Wood Elves are lookin'... shady... : V - Skyrim

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:07 am

My hypothesis on why the Bosmer look so different is because of the Bretons. In Oblivion, out of all the elven races, the Bosmer looked the closest to a half man, half elf LOTR style elf. I think/hope that the revamped Bretons are going to look like a slightly toned down version of the LOTR elves and that's why they've made the Bosmer look so different. I could be totally wrong, and I probably am, but that's what I'm hoping for... I really want the Bretons to look a lot more elvish. Either way, the new Bosmer look awesome and I might actually have to play as one now...

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:42 am

You need to calibrate your monitor. Their skin does not have the same tone as dunmer. At all.

One of them has face paint that's a similar shade to redguards, but the rest of his skin is very pale. The other looks like the person who made it used the tone scales to make him tan, but there's just no way to mistake him for a dunmer.

There talking about oblivion's dunmer. not skyrims. i agree as far as they have different skin tones in skyrim, but the bosmer from skyrim shares the same skin tone as the dunmers from the previous games.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:48 am

Lore states that this is how Bosmer are SUPPOSED to look...Cannibalistic barbarians who coincide with nature...

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:19 pm

Both look like Bosmer to me so I don't see a problem. Though admittedly, the fact that a bunch of journalist who aren’t as big of TES fans as we are can’t distinguish between a Dunmer and a Bosmer doesn’t really faze me. You people worry way too much; go do something else for awhile.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:34 pm

People need to check their eyes and monitors...

Dunmer are gray-blue. GRAYISH BLUE.
NOT BROWN!

Funny thing is, this isn't the first time they've claimed Dunmer on something with slightly darker skin color...

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:24 am

I think You want wood elves to look like Generic Fantasy elves

Well There cannibals! Not Prancing Blonde elves from ........Well you know.....Hmmmmm....Lord of the rings!

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:20 pm

I didn't see another thread like this in the first four pages, so I'm assuming that I'm all good.

Alright, so it has occurred to me that the entire Bosmeri (or Wood Elven, to those who aren't hip) race has undergone dramatic skin tone changes since previous games.
Let's put our thinking caps on and recall Oblivion, where the Bosmer were white (light skinned, Caucasian, beige, 0xEAD1A5, whatever you want to call it). http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4256204229_d5be6c2350.jpg
And even further down the road was Morrowind, where the Bosmer expressed similar hues and tones to that of their Oblivion counterparts. http://www.gamebanshee.com/morrowind/races/woodelffemale.jpg
Even the http://images.uesp.net/0/0e/Lore-race-Bosmer.png for their entire race seems to have lighter skin.

So, with all that on the table, I've deducted that either the Dunmer males all died during Morrowind's unfortunate collapse and the women started breeding with only Bosmer, or the Wood Elves of Skyrim have taken on a very odd complexion, given their past.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6513/gtbosmer.jpg
Hm... Gametrailer's Bosmer, Prometheus. It's broad daylight, so you can't argue that it's dark out.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/SkyrimBosmer/p6Br1.jpg
And Ripten's Bosmer... with an undeclared name...

Let's face it, both of these guys look like Dunmer. Now, I'm not trying to be racist or whatever you might accuse me of, I'm just curious about why did they change their skin color.

They don't look anything like Dunmer. Also Wood Elves have always had a darker skin tone. Don't forget about the fact that you can change the skin tone. Also the fact that you can make them look however you want.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:05 pm

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zbdyfc.jpg A bit bluer than normal but the lightness is about right.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:02 pm

they look sly quick and with a bit of a ferocious streak just as i had hoped they would look for this game :thumbsup:
the true children of Y'ffre have risen

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:08 am

Jeez my grandmother could tell the difference between the Dunmer and Bosmer from the screenshots. Also, Bosmer do look much more tribal and lore-suiting this time around, plus you can customize them at will anyway even if your particular Bosmer wants look more "Mirkwoodish" or whatever.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:27 am

From what we have seen, the Skyrim Bosmer could have varying degrees of skin tone, but I am guessing not the blue-green-gray tones of the Dunmer.

Bosmer and Dunmer are both elves, and structurally, the Skyrim Bosmer and Dunmer seem to be somewhat similar in shape, if not also in size.

Just guessing, as I have yet to see a good screen of them, but the Altmer may have a similar look in structure, perhaps. taller, and more refined, but will probably have more of the golden hue type tones.

These races, Altmer, Dunmer, and Wood Elves are all cousins of sorts, and structure could easily be similar, (not necessarily identical) with varying heights, and skin tones. Diversity would seem to be key.

I am still hoping to see Bretons, especially females. I am curious to see if the Mer influence is shown in their build.

The female Redguard image gives me hope for good diversity in morphology for Redguards as well as the other humans.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:06 am

The journalist who made one of them, and TONS of people who didn't know it was a Bosmer before it actually was confirmed, disagrees with you.

There talking about oblivion's dunmer. not skyrims. i agree as far as they have different skin tones in skyrim, but the bosmer from skyrim shares the same skin tone as the dunmers from the previous games.

http://i.imgur.com/fr3tc.png

I have absolutely no idea how you can think those are the same color. It's really time to calibrate your monitor.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:56 pm

It matters in relation to what may be the norm in the gameworld. I hope the average Bosmer NPC doesn't look like a Dunmer.

I think they have worked very hard on making each race look unique so I doubt they would have gone let's just make these to look almost identical . we have seen two different dunmer characters and they really don't look anything like the bosmer characters shown so far

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:18 am

look at the two bosmer, now look at the two dunmer.

Dunmer have thicker brows, bigger nose, more prominent cheekbones,

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:19 pm

http://i.imgur.com/fr3tc.png

I have absolutely no idea how you can think those are the same color. It's really time to calibrate your monitor.

Lol.

The Ripten Bosmer has light/grey skin (colored red from ambient lighting). Dunmer sometimes has grey skin. It's not the same exactly, but it's a little close.

However, skin color is just one thing. There are many other things to consider. Like... red eyes, Dunmer cheekbones, Dunmer narrowed eyes, tattoo which Dunmer usually have in face, Dunmer hairstyle.

In short, if it wasn't confirmed that the Ripten Bosmer was a Bosmer and not a Dunmer, a lot of people would have thought it was a Dunmer, which was actually the case. TONS of people thought it was a Dunmer, and the journalist himself thought so as well, despite it being a Bosmer.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:38 pm

I'm glad that they don't look like their Oblivion counterparts. IMO, Bosmer in Oblivion looked ridiculous and were often very annoying.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:22 pm

I'm glad that they don't look like their Oblivion counterparts. IMO, Bosmer in Oblivion looked ridiculous and were often very annoying.

In all fairness, most races looked ridiculous and annoying in Oblivion...

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:55 am

I think the elves have differently shaped ears. Look at the pictures and compare. It looked like the two Wood Elves had the same ear type, Orcs had different ones, and the Dark Elves had a different bend to them. Any thoughts?

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:25 am

How many of you have seen the Quakecon Demo? Do you remember that Bosmer bandit who attacks the player on the road?

He looks nothing like any of the Dunmer we've seen in screenshots.

As others have said, you can make some funky looking characters with the character creator. You can make a Nord who looks more Redguard than Nord, a Dunmer with reddish skin, so on and so forth.

No need to panic just because some people didn't customize their characters in ways that you expect.

Based on the screenshots of NPCs that we've seen, you have absolutely no reason to worry.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:41 pm

The journalist randomized the character (except for the hair), and also admitted himself that he thought it looked like a Dunmer instead of a Bosmer.

Bosmer look great, but I think they look too close to Dunmer in general.

All Mer look similar. in every game, you can point out the similarities. they meant to do this. In OB, dark elves face shape looks similar to all the other Mer.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:11 pm

Why the frick people think they look like Dunmer? So now grey-blue is the same colour as varying shades of peach-brown? One is like a tanned person. The other is like a white person. Neither have ash-coloured skin. AT ALL.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:12 pm

All Mer look similar. in every game, you can point out the similarities. they meant to do this. In OB, dark elves face shape looks similar to all the other Mer.

Obviously the Ripten Bosmer looked a bit too similar. Otherwise tons of people, including the journalist himself, wouldn't have doubted that it was a Bosmer and thought it was a Dunmer.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:57 am

...the bosmer look absolutely nothing like dunmer. :mellow:

incase you didnt realize, bosmer and dunmer ears are completely different this time around.

again, i honestly dont understand how people are confusing these races... they look nothing alike to me. :shrug:

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:51 pm

Obviously the Ripten Bosmer looked a bit too similar. Otherwise tons of people, including the journalist himself, wouldn't have doubted that it was a Bosmer and thought it was a Dunmer.

Why though?

http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/bethblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/darkelf.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/SkyrimBosmer/p6Br1.jpg

Totally identical, right?

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:40 am

again, i honestly dont understand how people are confusing these races... they look nothing alike to me. :shrug:

Agreed. It really is not to hard to differentiate the two I think maybe the people who are confused don't have much grasp on the lore or only played Oblivion.