Problem with Synths is that their not just a new faction, but a whole new thing... They really need more of a dedicated backstory and ongoing story because their awesome and people like things more if they know more about them. Its hard to like them when there isnt much to them, they just seem shoehorned which isnt the Fallout Style we have come to know and love.

The lack of weapon degradation is really sad , but i have hope that a mod will change this (if no one does I 'm going to do it).
Fallout 4 is a GOOD game .. and i can see only good things comming in the future (DLC)

Obviously the worst Fallout game is Brotherhood of Steel.

Definitely the best, so far. Loved 3, but this is a bit better. Never played 1 and 2. Turn based gameplay is stupid for a video game. If I want turn based I'll play chess or dust off my old paper and pencil stuff. And never could get into NV. Boring, poor setting, and just seemed tidious

You mean the more dynamic game with meaningful choices and consequences, well-written quests, and actual RPG mechanics (albeit in a crap FP engine) created by a company who at the time contained people responsible for the original games including the guy who wrote the Fallout bible? Yes. Honestly.

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Honestly this should just go without saying...

I think the Civilization games and the Galactic Civ games are fantastic and they are turn based.

Yes. That one. You know, the one where all you did was talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and get chased around for the first 1/4 of the game because you don't like slavers that completely forgive you. No one is likeable. It's laughably easy to become basically a God in settlements and you, as a Courier have absolutely no reason to be involved in any of it at all.

I found it boring, pedantic and pointless. I did like some of the mechanics over F3, yes, but, other than that, it was hard to give a fig about any of it.

[censored] no. Fallout 4 completely throws f3 out of the water IMO.

Oh, ok. Guess I should have consulted you back in '98 when I was discovering and falling in love with the series. Funny thing: if you stroll around the internet you'll find that die-hard fans of the first two games tend to prefer FO:NV over Fallout 3. Now I wonder why that might be...

Fallout 4 is amazing and definetly the best fallout game yet

Hmm. I prefer NPC's who have meaningful stories to tell and listening to them talk and talk and talk.

I guess some people don't like amazing stories or great stories to be told and listened to?

Not my cup of tea. I love turn based games, started with the expert D&D box set back in the early to mid 80's. Played lots of different ones, including ones most people have probably never even heard of. Grew up on that stuff. But never thought it was fun on a PC.

Its got some major improvements, but then its also got that dialogue system ive harped on about a whole bunch. No need to repeat that.

Its easily game of the year for me, but then its Bethesda and they make the best open world roleplaying games that I can find. Will it be game of the decade, beating out Skyrim, New Vegas and maybe TES VI in the 2010s? Unsure. Fallout 4 has a lot of elements to it that I think are improvements over the last 2 games this decade, but then that voiced PC is a bitter pill to swallow.

Can't disagree with you there. Honestly can't. I just don't understand it.

Not the worst, that would go to Fallout POS, but even if that game didn't exist FO4 still wouldn't be worst (I think 3 is) not because it's an amazing game, but because it hardly feels like a fallout game to me imo, so it doesn't qualify for worst (same goes for tactics). I found that FO4 gets about 100x better once you stop thinking about it as a fallout game.

I prefer to create my own stories. I could give a flyin' fig about their stories in most cases. It's their story, not mine.

Different strokes, bruh. Me? I prefer turn-based cRPGs over all other styles of games. Almost wish I didn't what with this golden age renaissance going on right now pickin' fights with my paychecks! I can't even remember all the pledges I've made in the past two or so years...

• Wasteland 2
• Torment: Tides of Numenara
• Shadowrun
• Shadowrun Hong Kong
• Age of Decadance
• Dead State
• Underrail
• Banner Saga
• Pillars of Eternity

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Not much to understand, really. Obsidian were familiar with what made Fallout 1 and 2 what they were, what made Fallout "Fallout-y" per se, and they did what they could within the limits of the engine and the very small time-frame they were given to complete the game. Fans of Fallout 3 are typically new to the series or Elder Scrolls fans so it makes sense they'd prefer it.

What a weird topic. The the tread name suggests that you could vote if this is the worst of the Fallout games, and I think that it is, by far the worst, but it's still a good game, so how do I vote?

I guess you can't stand playing Fallout or Fallout 2, then.

Fallout 4 is a great game, and the weapon crafting trumps the Fallout 3/NV system of fixing a weapon with another copy of it. You really don't know what you're missing.

it's a pretty valid reason when it prevents you from playing the game comfortably. Besides, if I leave the forums, how will I find out that they fixed the binding issues? Just hop over the PC technical support forums and you'll see I'm not the only one complaining about this.

You're comparing this game too much with FNV. F3 was basically as advanced in terms of tech, and it was also in fact less in-depth with the faction system.

Synths actually existed in F3. There was a random encounter where you talked to one that escaped through the railroad. That little chunk of lore is what Fallout 4 was based on.

You and your "Master Race". Lord knows you'll come up with a "mod" soon enough.

I was just being silly though. I'm sure y'all will come up with something, or you could grown some extra digits. Hey there is radiation.

You know you can still CREATE your OWN stories even if NPC's have amazing stories to tell.

As I have said a trillion times... Nostalgia always makes old games seem better. I loved GoldenEye for Xbox but if I played it today I would turn it off in 5 seconds. Fallout 3 was groundbreaking and amazing for the time but it isn't better or worse than fallout 4; it is a different game and came out at a different time... Comparing the two makes 0 sense.

Looking at this poll only 5% of people have bad taste in open world RPGs... There is hope for the future after all.

I guarantee once mods come and most bugs are ironed out most people complaining will shut up and hop on board.

Bethesda gives us the GECK... A license to really make any kind of game we want to even a total conversion. People who don't like the vanilla game can make an all new story.

What the heck are people complaining about the game being the worst or bad for?

Well, I absolutely love Fallout 1-2 for their story, writing, music, atmosphere, towns, and dynamic and detailed RPG elements. However, I disliked New Vegas.

Though, not so much for the writing but the actual environment. It was all clustered and the few more open areas were just barren nothing. The color theme of amber gave me a headache, and New Vegas was a complete disappointment.

Though, I know that is all due to engine and time constraints. Their ideas aND concept art looked incredible