the player residence in the bar, this way it forces you to hang out there, (I'm sure the bartender would get lonely otherwise ^_^ )

I'm unsure what the best amount is too, might have to do a but of experimenting. Initial outlays could be worked in, though exactly what the cost amounts are is something you'll need to decided

Actually you could base the cost on how far away the NPC is, so say you have a short quest to get a bartender and he is in Skingrad, well travel could be 100 gold or less, but if he were in say the IC that could be 200 gold or more.

Well we have plenty of time to decided while WhoGuru works her magic on the inn.

Inside it is Strider. :foodndrink: I'll give the player a nice little apartment in there. IS can put his chest in there as well when I've finished.

Edit: Also, I'll make all the containers in the Inn player safe so there's no confusion.

Here's some textures (still in beta mode).

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz357/themythofanst/NifSkope2010-02-0223-57-43-32.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz357/themythofanst/NifSkope2010-02-0300-00-21-25.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz357/themythofanst/NifSkope2010-02-0300-00-13-23.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz357/themythofanst/NifSkope2010-02-0223-56-53-45.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz357/themythofanst/NifSkope2010-02-0223-56-34-23.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz357/themythofanst/NifSkope2010-02-0223-57-08-40.jpg

This sounds like a PERFECT idea for a mod, and I know it's the kind of thing that I would just have to download. I can't really offer any technical help yet, because I'm only hoping to look into the CS for the first time in the coming weeks, but if it's support / idea tossing around you're after, I'm all in!

I'll be keeping an eye on this....I swear, Whoguru and IS in the same thread is a dangerous combination :lmao:

Looking very good Strider! I think if you can find some meeting of the minds between image 2 and Alternate version C you'll have it just about perfect!




Heh heh heh stuff seems to throw itself together when we're around yeah. I've noticed. :lmao:

This promises to be quite an amazing mod, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it . So many big-name modders working on one project can only result in something great

Thanks Who. It still needs some work but I'm moving in the right direction. :hehe:

Started messing around with some bar clutter.

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz357/themythofanst/NifSkope2010-02-0300-46-47-21.jpg
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz357/themythofanst/NifSkope2010-02-0301-12-52-14.jpg

:rofl: , love the bar sign themythofstrider

:rofl: Those are brilliant! I love them! The sign is classic! You have to keep that last line!

As a suggestion for another barsign, I have a sign hanging in my kitchen. Very old from a bar that closed in the 1920's, It says "Proprietor not responsible for behavior when intoxicated." :lmao: If you want another idea.

Will there be some music ?

- http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2255/bard7.jpg


Here is some info if you deside to add bards.

- Animation.

Umpa`s guitar animation:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14574

Personality Idles4:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14280

Reapers Animated Lute
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28307

- Models.

Harpsichords in Cyrodiil:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12510

David Whitefang Piano Improved:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18942

David Whitefang Piano Lid Open Improved:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18988

Korana Morrowind Mods COMPLETE:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/27167-2-1252914749.jpg
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27167

Lute:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4660

3D meshes of a lute (free download):
http://www-roc.inria.fr/gamma/download/MUSIC/index2.php

Good picture of a lute if you like to make it yourself:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6100/hieberlute.jpg

If you feel that it is more appropriate that the bard is playing a harp, here is a link to some 3D meshes:
http://www-roc.inria.fr/gamma/download/MUSIC/index2.php

Picture of a harp:
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7792/harpl.jpg


- Music.

Personality Idles4:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14280
(some gutiar/lute tunes)

Piano TES4 Theme:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26002

MIC- Medieval Instrumental Collection v1:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22085

MIC- Medieval Instrumental Collection v2
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22406

MrPwners Ambient Inns:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24602

Musica Prima Tavern Music:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9993

RWolfs Enhanced Taverns n Temples plus:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3813

Clip on youtube of good medieval lute music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1klIcr0d5E

Links to lute music, not the best quality but it`s free:
http://www.songoftherose.co.uk/
(Go to the left menu and pick a category, right click on the songs name and save as)

http://www.free-scores.com/free-sheet-music.php?CATEGORIE=60
(Don`t listen to it on the site, for some reason the quality is terrible. Download the mp3-file and listen.)

Some harp music on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoNb3_6TvqU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j1n5z4Qb3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qznkE8dMtY

Link to harp music, not the best quality but it`s free:
http://www.free-scores.com/free-sheet-music.php?CATEGORIE=30
(Don`t listen to it on the site, for some reason the quality is terrible. Download the mp3-file and listen.)


- Screenshots and art.

Me trying to make a bard/troubadour like character:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3803/screenshot24.png
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5431/screenshot18v.png

Some google images of bards for inspiration:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2255/bard7.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9653/bard6.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2194/bard5.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1062/bard4.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3023/bard2.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2927/bard1z.jpg


- Music control.

I don't know if you need something like this to make the music fade in the distance:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19772





Some pictures of medieval inns for inspiration:

- http://www.tabletop-world.com/Images/medievalInn-web.jpg
- http://danielhaslop.co.uk/blog/images/tavern_wip.jpg
- http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo330/Sovvolf/MedievalinnCornershot.png
- http://www.medievalaccommodation.com/medieval-britain/South%20West/South%20West%20Pics/The%20George%20Inn%201.jpg
- http://www.i-love-alsace.com/images/A_11_108.jpg
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalolive/1296973915/
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/archidave/1532968646/
- http://www.flickr.com/photos/30515687@N05/3611500710/


I think adding Meos Window Boxes would look good on the building
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28174

Now what is that supposed to mean? :stare: , :lmao:



Yup Yup, would be great

Looks like great WIP mod!

Is there going to be any cattle outside? Or perhaps a servant / player needs to buy his wares from the local food market?
This would bring a lot of immersion with the mod, though it might be challenging due to compatibility / scripting.

Any ideas on Q's yet? I do have an idea im going to spam you with

Okay I have the profit script wrote, gonna test it to make sure there are no bugs. Should not be any becuase its rather simple

I was thinking about ordering in more stock, my idea is that you have to order in stock once a week. To do this the player will get prompted when the stocks are low (IE week has passed) they will then find an order form at the bar or in the player's room, from here the player uses a quick menu to order the stock, small costs will be taken directly from the player.

What do you think?, Also if you like it could you make a order form, kinda like the bar sign just smaller so it fits on a desk ect?

Awesome! I can indeed do so. By the time we're done we'll have to set up 401k's for all the workers.

Some new screens for you here. The Exterior is pretty much finished now.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/whoguru/Oblivion%20Screenshots/Misc/WillowEdge04.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/whoguru/Oblivion%20Screenshots/Misc/WillowEdge05.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/whoguru/Oblivion%20Screenshots/Misc/WillowEdge06.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/whoguru/Oblivion%20Screenshots/Misc/WillowEdge07.jpg