Wooden Bows

Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:39 pm

But those were the ones that made the least sense since glass doesn't really bend that well...
Ahem... http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/fiberoptics3.jpg

That said, I agree, but they could be compound bows I suppose. :shrug:
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:15 pm

^ this. I wish people would stop equating things in a video game to things in real life. It could be a special, flexible glass *which exist in real life*, it could be elemental glass *this is a video game* etc.

Yes, also they use ceramic armor today in body armor capable of stopping rifle bullets.

But I mostly agree in wooden bows, however you also have composite bows who is better than wood but far more expensive/ harder to make. Traditional composite bows use wood and horn, but you could also use other materials.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:01 am

^ this. I wish people would stop equating things in a video game to things in real life. It could be a special, flexible glass *which exist in real life*, it could be elemental glass *this is a video game* etc.

It's not too flexible when used as any other weapon.

Also, to the person who said ebony, it's also not real ebony.

But I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. Better bows should be made of stronger, more expensive wood.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:03 am

It's not too flexible when used as any other weapon.

Also, to the person who said ebony, it's also not real ebony.

But I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. Better bows should be made of stronger, more expensive wood.


And ivory, don't forget ivory :D

Mammoths seem to be in skyrim so I'd imagine people would use the tusks for something. An engraved ivory bow just screams class.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:25 pm

And ivory, don't forget ivory :D

Mammoths seem to be in skyrim so I'd imagine people would use the tusks for something. An engraved ivory bow just screams class.

And have a nowstring made from one of a dragons tendons.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:28 pm

Prove to me why daedric metal shouldn't be able to bend like a bow, and then I'll think about it. :P

These things don't need to be realistic, they need to be believable and I can believe such things like glass and ebony bows working quite well.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:59 pm

And have a nowstring made from one of a dragons tendons.


Yeah, see, there's innovation.

I can deal with stuff that doesn't make any sense, but if it can make sense and you can make something cooler while you're at it, then you may as well.

Prove to me why daedric metal shouldn't be able to bend like a bow, and then I'll think about it. :P

These things don't need to be realistic, they need to be believable and I can believe such things like glass and ebony bows working quite well.


Believability is the lesser of two points. I'd just like to see bows that aren't marked in the same tier as blunt and bladed weaponry, considering they are not the same anyways...
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:17 pm

Ahem... http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/fiberoptics3.jpg

That said, I agree, but they could be compound bows I suppose. :shrug:
Well, that's more like plastic with glass insets.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:09 pm

Prove to me why daedric metal shouldn't be able to bend like a bow, and then I'll think about it. :P

These things don't need to be realistic, they need to be believable and I can believe such things like glass and ebony bows working quite well.

Daedric is just ebony with the souls of daedra infused into it, so I think in the context of the game, it makes sense
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:18 pm

Daedric is just ebony with the souls of daedra infused into it, so I think in the context of the game, it makes sense
Then why are the weights different? And why can you further enchant the armor?
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:10 pm

Metal types and Glass in general tend to bend once, but not bend back to its original shape, this is why bows in morrowind and oblivion just don't work out... various types of wood and materials that would actually logically work sound much more in order.

what happened to crossbows people?!
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:26 am

Daedric is just ebony with the souls of daedra infused into it, so I think in the context of the game, it makes sense



Then why are the weights different? And why can you further enchant the armor?


the souls are very heavy... "Daedric armor is often known to bear a curse; or have a daedra spirit forged into its unholy plates. The process is not a pleasant one for the Daedra involved, and the armor pieces often retain echoes of preternaturally prolonged suffering endured during manufacture. " "...Daedric armor and weapons are created from Ebony, the supernaturally strong metal that is mined almost exclusively from the volcanic island of Vvardenfell, in the province of Morrowind. After the forging process, a conjurer then summons a lesser Daedra and binds its soul into the object. For the rest of eternity, this malevolent being is trapped within the cool metal, and those who wield such armaments swear they can sometimes hear their tormented moans.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:32 am

Yea, good idea, i hope they dont have glass armour at all, wood bows are much better, bow are going to be my weapon of choice
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:49 pm

A bow doesn't need to be wood or bend to be effective as long as the design provides the necessary tension and accuracy needed. I always assumed the glass bows were very dense and high temper, that's whey never shattered. Bows that bend are typically easier to pull, while something made of solid steel or glass would be more difficult. Even a real bow made of solid wood does not bend a lot, compound bows are made of composite materials so they bend more, they also have pulleys to assist with drawing for longer periods of time without causing fatigue.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:44 pm

Something that irked me in Oblivion (and Daggerfall, and morrowind to some extent.. really every game) is that all the bows are either made of metal or volcanic glass (glass, ebony) it doesn't really make any sense, and I think a variety of wooden/bone bows would be cooler.

For instance, your basic "beginner bow" could be made of yew, elk bone with tendon string, whereas the higher echelons could be engraved Mammoth Ivory bows or Argonian Black-Wood bows and stuff of that sort. Daedric bows could just be made of Harrada or some sort of deformed tree that grows on the surface of Oblivion, either that or just a really high quality bow with a daedra bound to it.

It just didn't make any sense that bows were made of metal and glass just so they could match the other weapons, IMO wooden bows would be a lot better and more creative.

1. Ebony isn't volcanic glass, it is a dense black wood.
2. Glass is basically obsidian. So at least glass arrows made sense. But I'll be damned if I loose me glass equipment. Coolest crap from all the games.

3. (Don't hurt me) A beginner bow cant be made of yew, you need lvl 40 ranged to use it... (Ok, who gets that?)

4. Daedric is a "demonic" material, so it should be able to be used for anything, no matter how impractical.

@ archmage: The pullys on compound bows are also for power, as they allow for much more stored energy to be transfered to the arrow. So its a double-whammy system benefitting the archer in 2 ways. Love them bows.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:59 pm

Perfect Amber Bow is my favorite. Great for enchanting.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:05 pm

1. Ebony isn't volcanic glass, it is a dense black wood.

Not in TES it's not.

3. (Don't hurt me) A beginner bow cant be made of yew, you need lvl 40 ranged to use it... (Ok, who gets that?)

I did! I used to play runescape when I was 12. Got up to level 53!
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:37 pm

the souls are very heavy... "Daedric armor is often known to bear a curse; or have a daedra spirit forged into its unholy plates. The process is not a pleasant one for the Daedra involved, and the armor pieces often retain echoes of preternaturally prolonged suffering endured during manufacture. " "...Daedric armor and weapons are created from Ebony, the supernaturally strong metal that is mined almost exclusively from the volcanic island of Vvardenfell, in the province of Morrowind. After the forging process, a conjurer then summons a lesser Daedra and binds its soul into the object. For the rest of eternity, this malevolent being is trapped within the cool metal, and those who wield such armaments swear they can sometimes hear their tormented moans.

HAHA! Then why do daedra wear Daedric armour? Lol.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:03 pm

HAHA! Then why do daedra wear Daedric armour? Lol.

Dremora do the same thing..... just look it up yourself ok. :banghead: :turtle: :turtle: :turtle: :turtle: :turtle:
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:22 pm

Not in TES it's not.


I did! I used to play runescape when I was 12. Got up to level 53!

Even in TES its not volcanic. Its a metal ore.

And... ~60 here XD so ashamed...
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:21 pm

This should settle it: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ebony
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:23 am

Dremora do the same thing..... just look it up yourself ok. :banghead: :turtle: :turtle: :turtle: :turtle: :turtle:

So they just casuallyleave Oblivion and go visit Morrowind to get them some ebony?
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:51 am

Ebony is an "extremely hard, durable, black glass-like substance, said to be the crystallized blood of the gods"
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:10 pm

Ebony is an "extremely hard, durable, black glass-like substance, said to be the crystallized blood of the gods"

The problem is, if it were glass, that would make it... glass, and glass is not crystallized, and it only says "glass-like". Overall it is very vague as to what the material truly is.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:02 pm

The problem is, if it were glass, that would make it... glass, and glass is not crystallized, and it only says "glass-like". Overall it is very vague as to what the material truly is.

It's http://www.mannais.org/index.php/faq_answer/so_this_is_manna/, gods' blood, meaning don't ask. :shrug:
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