But you have to remember Fallout is what people of the 1950s though the future would look like nuked to hell. People thought we would have cold fusion in the future. People back then, when they thought of Hydrogen they most likey thought of Hydrogen bombs or Hindenburg, not running their cars on it.

haha you mean fusion?
thats what those bombs did.
Fusion is also the same process as MF cells use to generate poer, internally.. theyre just cold.

its the same difference, really. just cold fusion is more elusive. i will concede that its more Science!-ey though.

I agree Cold Fusion is a great example of Science! but thats what the people of the 1950s thought the future would bring. They thought we would have Robots and Cold Fusion but with the 1950s theme. Look at popular 1950s Sci-Fi. People thought we would have Robots, they had no idea how the would work but they thought we would have them. They did not think we would have micro chips and computers that can fit in our pocket. Fallout is that but in a nuclear wasteland. Robots with AI but built using Vaccum tubes.

Fallout is not our time with our tech its 1950s tech mixed with Science! to be the 1950s vision of the future. Things like Robots and AI can't be explained its just Science! Some how people managed to figure out how make AI with Vacuum tubes.

No they were called Hydrogen Bombs, becauce they used hydrogen but technically the process was fusing hydrogen.

well versed in the concept, already. :foodndrink:

What i am saying is that Fallout DID utilize both styles of fusion,both hot and cold.. hot in the A-Bombs and cold in MF cells.
You dont need to exclude hydrogen as a possible fuel source, its not "our time" its included in fallout history.

True, hydrogen can't be ruled out as a fuel source. Brotherhood used it for their zeppelins. Someone could figure out how to power cars with it.

My point is why? They have cars that run on MF cells and Cars that run on bio-fuel. Before the Great War MF Cell cars were the tops. Electric and therefore environmentally fiendly. No need to worry about Gas anymore. Still Uranium was also running out and MF was still a new tech, which is why there arn't that many different Energy Weapons.

brotherhood zeppelins didnt use hydrogen for a fuel source, but as a lighter than air inflatant- like they did in our universe as well as the fallout universe in the 1930's (before the divergence). The hydrogen bomb also was just that. a gaint fuel source.. only instead of attaching a load that carries out work, via steam power, the energy is dissipated into the atmosphere.

and between the 1930's and 2077, i should think Hydrogen was used for automobiles. and, they were:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Oil read under cheaper fuel.

The answer to your question of "why?" because, everything was running out.. why wouldnt ya SCIENCE! minded community not?

You are aware that MF cells are not batteries, but are nuclear reactors, right? niether here or there. but..

Hydrogen is lighter than Air :facepalm:

Its easy to produce then other lighter than air gasses such as Helium. Its just Hydrogen has a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54rqDh2mWA

Germans were forced to use Hydrogen because America and other countries stopped giving Germany Helium, due to the whole Nazi thing. Helium is alot harder to make and the Germans did not have the equipment to produce enough of it.

indeed it does. which beings me back to my initial statement about on demand hydrigen.

So do tiny nuclear reactors, gasoline, biofuels etc.... :facepalm:

Yeah but you can't fuel (Fill up) a zepplin with gasoline or biofuels lol

I agree Nuclear reactors have a major downside and its why I think it was stupid of Bethesda to add them to the Fallout Universe.

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MF cells ARE mini nuclear reactors

I don t belive this one bit. I saw it was on fire, but the crew appeared to remain ready until other units came to put out the small fire on the rear of the tank. We have never lost even 1 of those tanks to enemy fire. Though we haven t fought anyone with modern tanks with them. The Soviet T-72 doesn t cut it.

Sure it was funny, but those people didn t stroll down to the air port and see 10 of their RG T-72s all burnt outwith dead men all over. lol

Cold Fusion and they don't blow up when you shoot them. They go into an electric car. MF Cell = Science! batteries

Fallout 3 has cars with a built in reactor IE a hot nuclear reaction that goes BOOM! Fallout 3 Cars = Michael Bay!

I'm sorry but you can unfortunately not make 100% efficient microfusion cells. SO Cold Fusion on the FO Universe is dumb anyways but we are not here to discuss that.

How do you know MF's are Cold Fusion. ANd I believe you can still blow up a Fusion Reactor Specifically because there is Nuclear Material that is unstable.

Maybe we shouldn't be making such broad assumptions on how fusion works guys, seeing as how even in our world we still don't have it working efficently.

Would just like to let you know being 100% efficient in energy is impssible.

It does not matter if you think Cold Fusion is stupid. Fallout is based on "Science!" when it comes to technology. The people thought we would have cold fusion so in the fallout universe there is Cold Fusion.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_of_Eden_Creation_Kit there used to be a section about Cold Fusion on the wiki but I can't find it.

Well with in 3 days of leaving Kuwait coming under attack a few times, they were driving around in Baghdad. Must not have got held up too bad. The only tank reported I heard that was "taken out" in Iraq was when a driver fell asleep, because he was up for 3 days straight and drove it into one of the rivers. The crew was lost, but not the tank. They repair them here in Ohio. Ready for another bloody chapter in human history.

On fire or detreaded is not "taken out"

Only somthing that equals it like the British Challenger ll or some other tanks that shoot saber rounds, or really really good anti tank rockets or missles or aircraft can "take them out"

A little fire "took it out"lol They showed that on tv here too. Didn t look "taken out"

Funny, I never said it didn't, I was refering to your statements on fusion reactors exploding which, I assume, is based on the fact that H-Bombs explode right? Regardess,argueing about such matters is really out of any of our leagues, I don't know for definate if fusion reactors explode but I would doubt it; then again, I fully admit knowing little about fusoin aside from the brie, laymans generalisation that it involves the fusing of Hydrogen atoms.

I guess i just didnt really see the F3 cars as having a hot reactor.. rather that them exploding was just plain wrong.

It's called sitting in the same spot for 200+ years. I think the Reactor would have left the building as soon as you hit it.

Well hopefully Fallout 4 will do away with exploding cars and as fans we can just see it as a mistake. Bethesda's first shot at a fallout so one small mistake like that can be forgiven. If they keep with the exploding cars we have to go with the idea that there are cars with hot reactors and ones that run on MF Cells IE electric car.

Its called a high speed car crash, which would also cause a damn nuclear explosion which would cause a chain reaction causing every car on the interstate to blow up. Also one would think after 200 years the reactor would just shut down as a safety measure.

There is the time split thing. A sherman would use a lot less fuel.

It would just have to have updated armour, but look like a sherman.

I don t think ethanol is a joke. It would be alot more wide spread it anyone was serious about it. We got a big 55 gallon tank of that stuff to run our tractors. They ran really go at first, but they were not set up to run that stuff. It eventualy messed up the carburetors, and we stopped useing it. I still put it in my car didn t want it to go waste. Though I made sure there was more gas than co-op ethanol in there. Just to be sure.....