http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/3971/381129-adoring_fan_super.jpg

Imo, they look better than him up there in the linky linky, don't you think?

If a Bosmer wants to be a ripped body builder I see no reason why this sort of potential should be "played off" as "breaking the stereotypical archtypes of each race". I mean sure Nords are naturally bigger and stronger than Bosmer but to me that just adds potential for a Bosmer to become a hardy yet more agile and flexible warrior himself.

If people are still having trouble telling bosmer frm dunmer, just look at the ears, Bosmer have straight ears, Dunmer ears are bent.

Because I'm too lazy to quote people.

A. I said they look like Dunmer because in Oblivion, gamesas had the great idea of making Dunmer green, when according to Lore, they are ash colored, gray, or blueish.
B. Just because they don't look like Dunmer to you does not mean they look like regular Bosmer either. My main point is that they don't look the same anymore.
C. My monitor is calibrated. Chill out, it was a subjective statement.
D. Skin tone does matter. Just because Oblivion gave you the ability to make an orc pink does not mean Orcs can logically be pink. Orcs, if I remember correctly, were green elves that were cursed to become ugly, or something like that. Dunmer were cursed by Azura to have ash -gray skin and red eyes. Every race has consistency in it's appearances, like someone said earlier.

Not always short, anyway. In Daggerfall and Arena they were described as tall.

And the Dunmer in Dagerfall where brown-skinned, the Khajiit where actually cat people in Arena, and the Argonians where man-lizards in the same game. Arena and Daggerfall where really just typical fantasy games with typical fantasy tropes. It was only in Redguard and Morrowind that Bethesda really separated their world from all other fantasy games.

eh i didn't say anything because i though it was just me but Bosmer do look like Dunmer
i also fear Imperials look very similar to nords :shakehead:

First, the Bosmer screenshots Were journalits characters, In the E3 Demo, you can see a proper Bosmer with normal skin color, Also Imperial,Nords and Redguard are all Humanoid, There's not much you can do to make them look different, Btw we haven't even seen an Imperial yet.

I think the Dunmer are the most powerfully built elves in TES, at least the most athletic.

Funny, about the same time Todd Howard started leading the projects.

While I can't seem to state what the differences are in the images. I can tell the dark elf and wood elf apart in their photos. Wood elfs are taking some getting use too. So different.

Thy look completely different where are 2 comparisons

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/525/bosmerdunmer.jpg http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9758/bosmerdunmer1.jpg

Ignore the skin tone of the second comparison for a second.. and see the facial differences of the races.

One thing i noticed is that their ears are smaller than the dunmer's.

Nah, they weren't brown skinned. Three were miscolored, the rest were appropriately gray. I don't know where you're going with the rest of your statement. Are you saying short wood elves are less fantasy tropes somehow? Aren't wood elves short in every fantasy that has wood elves? And if you think it was only in Redguard and Morrowind that separated TES from other fantasy games, you must have a warped perspective of other fantasy games. :tongue:

I think not. You can change your character's body type. Obviously somebody picked a heavy build for that Bosmer.

It doesn't matter. A muscular person of a short height should not have a torso just as bulky and wide as that of a tall, muscular person. Body proportions should be taken into account.

mhm!

That picture linked looks nothing like Bulky McGreyskin.

You humans are all racist! /turian

:tongue:

I think the redesign looks great.

Yup, the Bosmer have straight pointed ears where as the Dunmer have curved pointed ears.

Uhh, in what parallel universe do you live in that short people have less bulk? Short stocky builds are extremely common, especially in humans that have evolved to live within cold environments.

Another thing I didn't mention about exhibit A, the bosmer looks simply like a dwarf with elf ears, this is just unacceptable. :confused:

I like how they look, but I hope they are still shortest characters in TES5

I live in the modern universe where short people are not nearly that bulky. Wood Elves are not adapted to cold environments. Those would be the tall Nords and the short/bulky, yet extinct, Neanderthals. It's true that creatures living in colder areas tend to become shorter and bulkier both to save energy and conserve heat, but neither of these things need to apply to the Wood Elves. We're discussing a video game and it's simply reality that Bethesda are using one mesh for all 10 races. Explaining away inherent limitations posed by a lack of accommodation doesn't change that.

of course
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/Nakanja/ES/dunmer2.jpg
Besides this one even have red eyes, too strange for Bosmer,
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8613775/Skyrim/SkyrimBosmer/p6Br1.jpg
Its looks like too much shared assets between races perhaps because this is beta and many parts are placeholders, or such strange bosmers are result of extensive work in face gen like white redguards in Oblivion if play with sliders too much.
I hope in final release races will have more unique assets, and we will not end with same meshes and textures while races will have difference in skin tones and face morphs.