I don't think I've agreed with anything as completely as I do with this in over a year. :clap:

If I get the most visually and technically impressive game ever seen, with Fallout 3 "I'm looking for my father. Middle-aged guy. Maybe you've seen him?" writing, I just might make the local 6 o'clock news. And not in any good way.

See you in prison! :lmao:
NO....i'm sure it will be fine,to me this game as epic written all over it.
But thats just me

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This

I like dragons, given the choice I would not kill them. At the very least, one should be able to have a discussion with some of these intelligent creatures and, in an ideal world, persuade some over to your side. If the Skyrim dragons turn out to be nothing more than oversized clifracers with bad breath, placed in game just for the OMG Epic Battle!!!, then everything we have lost will be for nothing.



I'll run with this too.

Forgive me for even asking, but seriously? SPEARS? Is there something about them I'm missing or not remembering from Morrowind that made them so special that you'd rather have them instead of dragons?

Perhaps I missed something but is it confirmed that werewolves won't be in?

Mounted combat I don't know if I care enough to worry about, it would be cool, and certainly helpful for fighting dragons, but I think I'll live

Perhaps Bethesda will release some DLC later, which will feature spear-wielding werewolves, mounted, and carrying a spell making altar :ermm:

Assuming they don't split that in two and make an entire DLC just to add spears

I would give up Dragons (Hell, I would give up Skyrim) for the Infernal City NOT to be canon.

It's a Bethesda game, the MQ plot and writing are going to svck. So rather than see them waste time on something they'll almost certainly screw up anyway, I'd prefer to see better gameplay. Children, werewolves, crossbows, spears, levitation, jump spells... Need I go on?

Yes, I'd probably trade Dragons for mounted combat or spellmaking or stuff like levitation. This doesn't have anything to do with belittling the efforts of the team that works on Dragons. You can't do that or the opposite until you see the results anyway. It has more to do with me caring more about the little stuff that make the game more complete at all times, than adding one single epic aspect that will probably get old eventually. Ofcourse I haven't seen the game, the implementation of dragons, or how the system works and how it may be best for some things to stay out, so my opinion may very well change after I see the game.

HELL NO!!!!

he had a team seperate from the rest spend 2 years on nothing but create dragons. i wanna see their hard work.

...Flails, werewolves, werebears, and valchihar vampires...

Would I sacrifice an integral part of the game's plot, mood and the series progression? No, absolutely not.

Mounted combat is fun, but it's completely useless in any dungeon or area where a horse isn't viable. It works in Mount & Blade where most battles take place on open fields, that's not the case here.

Spears are situational weapons, in cramped quarters they are useless. If mounted combat was in then they would be extremely usefull, but on their own I don't see the point in spending development time on something that's almost never going to be used by the majority of players.

We had Werewolves in Bloodmoon, it'd be cool to see them again, and there's no guarantee we won't. But it wouldn't be a huge loss if they were out.

I don't feel like going through everything, I'll just say no. I would not trade dragons for any of those things, none of them contribute enough to the progression of the series and gameplay for me to trade them. Not to mention that without dragons the entire plot would need to be completely rewritten, if you think that's going to happen when the game is 9 months away from projected release, you have no idea how much work goes into a game of this scale.

Dragons sound like they are going to be an awesome foe that will have me sprinting for cover for the first chunk of the game. I can not wait for one to plunge down through the trees crushing my companion and sending me flying. It will be crazy. I don't think I would want to give them up for anything.

I said I would not give up dragons. I think that most of the other things will be modded in later but well done dragons is a lot harder to be modded.
If I have to sacrifice a few small things to get a few hard things I will take it

I have to agree. I don't really care for dragons. Or companions for that matter. They just seem to be concessions to more generic fantasy traditions in order to draw in larger audiences.

I'd be fine with one dragon, if that. That's extremely intelligent and non-hostile as an Easter Egg.

Spears, just one of the already (in my opinion) sizeable array of weapons available, versus a core feature of the game, rooted in its plot, the lore of the entire TES series, and something they have worked hard to make truly special? Dragons win for me.

Mounted combat would be nice, but we already have a plethora of offensive and defensive abilities at our disposal. I don't need to wield them from horse/mammoth/whatever-back more than I need dragons to be in the game (due to their plot-critical, technically impressive - they claim - and lore-heavy nature.)

Werewolves I would really, really love to have in the game. However, they weren't in vanilla Morrowind either, and I wouldn't have sacrificed anything in that game to have them. And I wouldn't sacrifice dragons (see above reasons) to have them in the game this time, either. (Although I strongly suspect they'll either be in, or be added via DLC and/or an expansion.)

Spellmaking, as it was, was never going to be in the game. It wouldn't matter how much time and effort they put into developing the dragons. They have stated that it was one of their decided design goals to eliminate what they saw as a "spread sheet-like" spellmaking system, to make spells truly impressive to behold, and to render them more varied and powerful in utility. If the consequence of that means we don't end up with any form of spellmaking, then I'll miss it, but I'd still rather have this new magic system they're touting than the old one. And dragons or no dragons, we weren't ever going to have that system. So, no.

Boats (or rickshaws, or wagons, or some other form of fast travel that doesn't involve simply clicking on a map) is something I have long advocated, and I still advocate and desire it. But would I sacrifice a plot, lore, and gameplay critical element of the game (in terms of their vision for it at least) to have them? No. I'd LOVE them to be in. But I want the dragons even more.

It isn't just because they're "cool." It isn't because they're a gimmick. It's because they are part and parcel of their vision and design for the game, its atmosphere, its balancing, and its pacing. I want to experience that vision, even if it means I'll be missing some things from my own. I want to be surprised and to experience something new.

Dragons rock.
Everything else svcks.

Wouldn't give'em up for anything!

A week with Scarlett Johansson in Seychelles islands, free of charge :hubbahubba:
JK
I think the game would loose it′s class and purpose without the dragons...

I don't think this isn't the right game for boats anyway. The ocean only touches on one side, and they'd have to do some kind of invisible barrier thing to keep us from sailing into High Rock. Save it for Summerset Isle, where we could freely circle the whole island, in one of these:


Maybe just as this is the "dragon game", TES6 will be the "ship game" with 9 people working on that for 2 years.

Nothing could make me give up the dragons, that would be a huge loss. :shakehead:

Considering Todd told us that the dragon mechanics are already built and look great, and that he had his best people working on it, tells me it's going to be very good.

Bring on the dragons! :goodjob:

Nope, Dragons > pointy sticks and werecreatures. Besides, Dragons are a central part of this game, and for all we know there is a chance they are happening from the very beginning of the game. That would be like taking the Blight out of Morrowind or taking Mehrunes Dagon and the Mythic Dawn out of Oblivion. You're comparing lesser gameplay mechanics with something that is not only a gameplay mechanic but part of the main story line, and a major part of the game. :shrug:

I cannot say that I would or would not give up dragons at this point. If Bethesda hadn't gone and made the dragons an integral part of the game, then sure, without a trace of doubt I would sacrifice their presence in the game for the presence of werewolves, werebears, Falmer, spears, crossbows, medium armor, levitation, mark/recall, a dynamic main storyline and a slough of other things that I sorely miss from Morrowind and Daggerfall, or would like to see in Skyrim. Unfortunately as it stands, sacrificing dragons at this point sounds like it would sacrifice the storyline of the game with it.

But you know what? If Skyrim follows the trend that Oblivion did in terms of the main questline, I think I would rather see the story burnt at the stake and be able to play as a werebeast again.

You're damn right about that, I don't know if you've seen the dragon mod for Oblivion. No offense to whoever made that mod, I'm sure you did your best and worked really hard on it, but those dragons looked terrible to me, I just did not like those at all. Personal preference, the difference in quality was too obvious for it to work for me.

Besides, Dragons will affect gameplay in a major way, that's not something the other things, with the exception of werewolves, do.

Also, boats? Really? Like boats you would sail yourself? Why? I get it if it's a transport system like Morrowind's you're talking about, but just having boats to row or sail in doesn't seem like it's worth the time to implement. I doubt they'll be evenr emotely usefull enough to bother with.