Out of all the RPG's I've ever played, easily FF something-or-other.

Not that they're bad games, they're just not for me. Which makes it my "worst' RPG ever played.

That isn't even true of the console versions. I played the game on the 360, and like Veeno stated about the pc version, it is a one press thing, the stats take over after that.

Now I can say the same.

Speaking of which, here's some combat on PC. (I have no idea what the dude is saying, I haven't listened and there are probably much better demonstrations on YouTube but that's the first one I could find.)

edit: Woopsie, apparently not listening to what people say in videos prior to posting a link to them is a bad idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdPFwfvCpD4

Reduced Enemies? Overhead View?


So you people got a modern reimagining of Baldur's Gate and we got Paint By Numbers Oblivion?


:rofl:

And I just thought you were all insane.

Even then...its practically impossible that those games where the worst they played.

Anyway here are my worst ones since i didnt post them on the last post:

Ar Tonelico
Grow Lanser: Heritage of war
Dawn of mana

This. A thousand times this.

I had just finished Tales of Symphonia. I usually don't get into jRPGs, but I really enjoyed the combat in Tales of Symphonia and I wanted something similar. So, I picked up Star Ocean: Till the End of Time. The storyline is completely incompressible. And I don't mean that its "trippy" or "post-modern". Without spoiling anything, the first 2/3s of the game are basically long versions of a Star Trek "Planet of the WeeK" episode and have no bearing on the overall story. Then, you finally get back into the primary story, except that a twist occurs that renders everything before it meaningless and ultimately ends without much explanation. I heartily recommend reading the Wikipedia article. In combat you have MP and HP, attacks use either, damage goes to either, and if either one goes to zero you die. It makes combat boring and frustrating at the same time, which is novel. And the icing on the cake is the excessively complex crafting system that actually involves patents, inventors, random drops, and investments. I know the game scored well, so obviously some people enjoyed it, but I haven't had a worse experience in an RPG.

An honorable mention goes out to Deus Ex Invisible War. They simplified the RPG mechanics without improving any of the stealth or combat of the original Deus Ex. I don't mind simplification, as long as it carries with it improvements to other aspects of the game. But it didn't. Stealth is basically identical to Deus Ex, including the often ridiculously short vision of most enemies. Shooting was more accurate, but the unified ammo combined with the high health of most enemies made it a poor shooter. The levels are smaller, but they didn't populate them enough to make up for the size difference. It is a mediocre shooter with weak RPG mechanics and a so-so storyline.

How can an opinion be wrong?

I loved Ar Tonelico, so I guess your opinion is wrong too.

Enchanted arms, Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, and the entire Fable series. Oh and did someone already say Two Worlds?

Edit: Forgot Star Ocean: The Last Hope!

Fable's other than the original one...

So the fact that FF is my favorit JRPG series and have the only game music (exept Silent Hill 2) I listen to outside of a game do not give me the right to call FFXIII, (a game I have to turn the music off in and could not stand out of boredom) the worst rpg I ever played?

Maybe, but I'm probably going to read, Jesus-Turns-The-Page, every time I see your name now.

I wouldn't say the stats take over. There's a lot to where you place characters, when you use abilities, etc. In the PC version you have much better control and a better view over everything due to the general way the game is designed and the nature of the platforms and controllers. The PC version is MUCH more difficult and you have the proper tools and controls to deal with things like crowd control, team positioning, tank n' nuke tactics, flanking, etc. It keeps you busy to the point that in some fights I was pausing every few seconds to micro-manage my team to avoid being wiped out. Because the gamepad controls don't match up well to the way the game works they just scaled back the console combat to the point that the AI can do most of the work.

Pausing, selecting character, and issuing orders every time you want a character to change what they're doing so often would have been maddening with the way the console controls were set up. Trust me, I've played both versions (PC and 360) enough to be able to say with a moderate degree of authority that the types of things the player is focused on during combat are completely different between the versions. They just didn't do a good job adapting the combat interface to a console control scheme, so instead of re-working everything they just scaled the combat waaaay back and took out the tactical overhead viewing angle.

Anyway, I don't want to continue derailing the thread. How about Mistmare or Valhalla Chronicles? Metal Dungeon?

At least know we know who's been turning the page all this time. Stupid Argonians and their vague names...

No, I agree with the points that you are making, I knew the console version were a bit more, how you say . . . dumbed down. I was simply disagreeing with earlier comments people were making that almost made the gameplay sound like that which would be found in its sequel.

Oh I see. Ar tonelico was a [censored] rpg. EVERY single dialogue line in that game was a ridiculous innuendo. So honestly if you enjoyed that game you have really bad taste in video games. Furthermore, if you are the type of gamer that looks for sixual content in video games then sorry but your opinion does not matter to me. Keep replying all you want I wont be talking to you anymore.



If I understood correctly, you are saying that FF was the worst RPG u ever played because you didnt like the music. For starters, music alone doesnt make a game bad. Second, like I said before, if you didnt like the game then that is fine. But if you say that it is the 'worst' then i personally think you or anyone else is exaggerating because there are a million rpgs out there that are "indisputably" horrible. But like a perverted member (who shall remain unnamed) said, this is all a matter of opinion so i am indifferent.

Ah, my mistake. I haven't played the console versions of DA2, but I've heard they did a better job. Unfortunately, the PC version of DA2 isn't quite as satisfying as DA:O was IMO, although some things are improved.

I'm.. not really sure you're fully grasping the concept of an opinion. You're also jumping to ridiculous conclusions.

If someone says that they think a game is bad, take their word for it and move on.

The second game is definitely not for me. I played the demo and it just doesn't sit right with me. My experience coupled with less than stellar reviews that knocked both the characters and story, I doubt that game will find its way into my hands any time soon. Kinda sad, Origins is one of my favorite games, crappy console port or not.

I bow to your superior taste in games, how could I be so stupid to have a different opinion!? :bowdown:

It's ok, but it does feel rushed. Some aspects are good, while others feel tacked-on, and the story has some gaping holes of the, "why do I care about this, again?" variety. There's also an embarrassing amount of environment/map reuse. It's too bad, because it probably could have been great if they'd kept it in the oven longer. If you liked DA:O I'd try it out at least...rent it or wait until you can get a cheap used copy or something. I pre-ordered the signature edition for full price, but whatcha gonna do? Easy come, easy go. The combat is still pretty fun on Hard.

I'm sorry, Turns.








Jesus Turns.

Same here. It was Thief: Deadly Shadow's spiritual brother, and those two games, while often considered terrible, weren't all that bad.

I don't play many RPGs, but I'd have to say the biggest let-down was Oblivion, although it wasn't the worst. I'd have to say KoToR II.

Never played Ghost Lion, and I enjoyed Drakkhen at the time

Heh, yeah. I stopped to play SO3 when the twist occured. Such a disappointment, and such a shame too as SO2 is so excellent.

What the Hell is Going On: The Game


In my experience, ALL opinions are wrong.

On topic...it's been too long with so many games blurring together in my faint memories, but since I can see it from here I'll say Granstream Saga. Honestly I'm not even sure why it's there, I know I never bought it. Must have been a gift from a relative who didn't really know what videogames were, or something.

That game wouldn't be so bad if that damn flute was easier to use! :banghead:

Also,

Fallout 3

Balance-terrible (even worse after Operation Anchorage)
Story-terrible