Wooden Bows

Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:13 pm

So they just casuallyleave Oblivion and go visit Morrowind to get them some ebony?

I'm not responding to that. :cry: :cry:
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:44 pm

Overall it is very vague as to what the material truly is.

Yep. I just assume it is a "glass-like" crystalline topaz metamorph of some kind. It's fiction, so it doesn't matter all that much.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:02 pm

I'm not responding to that. :cry: :cry:

Well, please explain how the beings stuck forever in the realms of Oblivion manage to get a material from Vvardenfell.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:07 am

Well, please explain how the beings stuck forever in the realms of Oblivion manage to get a material from Vvardenfell.


I would say that daedric beings can get ebony from daedric realms.

Vvardenfel is obviously the primary location for men and mer to get ebony.

Remeber, Daedra are not restricted by the same rules and limitations as the mortal races.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:46 pm



3. (Don't hurt me) A beginner bow cant be made of yew, you need lvl 40 ranged to use it... (Ok, who gets that?)



i suggest starting with a basic wood bow the going to oak followed by willow from there you will have the skill to use maple and if you pay your dues you can use yew ( and magic if your into that) :foodndrink:

ya i uh still play lev 131 ftw
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:21 pm

They need to get more creative with bows. There are plenty of types of wood you can use for the various bows. There are also varying types of Horn and sinew they can use. Oak bow, Horker tusk bow, etc.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:57 am

They need to get more creative with bows. There are plenty of types of wood you can use for the various bows. There are also varying types of Horn and sinew they can use.


i like this idea maybe woodcut a tree then craft the bow with crafting skill
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:16 pm

i like this idea maybe woodcut a tree then craft the bow with crafting skill

If they have that they'll probably lump it with smithing.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:08 pm

...glass bows aren't the only bows in Oblivion or Morrowind. That's just..one type among many.


True, there were also silver bows and steel bows and such...

Yes, I think it would make sense to see some wooden bows, bows don't necessarily have to follow the same progression of materials as other weapons, you can have instead have different types of wood, each with different qualities, and have higher quality wood make for better bows. This way, you still get the material based progression while not having bows made out of metal all over the place.

The problem is, if it were glass, that would make it... glass, and glass is not crystallized, and it only says "glass-like". Overall it is very vague as to what the material truly is.


I think they mean "glass-like" as in like the kind of glass weapons and armor are made out of, and not like the glass you see in you're window, and said Elder Scrolls glass looked crystaline in Morrowind to me. Alternately, Bethesda perhaps just didn't do their research.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:10 pm

If they have that they'll probably lump it with smithing.


true now noone shoot me for saying this but be able to reinforce it with metal or make a metal grip for it
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:37 pm

I think there is better examples than the glass bow. It looks like the core of the bow is some type of wood that have been enhanced with glass. Daedric, Ebony and Silver bows looks like better examples. Other than that I agree.
http://images.uesp.net//1/16/OB-items-Bows.jpg
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:15 am

Well, please explain how the beings stuck forever in the realms of Oblivion manage to get a material from Vvardenfell.


Daedra don't use ebony for their armor, all of these misconceptions comes from the fact that beth decided that we for some reason were to be allowed to loot daedric armor from the dremora in oblivion, however lorewise, the daedric armor used by the dremora are actually their skin, and the process of making daedric armor on tamriel is just a means to try and recreate the toughness naturally present in dremora, by taking their souls and infusing into armor, which also gives the armor the same look as dremora skin.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:57 pm

true now noone shoot me for saying this but be able to reinforce it with metal or make a metal grip for it

That seems reasonable, though I'd prefer if they didn't classify the whole bow by it's grip.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:45 pm

Bows should be wooden, but with all kinds of "stuff" to make it "look better".
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:22 am

But those were the ones that made the least sense since glass doesn't really bend that well...

Glass in a volcanic mineral in Nirn, Ebony is a metal. They are not the stuff seen in the real world. But I agree that bows can't be done out of 100% metal or anything similar, there needs to be different types of woods in Skyrim for bows specificly, because those wooden things cannot be used in any other weapons. Maybe we'll see birch tree bow reinforced with glass or something along that line. But if the materails were magically made flexible, they could give quite a punch.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:54 pm

...glass bows aren't the only bows in Oblivion or Morrowind. That's just..one type among many.


A single bird crap on a cake will ruin it.

Just so we all know... The Glass in TES is NOT the same as actual glass.


:facepalm:

Anyway, I agree with the OP.
For all people who say stuff like 'this is fantasy', they are wrong.
While TES is fantasy, BGS still tries to make it somewhat realistic and making bows out of glass is not realistic at all.
Unless someone gives me a link where it says that TES glass has flexible properties, I call all that glass bow stuff just to be one pile of nonsense.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:25 pm

After scouring the imperial library for a bit I came upon this tidbit of info from the book http://www.imperial-library.info/content/oblivion-manual-arms from Oblivion.
Bows can be made with laminated cores of the same materials. This provides a higher tensile strength and therefore greater power on the draw.

I think this will serve to explain what is meant with many of the types of bows being "silver" or "glass", however, as many have also stated, it doesn't rule out that some bows such as Daedric are made completely from daedra-soul-infused ebony, seeing as we have no way of knowing it's various properties, especially considering there's heavy magic manipulation involved.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:36 pm

Glass in a volcanic mineral in Nirn, Ebony is a metal. They are not the stuff seen in the real world. But I agree that bows can't be done out of 100% metal or anything similar, there needs to be different types of woods in Skyrim for bows specificly, because those wooden things cannot be used in any other weapons. Maybe we'll see birch tree bow reinforced with glass or something along that line. But if the materails were magically made flexible, they could give quite a punch.


Isn't ebony the hardest of woods?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebony
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:52 am

iron and steel bows seemed to have wood limbs and ebony is a dark wood obsidian is volcanic glass

EDIT: the bow in the trailer looked all wood to me

TES ebony is volcanic glass.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:37 pm

There were like... 2 wooden boys. The iron bow and the rusty bow. The steel bow, silver, everything beyond that was entirely cased in metal, which makes no sense.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:36 pm

Wow, I had no idea that this would be such a huge topic or discussion. Goodness.

It's a fantasy game, people. That doesn't mean we have to check realism at the door, but it does mean that from time to time you'll have to just suspend disbelief. Glass bows, whatever glass is in TES games, are believed to be cool by the creators of the game (and me as well). If you really think they're too unbelievable, just don't use them. I hate fast-travel, so I don't use it. Problem solved.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:51 pm

there should be no reason for ebony or glass or silver bows anyway.

Ebony is a type of wood, broski.
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:18 am

As an archer who owns a laminated bow of three types of wood (hickory, opepe, and massaranduba), I have seen and used various bows of many different materials, which also included bows with fiberglass on the back (as backing). As was stated before, pine isn't normally used because it is soft and brittle, but it can be used when laminated. Using the technique of lamination, uncountably many types and makes of bows can be made. But overall, I'd like to see bows not being classified according to armour.
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Post » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:34 pm

Ebony is a type of wood, broski.


Not in TES. There, it's a mineral. But as glass, it's a Tamrielic, magical mineral.

I think that the Devs now better than us if their glass and their ebony can be used to make bows, don't you think?
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Post » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:13 am

Not in TES. There, it's a mineral. But as glass, it's a Tamrielic, magical mineral.

I think that the Devs now better than us if their glass and their ebony can be used to make bows, don't you think?

then why are we [censored]ing about materials if they have no significant footing in the actual world, we don't know the properties of the material, this game takes place on a different planet with magic fireballs getting thrown around, seems kinda silly to have a big ol hissy fit over bows not being correct when we really have no idea how the hell this crap works in the magical fantasy world of TES.
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