I personally don't want one.. but I don't get why people get bent out of shape if someone else likes wands and wants to role play with them. It's a game -- you act out your fantasies. If the game was set in one specific role (i.e; you had to be a knight with a sword), how many of you would still be playing?

Except that's a dagger.

Wands are the pansiest, cheesiest, girliest thing to happen to wizards and mages. As far as I'm concerned, Gandalf got it best.

Look up a few posts.

Oh and I guess Willow and Hermes were pansies? :rolleyes:

I can see Wands being a viable option. You'd be able to have scrolls at a very low level, one-time use spells that anyone can read. Wands would be a mid-level magic vessel, storing say 15-20 uses of a spell that you don't have to be a dedicated Magicka user to be able to make use of them. Staves would be a high level item, carrying higher enchantments, maybe including a magicka requirement so that only gifted users can employ them, also carrying the possibility of being used as a melee weapon where the other two would not.

*disclaimer*

I'm not even sure that I like this idea, I can simply see it being instituted in the elder scrolls or a game with a similar rule-set.

I really like Harry Potter, but just keep wands out, and people don't just flame wands. People just wish to roleplay with them. It's along the same lines of Leafy The Dragon and people wanting to see their characters relieve themselves. Sure it's not a widely accepted idea, but some people just wish for increased immersion and roleplay.

>.< It -is- a dagger!

I wasn't talking about the WEAPON!

I was talking about the Necromancer! Who was known for using wands (as well as poisoned daggers)!

T_T ... but yes. It is a dagger.

I suppose, in retrospect, it would have better helped my case if I had picked one wielding a wand.

That is a very loose translation. His name could just as easily mean "Elf of the Staff" or more simply "Magic Elf".

I'm not really sure what to think about the one handed staffs. Are they going to need to be recharged like in Oblivion? That was the thing that really ruined enchanted weapons for me. It looks cool, but it could turn out kind of lame too.

Everything Ive ever seen or read said Wand Elf, or Elf of the Wand. Still, that doesnt really matter. It just seems people want to equate Harry Potter with wands. I didnt even know they had, or used wands in HP. It must be a kid thing? If I went around and asked my friends what the first thing that came to their minds when I say wand, no one would say Harry Potter.

I have to say wands just don't do anything for me from an aesthetic point of view.

I agree that they are kind of the "sissies" focusing device for magic as far as things are concerned.

Personally I think mages and wizards look the most badass when they just throw magic from their bare-hands rather then a staff or wand.

That all being said I don't care if they DO add wands as long as it doesn't detract from their ability to add something else that's much cooler into the game.

Yeah, I've seen that a lot. But the literal definition of "gandr" is a "magical staff or spirit", making his name literally "Staff-Elf" of "Elf of the (Magical) Staff"

i voted no because it reminds me of Harry Potter and WIzzards of Waverly Place.

but dont be bumbed im sure a good modder will ad them in. they'll just use all the same animations and such as a staff

I pretty much agree with that, I come at it from a different perspective as an ancient historian, and there have been wands in fictional literature and mythology dating back to ancient Greece and possibly earlier - for example the caduceus from Greek mythology, the snake symbol we today associate with the medical profession - was a wand, it was NOT a staff, as it was generally depicted as being shorter than Hermes's arm. Wands have been around in literature and mythology for a very long time, and to suggest they are a new idea created for a series of books for children within the last decade or so I find somewhat repugnant - and dare I say it, a little bit ignorant also.

Look at this kid tryin' to get his swish and flick on
hahhahahah
For real though, if i see some guy coming at me waving a little stick, i'll just laugh at him for being a little B1tcH and introduce him to my friend Umbra.

nuff' said

The first thing that comes to mind when I hear wand: "Willow you idiot. Change me back Willow, change me back!"

Staffs are more epic IMO. They are not petite, they are large. They suggest a certain importance and experience.

Dual wielding wands...sounds sweet.

That said, I'd just like to see more staff varients in general. Wands, staffs, larger staffs you need to hold with two hands...get some variaty into that weapon class.

Yeah, I would like to see some articulately carved staffs and some with a stone that has properties of it's own.

Wands for role-playing, wands for equality

Yes Wand Can!

Hi, I'm Wand.

Vote for me. Take a pin. :icecream: And an ice-cream.


*next person*


Hi, I'm wand.

Vote for me...

Meh, wands are for fairies (?) and conductors, and uses that shall not be named here, like the Hitachi version on youtube which I had never heard about before and now wish that I never did. Then again, maybe it's magic for some, who knows

Seriously though, and not at all for the Harry Potter connection, I'm pretty much against wands. They just seem too small to hold any significant amount of "the fabric of magic". They become magic holders without the weight (which I think should be reserved for rings and amulets of decent material quality) rather than a wooden twig. The staffs at least have some weight, a decent amount of wood, and/or a "head" which "holds the magic".

I'm not completely ruling it out, but I want a good explanation where the magic comes from and where it fits well (game) mechanically between a one handed staff and shooting through your fingers. It would have to be something that these two are not, something unique, but without appearing weird.

Bigger isn't always better guys.

Wands were never originally like staves, in that they were imbued with magic.

Wands are a CHANNELING device, in old fantasy fare... a tool through which the inner powers of the wielder are amplified and enhanced, so that, upon the successful casting, are capable of yielding power much greater than what a sorcerer / mage / wizard could usually attain on his own. When coupled with a focus object of some sort, one would typically expect wand-wielding magisters to be capable of moving mountains (literally and metaphorically) should the need arise.

Staves, in these terms, came around after the advent of the staff as a -weapon-. Mages who often went into battle would use staves to channel magic through a WEAPON, where as a wand is a tool of spellcasting alone. Staves became very ceremonial afterwards, however, as wands had before them. In this sense, they became alike, as you would seldom take a ritual staff into battle... much as you wouldn't expect to see a warrior wielding a wand.

That isn't to say it couldn't be done... but one would have to be very confident in their abilities as a spellcaster to do so.

As far as OB went (I didn't play the others) staffs were like magic cannons that blew the [censored] out of any enemy you couldn't defeat normally, at the cost of super expensive/rare "ammo". I can't really see a small stick do the same, and I think wands are lame in general (why use a dagger, when you can use a claymore?)