I'm Worried,....... : Othor Games

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:24 am

yea, i noticed that in COD and such, EVERYONE uses ~~assault rifles~~ AK-74U. i UNDERSTAND why since assault rifles are best for any situation, but it's not cool for everyone to use them. i like brink because it is TEAM based and there are certain body types required for certain events and certain weapons, etc.
i personally ONLY (well rarely use anything else) use SMGs and SHOTTYS <3

Fix'd :brokencomputer:

Anyway i'm not too worried about the body tyoes. All can aim at the same speed

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:21 am

Run past the heavies. Go higher than the mediums. That is assuming your light body type.

I think that this will be the difference between other FPS's

There are a multitude of different characters you can be.. Each will have a different styles of fighting.
Example: Say a team is nothing but heavies. Have a few meds run decoy and get some light bodytypes up high with long rifles?

Or it could be the exact opposite.. a bunch of lights that run everywhere like mad men, get some heavies with miniguns.. spray and pray?
These are only two examples..

AR's may be a very generic gun.. and we all know they'll be used. A lot. But there will be weakness somewhere. Just find it.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:23 pm

Funny thing I think there are what 6 AR's. I am sure each one will cater to a certain style.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:59 am

You know what? I'm gonna play a Heavy with an smg and a pistol with no attachments whatsoever. My abilities are all gonna be universal too.

FEAR ME! :evil:

EDIT: I probably should mention that I said this to fix the Heavy/LMG and AR problem you seem to believe will happen (Who knows it might too.)

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:39 pm

in theory i can see groups of heavy soilders and medics moving around together to be fairly unstoppable. They can probably rush any objective throw ammo and health/ revives at each other, take more damage and just outlast and punish enemies using medium and light body types.

maybe sniper tactics and ranged shooting can defend against this, but if the maps are too small and heavies can carry decent AR's then not even this will help.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:11 pm

#1- Assault Rifles & the Medium body type will be overused & make the other archetypes scarce. Ever play Call of Duty? You see how everyone uses AR's? That's what i mean. Generally because Assault Rifles are so versatile is the undoing of the other guns.

#2- Heavies will be abused. Think about it, an entire team of heavies with chain guns & GL's........urgh.

Hopefully this is not the case, as I'd hate for Brink to suffer this fate!

If I'm mislead & mistaken anywhere in my diagnosis, please tell me.

i dont think the heavies will be abused the chain guns got there downs like no to hardly any attachments, painfully slow moving, inability to use the S.M.A.R.T tactics due to weight, cant aim, the only way they can aim is using the m249 SAW. But all the other down are there to except the limited attachments so i think heavy wont be over abused but, idk about medium with assault.... :disguise:

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:42 pm

I figure it'll be mighty hard to run past a guy with a minigun, even if you're the fastest class in the game. Team Fortress 2 taught me that the hard way.

Lights can outrun an engineers turret, which I assume rotates faster than a heavy..Let's think about this. SD has been developing this for years now. I'm sure they have all the kinks worked out.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:23 am

Lights can outrun an engineers turret, which I assume rotates faster than a heavy..Let's think about this. SD has been developing this for years now. I'm sure they have all the kinks worked out.

After 3 years of playtesting they better. :celebration:

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:22 am

Oh boy, I'm looking forward to that! : D

I'd imagine we all are :mohawk:

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:49 am

Based on my personal theories (backed up by information gathered from various polls from this and other brink-based sites), lights will be overused -much to my amusemant- not heavies. I am by no means defending Call of Doody, but the reason that assault rifles are used so much is simply because they are so versatile. There's nothing wrong with choosing a weapon that performs well in most given scenarios. This is not a game where players should focus on killing other members of the enemy team (a recent instructional vid even encouraged players to move more than shoot); each body and weapon type will have advantages and disadvantages at any given period of time. Yes, an enemy team can have all heavies and chainguns, but that just means a team of all lights can get to objective areas/capture command posts faster and set up defenses. A heavy soldier who shows up on the field will be the dominant force in that firefight - as he should be. That doesn't mean he's overpowered for choosing to specialize in that area of the game. Since Brink is not team deathmatch, comparing body and weapon types and listing some as superior to others cannot be done with any degree of validity.

I'm using a light body type, but according to polls, Mediums will be overused. My resistance guy (If i ever decide to use him) will be a Heavy body type.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:10 am

#1- Assault Rifles & the Medium body type will be overused & make the other archetypes scarce. Ever play Call of Duty? You see how everyone uses AR's? That's what i mean. Generally because Assault Rifles are so versatile is the undoing of the other guns.

#2- Heavies will be abused. Think about it, an entire team of heavies with chain guns & GL's........urgh.

Hopefully this is not the case, as I'd hate for Brink to suffer this fate!

If I'm mislead & mistaken anywhere in my diagnosis, please tell me.

Yea ,but what if there is an objective that only a light can get too. I think the game will be balance in a way that you have't use all the body types.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:16 am

Yea ,but what if there is an objective that only a light can get too. I think the game will be balance in a way that you have't use all the body types.

You cant change body types during a game, but you can inbetween missions,
Its been stated by devs that there are no "light exclusive" areas, it was also said objectives will be easily accessible by all body types.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:55 am

You cant change body types during a game, but you can inbetween missions,
Its been stated by devs that there are no "light exclusive" areas, it was also said objectives will be easily accessible by all body types.

If that's true then the Lights use has gone out the window.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:36 pm

If that's true then the Lights use has gone out the window.

They could never have light only objectives because if you team did not pick one at the beginning then you team would automatically lose not to mention for the first lvs of the game (when you cant even pick light body types yet) you would be screwed.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:07 pm

tbh I'll start out with an assult riffle and see where it takes me, depends what im comfortable with

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:38 am

They could never have light only objectives because if you team did not pick one at the beginning then you team would automatically lose not to mention for the first lvs of the game (when you cant even pick light body types yet) you would be screwed.

True, but I didn't mean every objective as light only, just some. Pyrishima said that all objectives would not be subject to body types. So it's a mute point any way.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:16 am

It's kind of hard to spam anything when there's always a counter. Look at how balanced the Battlefield series has gotten. Enemy team spamming medics? Vehicles will annihilate them. Too much Recon? Nothing gets accomplished at all. Don't worry. Be happy :tongue:

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:11 am

i think that it will be balanced because (hopefully) there will only be able to be a certin amount of body types in a team like 2 heavies 5 mediums and 7 lights (just an example not real numbers) you also got to rule in their flaws: heavy- slow, cant make it over high objects, medium- lower helth and cant use AS powerful guns, light- low health, can only use light weapons. so i think it will be fairly balanced. and remember when in doubt team up! (or make a automated turret)

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:32 am

#1- Assault Rifles & the Medium body type will be overused & make the other archetypes scarce. Ever play Call of Duty? You see how everyone uses AR's? That's what i mean. Generally because Assault Rifles are so versatile is the undoing of the other guns.

#2- Heavies will be abused. Think about it, an entire team of heavies with chain guns & GL's........urgh.

Hopefully this is not the case, as I'd hate for Brink to suffer this fate!

If I'm mislead & mistaken anywhere in my diagnosis, please tell me.

You forgot this one

#3- Lights will be abused, think about it, an entire team of lights with wall hoping & Fast running..... Urgh.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:27 pm

I've heard there will be Light-only areas, and Light-only paths to objectives, but there definitely WON'T be any objectives out of the reach of a Heavy.

Also, with the game balanced, the only way LIghts or heavies will be "abused" is if they're used against a team that doesn't know how to effectively counter them.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:46 am

Honestly, I think this will mostly be solved with the level unlocks for the light and heavy types. I know it's annoying to some people, but this way people can get used to the game and some features of SMART before specializing in a body type if they want to. More to the point, though, people can say what they want to play now but when they're forced to play medium a lot of people will probably end up being content with how their character is at level 5. Though, I do expect a small spike when everybody basically unlocks a body type at the same time. Am I making sense or talking in circles? :glare:

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:55 am

how about dont worry about what the other guys is using and just shoot your guns at them
:gun: