Oblivion is a best seller 360 title, so i think people would be interested in what games came before it.Also, I realise the controls are mouse heavy but they can simply change them to be like oblivions controls, it'd work perfectly.I know chances are slim of this actually happening, but i would love to see it happen and i'd buy both(arena wont run on my pc and daggerfall costs a huge amount on ebay).

Getting Arena and Daggerfall to run on a modern PC is hell, imagine getting it to run on Xbox 360 hardware. Also, both games require a keyboard and and mouse to operate, especially Arena. So to be short, a XBLA port is practically impossible.

As i said, they can use oblivions interface and controls...

Daggerfall has too many and too severe of glitches for it to ever be marketed as is in the gaming world today.

I thought patches got rid of nearly all glitches in daggerfall?

To accomplish that they would have to rip many core gameplay elements out of Arena and Daggerfall, and ultimately the games wouldn't resemble their PC counterparts. I honestly don't think it's possible to play Arena or Daggerfall with Oblivions control and interface.

Really? because honestly, i think it can be done.

why would you want it on Xbox? this is a situation where "just buy a pC" actually is plausible, because the level of PC you need for Daggerfall is 10 years old and probably purchasable for like $30!!
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Many core gameplay elements require the keyboard and mouse, especially in Arena. These elements couldn't just be switched to the controller. Either way, I doubt it's possible to port it to any console since the hardware is too different.

it will never happen but its nice to think about.

yeah i do have a rather old pc (a pentium II windows 98) but im not about to pay 60 bucks on ebay for daggerfall, and arena doesnt work on my pc for some reason.also I dont know how to get downloaded pc games to work... and no one will ever help me to either

Xbox 360 supports usb software, such as the keyboard. Never heard of anyone hooking up a mouse to one before, though its not outside the realm of possibilty. Besides which, if they can get a game like Classic Doom to operate smothly on it, than they shouldn't have any problem running Arena or Daggerfall.

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ah, finally someone who thinks its possible.Thank you.I think I'm gonna email bethseda about it.

I imagine it would be significantly easier for these games to be released with windows support than for consoles, epecially given the difference in controls (I doubt it's as simple as you make it out to be). And Daggerfall, even with the patches, still has plenty of problems and they're only going to get worse after being ported.

Anyway, Pete has said that Daggerfall will not be re-released and he sounded pretty definite when he said it. He didn't go in to detail, which is unfortunate, but I think we should be willing to trust him.

Well, theres always hope for arena.... i want daggerfall too though

they've been releasing(and announcing) lots of classic DOS/windows games for xbla lately, like doom, duke nukem 3d, Quake, quake arena, ect.
I wouldnt completely rule out a release of arena and daggerfall for xbla, however unlikely

Microsoft won't allow any unofficial USB connectables to work on the 360, from Keyboards to Wireless USB cards. On the PS3, they have released a Keyboard and mouse, but I doubt Bethesda will alienate 90% of the console market without a Keyboard and mouse to suffer with a broken game.

As for Doom, ID software has released it's source code in 1997, making ports possible, Bethesda has apparently lost the source code to Daggerfall. Not to mention ID software updated the Doom engine and made it more versatile when it was ported to Windows (due to it's popularity), Bethesda hasn't updated either Arena's or Daggerfalls engine to make it simpler to use in a modern computing environment. Not only would Arena be impossibly difficult to port, but Bethesda and many other people simply don't feel the need to do it.

Just because an old game got ported doesn't mean another one can, many things change between the two engines and games. I'm sorry to say that a console port of either Daggerfall or Arena is pretty much impossible.

Keyboards and mice (mouses?) are universally official devices. But until I hear one way or another from gamesas officially about Arena, I wouldn't say its impossible just yet. Just highly improbable. As for Daggerfall... well maybe sometime in the future. What I would definately like to see dowloadible is the expansion packs for Morrowind. You wouldn't beleive how hard it is to find a GOTY edition for that game.

Microsoft doesn't support keyboards or mice (?) on the Xbox 360, you can check yourself. Even with the PS3 you'll have to buy a specially made Keyboard and mouse to get it to work properly. I'd say Arena is bordering impossibility, due to the control issues and the severe porting problems. Daggerfall could be easier to port, but if Bethesda has really lost it's source code then it's definitely impossible. Sure, Bethesda possibly can port Arena, only it will be overly challenging and somewhat unnecessary going through all the trouble. Not to mention all the stuff they'll have to change in order to make it playable. It will barely resemble the game it was ported from.

Sure, that would explain why my Keyboard works on my 360 when I plug it in. Thanks for clearing that up. :rolleyes:

As for Daggerfall, it's a definate imposibility unless Bethesda reverses its decision concerning rereleasing it, code none withstanding (I recall reading somewhere on these forums that gamesas lossing the source code is just a rumour).

What keyboard are you using? I'm actually interested because all USB keyboards (and wireless cards) I've tried haven't worked.

EDIT: I've searched and found you can use some USB keyboards with the 360, but NOT for playing games, making it useless in this discussion.

Yes, it's just a rumor, but the source code is needed to port to consoles or windows, otherwise it's impossible. Bethesda could just release the Daggerfall CD folder or ISO for free, but they said they weren't going to do that.

It's safe to say that Arena and Daggerfall will never go to XBLA. Don't get me wrong, I want them to be ported, but it's just too difficult and unnecessary.

I emailed bethseda requesting a release of arena and daggerfall on xbla, as well as Morrowind GOTY edition in xbox originals. About morrowind, I dont have it, it cost $17 on ebay and ebgames, and plus if its released on xbox originals bethseda will get some money AND there wont be any dirty disk errors(which are all too common with original xbox disks)

Awesome idea about the Xbox originals, hopefully Microsoft agrees to do it.

I haven't downloaded any xbox originals, as I was concerned about porting glitches/errors might be more pronounced. Is this a legitiment concern?

As far as the keyboard, the only game on xbox 360 that can use it (so far as I know) is FFxi. Microsoft may not support Keyboard/Mice, but there's no reason why the games shouldn't. Microsoft can't dictate what controles a game can use, that would be way outside their power (which is why I don't see why Oblivion didn't have the option for keyboard and mouse, I would love to at least have that resource at my disposal). And with that I'm gonna let this debate die, it's almost turning into a flame, lol.

Do I think that Arena and Daggerfall should be ported? Most definately. gamesas isn't making anymore money off of these two titles anymore, as the only copies of them are being bought/sold between gamers and not by Bethsuda itself. The only way they'll make anymore money is to make it more availible to a wider base of players. And frankly, I think they'd make more money than they'd spend doing it. So they'd do well to consider it.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/review-why-xbox.html Basically, it's saying that there are some emulation bugs, but it's being far too critical. From what I've played of XBO games, they were mostly fine and I encountered very little bugs. If you can't find the original game discs, getting it with XBO is still perfectly fine.

Yeah arena and daggerfall should definitely be released on xbla, bethseda isnt making any more money off them.
Also, xbox originals dont have dirty disk errors, which are BY FAR the biggest problem with actual xbox 1 disks.My xbox 1 game collection is in good condition, yet 3/4 of them get dirty disk errors constantly