:woot: This sounds amazing Fliggerty! Morrowind has been due for this for a very long time and I can think of no better scripter and modder than you to do it.

Keep up the good work! :goodjob:

I like the idea of penalizing your weapon skills through blocking- the amount before/after you block that is penalized (as well as how severe it is) could depend on your Block skill. I still think how much damage your shield takes should also depend on your skill.

The one question that popped into my head as soon as I read it was about companions making proactive moves, and whether that would constitute an illegal assault. You certainly wouldn't want the NPC that you're escorting to get killed by a guard for having "protected" you by attacking a random bandit.

I like the idea of having a "Block" key add to your Block skill but subtract from your weapon skills in the meantime. Perhaps your skills could have a SMALL influence on the amount of damage taken or delivered, but please don't ruin this mod by turning it into an Oblivion-style "skill = damage" combat system.

Most of this sounds like a "dream mod", but a couple of things stand out as being potentially undesirable in some or most situations, such as randomizing attack moves. I certainly wouldn't want to see my character suddenly start acting insane by beating on an opponent with the side of a spear, or trying to stab someone with a warhammer. I'm also wondering about having all of the NPCs suddenly getting additional weapons, potions, and spells, especially since we all know either how lame or uber some random combinations can be. As long as such things are kept "optional", I don't think I'd have any problem with them.

Good luck with it.

Will this mod cause NPCs to fight each other randomly so that we could possibly stumble onto NPCs vs NPCs fights throughout the game world?

Great!

Agreed, variation is good, but not when the item given to the npc could be inappropriate (A temple guy summoning daedra from a spell scroll, a berserker wearing a cuirass, etc.).

if this mod is released i will quit playing Morrowind. cause then NPCs will b able to kill me lol!!! jk about that, i wont stop playin MW for a long time this sounds awsome-er than the other thread!!!
IDEA: ok so when i seen that enemies can surrender i was so happy, cause then mayb sombody will make an add-on that makes it so u can ENSLAVE them. but then i realized it must be REALLY hard to get sombody to surrender, so why not make Charm spells increase chance of surrender? if you charm them with a REALLY powerful spell, then the chance of them surrendering during the spell's time is increased can u add this pleeeaaase?
edit:to clearify, the enslave thing, i use Flig's slave mod (least i think it was fliggerty's)

Can't wait for this. :drool:

The ability to sneak up on enemies in caves and kill them with stealth would be nice

A mod this grand in scope by one person? All I can say is.... Someone needs a to get a life. I am, of course, kidding. Sounds excellent, Fliggerty. And ambitious. Someday I may actually get a comp nice enough to play some of these ambitious mods. Of course, doing this mod may seriously cut into your working on the Eldanorcara mod. I trust you have your priorities straight.

That isn't something I had thought of, but it is a wonderful idea. I'll see what I can do.


It won't be anymore than NPCs Enhanced already does. The additions are very minor; no armor, and nothing expensive and overpowered. Really all that is added is potions and marksman weapons. The weapons are added only if the NPC has a reasonably high marksman skill and doesn't have a marksman weapon to use. And the potions are added so that "cast on self" spells can be simulated (it's easier to make them drink a potion than it is to cast a spell.) With a few exceptions, most of the potions are removed when the NPC dies so that the player can't collect a bunch of seemingly overpowered potions.



A novel idea indeed. I'll toss it around.



If it was possible, I'd certainly do something like that. Unfortunately I can't change the condition of items that are in an inventory. I suppose the closest we could come would be to add a Disintegrate effect in the last moments of life, though that would be very hard to judge when they will still be alive long enough for that to do anything, but not so long that it affects the outcome of the battle. :shrug:



I think that would make things unnecessarily complex. Trying to judge whether they are going into a city or not would take too much script effort and FPS is a major concern in this project.
As for summons, I believe it will but I'm not entirely sure if a summoned creature actually is in AIFollow mode. If so, they will be affected.


Again, this is one of those things that technically could be done, but I'm afraid that the cost to performance would be far too much.


Sorry, this I won't do. Not because I don't personally like the idea, but because the unintended side effects are too much. As much as I can come up with really neat things using MWSE, but I can't alter what has been hard coded. Existing mods that do this change things like attack rating; in my experience it greatly overbalances combat in a negative way.

Sorry, had to break this up into multiple posts to fit all the quotes.



That is basically what I intend to do. I am only using drain and fortify to make changes, thus there will be no problem with GCD. Your skill will still matter, and increase as you use it.

I'm still experimenting with things, but the way it works now is that the attack key is disabled while you are blocking. I was thinking of the way it works in Mortal Kombat, you can sit and block all you want but it has a cost. You can't attack while doing it...and you can still take small amounts of damage.


I'm not positive, but I'm fairly sure it calculates on the actual contact. I suspect the damage is calculated and applied on the same frame that the "Health Damage" sound begins playing.



Those are staying intact.

I have two thoughts on this. First, it doesn't matter how skilled someone is, an axe to the neck is just as fatal. And anyone can get lucky. On the other hand, a high level character has higher stats and probably better equipment. That's why the chances are dependent upon things like what the NPC has equipped (it will be harder to impale someone wearing a heavy cuirass) and their attributes like luck.

I always thought that mages had it pretty good already. :shrug: Although I have always tried to improve the variety of spells available with mods such as Visceral Discernment, Summoning Enhanced, and Detection Enhanced.



The reason I first experimented with the random attacks is to somewhat improve the visual aspect of combat. I have always hated the fact that we are only limited to 3 different attack animations, only one of which is generally used. After I tried this, I became rather fond of how it looked. But it's a taste thing; that's why everything will be optional.



No. That will cause far too large of an FPS hit, and I have to basis to determine which NPCs ought to fight each other.


Uh, isn't that already in the game?

I'd say the problem here is not so much the NPCs but the way most caves are set up- as a series of linear tunnels with the occasional large room. There's not too much in the way of "back doors" or "vantage points". Then again, I've noticed that sneaking up on an enemy and hitting them isn't always a critical hit (even when the Sneak icon appears), but then again I've not done this with 100 Sneak yet. Perhaps sneak attacks could be given other benefits, such as having the enemy flee for a few seconds initially (to represent their surprise in being snuck up on) or having their own special moves (I'd love to be able to get up behind an NPC and knock them out Solid Snake-style, or cut their throat for an OHKO :toughninja: )

What about important boss-type fights? Will the special move/fatality thing be toned down for certain encounters, like the end-game sequence boss-fights of normal Morrowind and the expansions?

I can't see the Imperfect or Karstaag or Almalexia or Dagoth Ur just keeling over like that...

It's not because they're big or important, but it's their supernatural/mechanical nature. I don't think even a daedric sword could just slice off Imperfect's head, or that a skull-crushing bash would insta-kill Almalexia. Ok, so maybe Karstaag isn't supernatural or mechanical...but he's a friggin giant! Shouldn't, oh I dunno, super bone density count for something?

Could you also only release the AI? I don't want fancy scrpted combat moves and player controlled blocking(which removes the purpose of the block skill, how it works in MW) but I want a combat AI that's awesome!

Every component is optional.

Yep thats what i am talking about, it would be great to sneak up to someone, slit their throat or something for a OHKO, and if you sneak level was high enough take out a whole cave like that

This mod will go along perfectly with Blasphemous Revenants! You can enslave someone, lead him to the temple, then just kill him there, no running with a whole body on your back!

You could always try out http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=4137


Most of those bosses are creatures. For the most part the special attacks will only work on NPCs (kind of hard to disarm a mudcrab.)


The NPC portion and the PC portion will both be released separately. Although they will work together as part of a whole, either one will function as a stand-alone mod.

Purely epic! That's all I have to say about this one... :bowdown:

any idea when it'l be released?
:| i guess that is an answer. just not what i wanted. how about 2morrow? jk

Yep. Later.

"When it's done" is just about always the right way to go (because stuff is done best that way!).

Very cool ideas here. I just may have another. It could check for how many enemies vs foes, if there is a lone crusader fighting against you and your small army of companions, it may just throw a powerful area effect at the lot, but if other bad guys around it sticks to single target spells to avoid friendly fire. Just one more possible dynamic to the mix.

This might seem a bit superficial, but the stock animations were just awkward. I know it's difficult making a new animations for Morrowind, but the current ones remind me of D&D kids dressing up and throwing "lightning bolts" at an "Ogre". More technically sound ones would be nice, even if the choppiness couldn't be dealt with.

Also, why not have more than one animation per attack type? i.e. You chop once coming slightly from the right side of the screen, then you bring your weapon back up and chop from the left if you follow up with another chop. Same with slashes, slash from left to right over and over instead of bringing the weapon over to the right again. Thrusts should look like thrusts, not just swinging the arm forward with the point sticking out.

Maybe the animations improve into more technically masterful ones as you progress in your skill levels. Start out with the terrible default ones, then as you level up you look more like something out of a Lichtenauer fechtbuch.

Don't know if it's possible, but you wanted ideas.

Sounds most promising.

I'm glad you're looking at making the special attacks a bit more difficult and especially how they're not automatic based on a combo. CE is a great mod, my biggest issue with it is I can almost guarantee certain combos which can make combat very unbalanced. The knock down effect can be used to basically keep any opponent down until they run out of health.


Will watch closely for this one and a big thank you for undertaking the challenge.


:)