The issue I been having all of a sudden is crashing on the Witchgirl Adventure quest that has you go into The End of World Tavern, and have to help Thing-ah-Linguina. It seems to start the second I talk to her Quest wise, and not before this quest is actived, as I did try this with new character realy fast and it worked fine. Some times it won't crash right away and sometimes it seems to not crash at all after talking to her, But not sure as it usually did crash and if I ever saved and try and reload that save it would Always crash right away.

I read around on multiple things and also tried to make sure it was in fact this area/quest/npc that was causing it, by playing previous saves and doing various things in them and was not experiencing any issues other then one time it said something about not being able to find a pant leg at a random time, think it is from a different mod (metal queen boutique) and read some where that should not be a big issue and the fact while I was trying to verify this being the issue I caused duplicate of at least(did not look to see if others were) Laura Craft(another mod by the same great Emma)to appear, but read it not big deal also just to use console and delete duplicate(s). Also read it may be local ref error, since I did not have CoM or Partners Mods before, but read that these mods work fine together, more so of CoM obviously as it being also made by Emma.

I obviously posted this issue on Emma's forum also, but have had only one reply that did not read what I wrote really and therefore was of No help(I understand it can take time for responses and the person that tried to help probaly has lots to do and just tries to solve things as quick as possible or w/e) and also what I say in next paragraph lol.

Any help on how to fix this would be Greatly appreciated, since I realy do not want to risk making things even worse so therefore am not even playing Morrowind until this is fixed, nor am I going to work on fixing my other issues of having turned on both esp,esm of a couple other mods, though read all I have to do is turn off their esps and learn and use WyreMash to fix the save games, and one of the two mods I more than likely won't even bother with on current play through as to many people seem to have issues with it (Pegas Horse Ranch).

Hi again

I posted a reply in my forum this morning, but you probably haven't seen it yet. I'm re-posting it here, because I know I won't have much access to internet the coming week, and there are many knowledgeable people here that might be able to help you.

Does your warning.txt file show anything out of the ordinary? How about the ProgramFlow.txt?

Raed

My warnings.txt the things above the not able to find are totaly normal, have always had them. The Not able to find things and textures Never seen before, but guessing it has something to do with Metal Queen Boutique, though as stated before I tried playing without messing with, using w/e Metal Queen any and was still having the Crash issue.

One of the files that "Mournhold, The Great Bazaar.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Mournhold Expanded COM.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Mournhold Expanded COM NC.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "MW_family2_0.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.
Not able to find Ankle part in RT_T_Pants1_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in RT_T_Pants1_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RT_T_Pants1_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in rt_pants_MW32_a.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_MW32_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_MW32_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in RTJEB_nin_pants_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RTJEB_nin_pants_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in rt_pants_MW32_a.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_MW32_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_MW32_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in emc_rt_p_br_21_a.
Not able to find Knee part in emc_rt_p_br_21_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in emc_rt_p_br_21_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in rt_pants_MW32_a.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_MW32_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_MW32_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in emc_rt_p_br_21_a.
Not able to find Knee part in emc_rt_p_br_21_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in emc_rt_p_br_21_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in RTJEB_nin_pants_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RTJEB_nin_pants_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in RTJEB_nin_pants_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RTJEB_nin_pants_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_a.
Not able to find Knee part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in RTJEB_nin_pants_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RTJEB_nin_pants_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in emc_p31_exv2_bvelv_a.
Not able to find Knee part in emc_p31_exv2_bvelv_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in emc_p31_exv2_bvelv_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in emc_p_Knee_bl2_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in emc_p_Knee_bl2_M_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in RTJEB_nin_pants_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RTJEB_nin_pants_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in rtbc_p_c_strt_03_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in rtbc_p_c_strt_03_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rtbc_p_c_strt_03_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in embc_p_c_g_5_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in embc_p_c_g_5_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in embc_p_c_g_5_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in embc_p_c_g_03c_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in embc_p_c_g_03c_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in embc_p_c_g_03c_M_ul.
Not able to find Forearm part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Pauldron_FA.
Not able to find Forearm part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Pauldron_FA.
Not able to find Knee part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Greav_K.
Not able to find Knee part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Greav_K.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Greav_UL.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Greav_UL.
Not able to find Knee part in RTJEB_nin_pants_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RTJEB_nin_pants_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in embc_p_c_g_01z_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in rtbc_p_c_strt_03_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in rtbc_p_c_strt_03_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rtbc_p_c_strt_03_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in embc_p_c_g_5_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in embc_p_c_g_5_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in embc_p_c_g_5_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in embc_p_c_g_03c_M_a.
Not able to find Knee part in embc_p_c_g_03c_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in embc_p_c_g_03c_M_ul.
Not able to find Forearm part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Pauldron_FA.
Not able to find Forearm part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Pauldron_FA.
Not able to find Knee part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Greav_K.
Not able to find Knee part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Greav_K.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Greav_UL.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in A_DarkBrotherhood_Greav_UL.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_a.
Not able to find Knee part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in RTJEB_nin_pants_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RTJEB_nin_pants_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Ankle part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_a.
Not able to find Knee part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in emc_rt_p_lea1_21_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in RTJEB_nin_pants_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in RTJEB_nin_pants_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Not able to find Knee part in rt_pants_Knee_M_k.
Not able to find Upper Leg part in rt_pants_Knee_M_ul.
Texture "Data Files\Textures\QQQQQQL_Earing_Gree.tga" count 3.
Texture "Textures\Tx_scrubplain_01.tga" count 3.
Texture "Textures\_land_default.tga" count 3.
Texture "Data Files\Textures\Q_refl_writing_dark.tga" count 3.
Texture "Textures\menu_thick_border_bottom_right_corner.dds" count 2.

How do you open ProgramFlow.txt, never heard of it. I used search and all it came up with is one that was invalid directory.

The file is located in your Morrowind folder. It should be there.

Thanks for reply on both forums, I shall reply on both also.

Lol I know you busy and everything, but.. you also basicaly saying what another person on your Emma forum said basicaly. I know it an odd issue and therefore I am not 100%, just like 90% that it has to have SOMEthing to do with Thingequin girl as I did many tests on two differnt days and the crash issue ALWAYS happened after talking to her about the quest.

As for the The duplicating and everything as said quotes from myself, "While I Was trying to verify this being the issue I causeD duplicate of at least(did not look to see if others were) Laura to appear" & "turned off their esps, started game, but caused issues with Julan so went back turned them back On". AKA I had this issue Before causing this issue, I spent 1 of the two days of testing before causing this as to prevent confusion of what could be the current issue.

Though I do know that this duplicating is Another issue and that is why I asked in an email I sent you, sorry if you did not get it or are to busy both understandable that I asked to confirm that all I have to do is use console to delete duplicate(s) and then learn and use WyreMash to clean save, because this is what you told people or possibly just certain people. I do not want to try and fix this though until I can get this issue fixed.

If it said something special on crashes, I never seen it as all it does is Crash, and brings up the normal program not responding or w/e thing.


Ok on my 3rd day of testing (today of this message), it has gotten odder... though some of it seems to just be the duplicate issue. This is what happened: did my usual testing of doing random things (quick travel, fighting, talking, persuading, and trading) saved loaded=fine as always, then went to Thing-Ah Girl saved loaded=fine again as always talked to her about quest saved loaded=fine somehow, killed the 3 men to get her lute and had her follow me outside a while and do a couple fights then saved loaded=fine again somehow, used VSA to get to Vivec Foreign Qrt. then went to see if Laura was duplicated and to my surprize she was not saved loaded= laura duplicate appeared near her house as she was "suppose to be", I then kissed the real one, to see what would happen and she seemed to vanish and duplicate toke her place in following then looked around and saw real one standing ground had her follow save load=crash (understandably). I then repeated these 3 times and got same results UP TO the vivec area where duplicate was always by her shack again (which I understand is due to turning off and on esp file) and having her follow also caused crash on save load. I then tried another thing by becoming a criminal with Thing girl following me was fine other than the thing I assume is a minor issue: Laura Craft calling me a criminal (normal you are criminal dialogue from npcs).

Sorry I did not mention this possible issue in your forum Emma or here on this forum, thought I did but only did with a differnt person I was trying to get help from. I assume and in some ways hope this is a minor thing of having Laura's dialogue saying she knows I am a criminal when I bring up conversation(I can do all the normal things with her) and not sure but on Morrowind's main quest where you have to rescue/get info from the one woman in the floating area she would not talk to me calling me a criminal (because I killed almost all the guards).

I should also note that I never used this mod before and it only warned me one time In Game throughout my many testings of the missing/not able to find things when I first discovered that Laura Craft was duped aka probably around or on the time I turned non related mods esp off and back on, also that the warning file seems random some times it says some of it other times it says barely any etc... and that I tried to see if it had anything to do with combat, quick travel, save load etc..., but seems random or maybe just takes time for it to find all these possible promblems or something ??

This is what my Program Flow Says:

000000: Program Started
000000: Computer Name: Lukas
000000: Creating Windows
000000: Begin loading of archive header and invalidation of archived files
000306: Finished with header loading and invalidation
000306: Initializing Main
000307: Video adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 (8.16.11.9107)
000510: Creating Scene
000510: Loading Master/Plugin
001225: Done Loading Master/Plugin
001225: Done Creating Scene
001428: Done Initalizing Main
001939: Loading...Loading Objects from file...
002244: Loading...Initializing Loaded Objects...
002244: Loading...Initializing Player 3D...
002244: Loading...Initializing Player Mob...
002550: Loading...Initializing Loaded References...
002652: Loading...Resetting projectiles...
002652: Loading...Resetting Spellmanager...
002652: Loading...Parsing Quests...
002652: Loading...Done.
005306: Begin Saving...
005306: ...Prepare files
005306: ...Create TES and Fill and Save header
005306: ...SAVE globals and classes
005306: ...SAVE factions
005306: ...SAVE scripts and regions
005306: ...SAVE the spells
005306: ...SAVE all objects
005306: ...SAVE all Cells and Refs
005306: ...SAVE dialogue
005307: ...Close TES and any masters
005307: SAVE COMPLETE.

Said this in reply to Emma, but figured it important to make sure anyone trying to help me reads it.

Ok on my 3rd day of testing (today of this message), it has gotten odder... though some of it seems to just be the duplicate issue. This is what happened: did my usual testing of doing random things (quick travel, fighting, talking, persuading, and trading) saved loaded=fine as always, then went to Thing-Ah Girl saved loaded=fine again as always talked to her about quest saved loaded=fine somehow, killed the 3 men to get her lute and had her follow me outside a while and do a couple fights then saved loaded=fine again somehow, used VSA to get to Vivec Foreign Qrt. then went to see if Laura was duplicated and to my surprize she was not saved loaded= laura duplicate appeared near her house as she was "suppose to be", I then kissed the real one, to see what would happen and she seemed to vanish and duplicate toke her place in following then looked around and saw real one standing ground had her follow save load=crash (understandably). I then repeated these 3 times and got same results UP TO the vivec area where duplicate was always by her shack again (which I understand is due to turning off and on esp file) and having her follow also caused crash on save load. I then tried another thing by becoming a criminal with Thing girl following me was fine other than the thing I assume is a minor issue: Laura Craft (companion mod by Emma) calling me a criminal when bringing up dialoge(normal you are criminal dialogue from npcs), but am able to still do all actions and she does nothing else differnt.

Well I used WyreMash and I got even worse from using it, These are the results:

[18,3]
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 8 Qas_rocket_green 34
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 9 Qas_rocket_orange 34
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 10 Qas_rocket_red 34
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 11 Qas_rocket_yellow 34
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 12 Qas_rocket_blue 34
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 13 Qas_rocket_green 34

[7,22]
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 7 4 11AA_Belorn00000000 47
BAD REF>>NO MASTER 7 5 11AA_Laura00000000
BAD REF>>NO MASTER 7 8 aa_comp_constance00000000

[-3,-4]
BAD REF>>NO MASTER 34 332142 ex_shore_cliffracer_lev+2

Orphaned content records:
11AA_Laura00000000
aa_comp_constance00000000
cliff racer_diseased0000005A

Now it seems to have completly screwed Constance Mod up..:

aa_con_recall, condrunk, contelepathy script, pcheckscript, stopconscript, global script aa_conalmdiv, and last the Crasher of no constance animation class.
There is also one that may not be constance, but probalby is or least one of Emma's mods? 'AA_mskills2' in which this happens on first load and the others happen on 2nd load, in other words when I do load game it would say AA_mskills2 and on 2nd time I load in game it would say the other stuff. though it seemed to like to just say the Animation thing on 2nd load and crash.

So Did Repair all Again on save and got these results:

[18,3]
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 8 Qas_rocket_green 33
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 9 Qas_rocket_orange 33
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 10 Qas_rocket_red 33
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 11 Qas_rocket_yellow 33
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 12 Qas_rocket_blue 33
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 9 13 Qas_rocket_green 33

[7,22]
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 7 4 11AA_Belorn00000000 47

[3,-9]
BAD REF>>REMATCHED 7 5 11AA_Laura00000000 47
BAD REF>>NO MASTER 19 8 aa_comp_constance00000000

Orphaned content records:
aa_comp_constance00000000

But now got Friendly group clone aa_comp_constance00000000 in load for REFR '11AA_Laura00000000, Leif, Morgana, and Julan along with constance's unable to load in playersavegame and global script aa_ConAlmDiv.

So again Did repair all, but it says 0 promblems found

I ended up loading an older save one that I did not mess with Wyremash IN the Save and am playing it.

But! I am still getting random crashes, Minor Issues where I have to mess around with companions or use console or what not, and Laura Craft's dialogue is completly bad (she says like the first few letters of first word), companion share on her causes crashes, and her duplicate is in obvious area. Though since I have plenty to do I am just having Laura stay at her place in my current playthrough. (Since I got her in decent gear beore all this though I may use her after all else I really want done is done.)

=Note: From all I read on moder etc... I think Laura Craft is just going to be an issue on the current playthrough and whenever I do new game with it should be fine=

So any help would still be appreciated if any think of something.

You have two discussions going on this, let's stick to one to avoid confusion.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1114686-wryemash-cleaning-saves/