The Mage Guilds in Oblivion only had one quest each. It was often just a fetch quest. Or a generic dungeon with an item at the end.

You can still get those here. They're just not required. You can do quests for the orc librarian, several of the instructors, and each of the other students.

Pretty much what everyone says: The DB questlines are among the best, and some of it's assassination missions are simply the best we ever had in a TES game. But way too short sadly enough. I'm really kind of wondering what were they thinking, where is the fun in being the top guy after 2 quests? And am I the only one having this weird thing with the thieves guild where after completing it, no npc changes it's reaction? Like not a single one?

At the same time I also think that a lot of quests were done with greater care to details then in previous TES games... But if the cost to that is such a massive cut in the amount of quests... I'm not sure it's worth it... Have you also noticed, and this is probably my main grip with the faction quests in this game, how, mostly, the quests have NOTHING to do with the faction itself? Companion questline? Nothing to do with companion's daily job. Thieves Guild questline? Same, barely touching the thieves guild daily life. At least the DB quests got it right...

To the people that say this game is god awful garbage, terrible, rushed, etc etc.

...Have you even played it? Seriously? Or have you played some kind of godlike, perfect game that only you have played, and everything else is ruined for you?

*snip*

And from now on, I am done. Good thing I didn't have to purchase it. If I ever see todd howard irl, I will spit in his face for being such a sellout.

After coming off of dark souls, a completly flawless game with no bugs in it at all really, certainly nothing that breaks the game in any way, skyrim is a wreck. You can totally tell, they rushed this game out the door. This game wasn't babyed the way dark souls was.

I'm no programmer but I believe Dark Souls has way less parameters to be handled? It's a much smaller game, with less variables, it's kinda like saying Uncharted 3 has way less bugs, yeh sure...

The world itself is crafted with such care it's hard to say it was rushed. I think the problem is the focus. Most faction quests actually feel less generic then before, the dungeons are way superior to anything Oblivion had. But it came with a cost that is hard to swallow, for me at least. I started playing the TES games in 1996 when Daggerfall came out. You had like what, 40-50 factions to join? Had to do like... 20 quests to raise to the top? But the factions were generic and so were the quests... And the dungeons. And now we have 6-7 factions, that each have 5-6 non generic quests.... Somehow I'd rather have something in between if they aren't capable of raising the quality of quests and the numbers... I mean what next... In TES:VI we will have 4 factions with 3 stunning and amazing quests?....

I wish idiots would not spout spoilers all over the place. I've been here two hours and I've had doofuses spoil two major plot lines.

Leechman your a D*#%K your in the SPOILERS post

I just became a bard. I couldn't do that in Oblivion.

I'll come back to it with another character, but I'll only do the first couple quests and then slide over to the radiant quests. Make my fledgling mage do some work before you drop the Arch-Mage's cloak on his shoulders. So far with my new character I've stayed clear of all the major faction quest lines as I'm afraid to get my character boxed into a role I'm not mentally ready for.

So i have just now finished the college of winterhold and become archmage... I have also completed the companions on a different character. So far, I am disgusted with how short they are. DISGUSTED. Literally what, 3 or 4 quests and I am the arch mage? Wtf is that? Theres not even any ranks? And dont forget the companions, 1 quest, boom, you find out the whole circle is werewolves. 2nd quest boom, they let you join the circle. A few more quests, boom, your done.

In the time it took to do every assosiate job in Oblivion, I could finish both the companions and the college of winterhold. I am actually scared to try the dark brotherhood now. If its gonna be 5 missions till I am the top of the heap, [censored] it. I could care less if the game can keep generating useless content for me. I felt like the game literally handed me arch mage and harbinger, I didnt need to work for it at all. I am only lvl 15, dont even have a skill over 65, yet i am archmage?

I can't remember a thing about Arena, Daggerfall was certainly way longer, Morrowind definatly, and Oblivion as well, even though I hated their mages guild. TES 5 Skyrim, the worst guild quests ever. I cannot believe how [censored] short they are. I could care less about any of the stupid random fetch quests from the npcs, the main guilds have always been the bread and butter of the game for me.

Is anyone else totally disappointed about the lack of content here?

The actual story questlines are short. But you can do quests for all the subordinats in each guild. So there is actually plenty of quests to do. But if you only do the main questline for each guild, you'll be done i a few hours.

With that in mind, then, perhaps it would not be too much of a struggle for Modders to add 'experience/reputation' with each Guild based on the Radiant Quests-- i.e., 'Sorry you're not suitable for what I need-- go prove yourself'. Player does 5-10 Radient Quests, and goes back, 'Oh, I see, yes, you look to be able to handle yourself-- perhaps you can help me'. It would at least make the stories feel longer, since you are not immediately able to do the next one.

It's not even half of the length of Oblivion's Mages' Guild. It's a huge disappointment, since guilds were responsible for a very large portion of the fun of TES. This is slowly becoming one of those games in which you can only follow a singular line of quests until you reach the end and finish it.

That hardly extends the storyline or makes it more interesting. You're pretty much taking a pause on it to do something else.

That hardly extends the storyline or makes it more interesting. You're pretty much taking a pause on it to do something else.