Balance, in what way?

Um, you're joking right?

After all the leveling was said and done you were essentially a god and that was just in the vanilla version. If you had Operation Anchorage you were given ten more levels and you were easily able to max most, if not all, of your skills. It's not even as if you could really gimp yourself either as you have to distribute those skill points. The thirty perks were also way overpowering as well and though you could gimp yourself on the perks your skills made up more than enough for it.

I guess I never really noticed since I always play the game on "very hard" difficulty, which is like "normal" difficulty on any other game. At least it's not so imbalanced that you need extensive modding to fix it, like Oblivion.

Ultima 8 - Pagan.

I also dislike SO3, but for an entirely different reason: The dungeons. SO3 has, by far, the lamest, most boring dungeon designs I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with. Every single dungeon is just a giant maze with nothing interesting to look at, almost nothing to interact with, the only obstacles being monsters that are too powerful to bother fighting for experience.

Which brings me to another problem I have with SO3: The monsters. Throughout the first third of the game, they're not too bad. Challenging at times, a breeze at others. But then they just went BAM, tough as nails, take full combos from the party to die (each!) and can instantly KO any of your party members whenever they feel like it. And should you somehow manage to win against a group of these atrocities, they'd barely give any freakin' experience.

But as far as the story and characters are concerned, I found them both average. They're nothing I haven't seen before in JRPGs and, actually, interact more with each other than in most JRPGs I play.

:rofl:

I remember when I first played it I found it easy... but now I am like wtf was I on. I guess it was because I grinded after doing something...

Final Fantasy VII easily. It has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Dragon Quest VIII is similarly awful.

Why do people love these games so much?

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Actually, that's yet another thing I don't like. The game's either way too hard or way too easy. It all depends on whether or not you exploit the broken item crafting system. You can get some seriously overpowered equipment using it, completely eliminating any and all challenge the game could possibly provide. But if you don't use it, the game just kicks your ass. :laugh:

Note: I know some of you might be thinking "Well, then it's obviously designed in such a way as to promote item crafting to win." Then explain to me why the shops consistently updated their equipment to (I so foolishly assumed) "balance" the spiking of difficulty out.

It's actually kind of funny to know that the veterans of Star Ocean 3 go through that game completely ignoring the random enemies and stomping all over the much weaker bosses. My god, that is a mess.



I like DQ8, but I cannot bring myself to play it anymore. The alchemy pot drives me insane. I shouldn't have to run around for five to ten minutes for each and every recipe to finish. I'm dead serious when I say that if the alchemy pot gave me instantaneous results, I would love that game again. There's just so much tedium that I can tolerate, and waiting half an hour for some herbs to turn into slightly better herbs was too much.

Maybe beacuse one of them were someones first rpg and they could not belive how much you could do?

(FFVIi was my first and i love it to this day.)

hyperdimension neptunia...

A friend said it was good... Never believe him about anything again.

After 5 mins i stuck it in the bin.

The monsters give tons of experience though, assuming you haven't been hit once for around 50 battles in a row. :shifty:

http://youtu.be/_smk-FLvgwU :thumbsup:


Nostalgia is definitely a factor. FFVIII was my first, and my favorite by far.

I've never been more upset with an rpg I've purchased than I was with Dragon Age 2.

Absolutely hated the King's Field series. Incredibly slow and boring.

Every single Final Fantasy game except Final Fantasy 8. I am sorry, I have never been a Final Fantasy fan.

I would say NIER even though its more ActionRPG... i bought it played it for like 3 days and said ok ive had enough ...it had crappy grafx for being such a resent game, terrible camera movement, and the world was really dole, lacking many things.

Agreed. I remember playing it and I just couldn't quite believe how bad it was and how bad it performed on a high end machine.


It's actually quite a common name.

Dragon Age 2.


Origins was one of the best modern RPG's there, and then Bioware manages to [censored] entire series...

You should probably stop apparently playing the entire series, then.

Two Worlds - Not because I found it bad, but because I didn't find it interesting enough to keep me playing.

Star Wars Galaxies - Started off well. But the devs kept bowing to every minor complaint. Combat mechanics changed, Prequel stuff shoehorned in and all those people who grinded really hard to become Jedi? Their efforts were all for nothing when the professions were changed to allow you to start as a Jedi (Resulting in Jedi all over the place)

The CDI Zelda games - Soemone should have been shot for those.

Looks like we still need that pitchfork and torch. :toughninja:



Words cannot describe how much I agree with you. Dragon Age 2 was embarrasing.

FFI
FFII
FFIII
FFIV
FFV
FFVI
FFVII
FFVIII
FFIX
FFX
FFX-2
FFXII
FFXIII
FFXIV
.......

FFXL
FFXLI
...

FFL..
FFC
FFD
FFM

Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
Xenogears
Kingdom Hearts
Kindgom Hearts II
WOW
Any Zelda game
PSO
KOTOR
Fable
Fable II
Xenosaga
Lineage
Diablo I
Diablo II/LOD
NWN
Baldur's Gate
Dragon Quest series

Why do people like any of these games? I can name an infillion amount of better ones!\11

Excrement to slightly less excrement:

1. Two Worlds II - an engine with lots of pretty shaders... but no interface...or game fo that matter, attached.
2. Arcania: A Gothic Tale - more like a Gothic Fail
3. Two Worlds - well, at least it made me laugh...for all the wrong reasons.
4. Alpha Protocol - it uses Unreal Engine 3, no, really... I never would have guessed either if I hadn't read it somwhere.
5. Neverwinter Nights 2 - How many patches? And it still isn't fixed even though it is no longer suppoerted.

They all failed to deliver in all of the fundamental areas of game design. And at least 4 of those titles shouldn't bear the title "Role" playing game.

Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader

The first act was good, the second merely tolerable, the third made me want to throw the disc out the window into passing traffic (except I didn't have a disc). The only saving grace that I didn't have to pay for it; I got it as a GoG promotional item.