@Gabriel77dan
1. He doesn't allow them to use medicine so that their bodies will stay strong on their own.
--Then why does he have the autodoc? He is a hypocrite who uses technology to control people.

2. What?
--Taken out of context. Agricultural science did not bring about the atomic war.

3. I thought he explained that he only allows for the people to use what they themselves can create and to not rely on old world technology cause one day it will fail and it's better to restart anew and grow strong with the knowledge at hand.
---Then why are they using firearms/ballistic fists/etc. that they can't create themselves? Hypocracy.

4. I see no atomic warheads in Caesa'rs camp.
---Taken out of context. I was referring to the weapons technology that led to the atomic war. Medicine and agricultural science did not.

5. Isn't it a necessity for the one in charge to be able to control his/her/their people?
---Again taken out of context. He is a hypocrite. If technology is bad, then it is all bad.

6. Wrong.
7. Wrong.
----Do you really believe that if a slave refused to accept the sixual advances of a legionare, or looked at him in an offensive manner, or talked back that the legionare wouldn't kill or at the least beat the slave? Lanius killed a brahmin because it was in his way. Slaves are no better than brahmin, probably worth less. Brahmin can carry more and are less troublesome.

8. So is BOS and NCR.
----Never said they weren't. This has nothing to do with the subject at hand. This is deflection.

9. The reason I'm annoyed at these threads: Legion got shafted in FNV...
----As portrayed in New Vegas, Caesar's Legion is not best for the Mojave. Maybe FO4 will give the truth about them, but I doubt it. I think the devs get off on these arguments.

10. I don't trust the GECK's "karma" crap really, I like to make my own opinions about people, I'm sure Master would be considered evil in the GECK if FO1 had one but I still consider him a man with a noble vision.
-----Doesn't work for something you didn't make. Only the author can say that this person is bad, this one is good. And just because someone has a noble vision doesn't mean they are not evil. "You will do what I say or I will kill you." is not good; even if the end result is in their best interest. Caesar's Legion as a whole, in New Vegas, is evil.

Yes, you are right about one man bringing them down, The Lone Wanderer The Chosen One. To him the Legion is like swatting a fly. But to the Legion he is like fighting Godzilla and Chuck Norris at the same time. :bowdown:

One day the Legion will encounter a big as NCR society but organized better and then the legion will get there ass handed to them because they don't have the tech to beat them.

Well since we don't know of every faction in the Fallout Universe a faction the size of NCR "could" be possible.
Still, we have to go by what we have, and since currently there only exist three: Legion, NCR, MWBOS I'd say that if Legion faced MWBOS then they might lose.

They would lose big time, i don't think a machete, hunting rifle or cowboy rep will penetrate a MWBOS power armor only thing that could would be the ballistic fist and only the platorian guard has those.

It isn't just about weapons and armor, whoever has the best tactics will win.
MWBOS is sure to have radaways and rad-x's and stuff but if Legion does a stunt like they did at Searchlight then they'd win.
And since Legion is careful with tactics I believe they could put up a more than decent fight.
But yes, if we're gonna be incredible blunt with legion squad vs MWBOS squad on open ground then MWBOS would win.

I know war is not only about weapons. but i still think the BOS would win cause there just so much more advanced.
and the legion can't go around irradiating all the land cause then there would be not much use in capturing it if everybody turns goul.
BTW does the MWBOS has allot of vertebirds? that would favor there odds.

1. I figure it's so that he have something "magical", a miraculous gift which he can grant someone if they do great work. A way to reward a good dog.

2. Kay.

3. Who says they cannot craft these weapons themselves?

4. Mkay so modern weapons overall?

5. When does he say that tech is bad? He says that his people should use what they are able to understand and create themselves, and disallow medicine so that his people will learn how to stay strong without the need for medicine to extend lifetime.

67. You never said that it had to be a slave. Yes, if a slave looked at a legionnaire the wrong way they could earn themselves a good beating, but it would be unnecessary to kill a slave for that unless it's a purpose of striking more fear into the others.

9. For Vegas, no, for the entire wasteland? Yes, IMO.

10. Erm, no? The reader of a book is allowed to their own interpretation, the author has no right to say "you're wrong." The world isn't built up of black and white morality but tons of variables in a gray area.
I consider Legion to be lawful evil though, but the GECK can [censored] off IMO.

They don't have Vertibirds.

I know war is not only about weapons. but i still think the BOS would win cause there just so much more advanced.
and the legion can't go around irradiating all the land cause then there would be not much use in capturing it if everybody turns goul.
BTW does the MWBOS has allot of vertebirds? that would favor there odds.

But the NCR defeated them and they're not nearly as advanced.

The NCR haven't even met the Midwestern BOS your thinking about the west coast BOS, there really different.

Read it up on wikivault http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Midwestern_Brotherhood_of_Steel

Ok for five next time your you have a deadly disease which requires medicine to heal, I'll see how well you stick to that.

Ok for five next time your you have a deadly disease which requires medicine to heal, I'll see how well you stick to that.

You really pissed me off with this here post, my son died because the village I was travelling in forbade anyone from using medicine to preserve it if they ever got attacked, they could use it to save the neccessary visitors, I do not harbor any anger for what they restricted as they were planning for the future. Not even two months after they were attacked and half of the villagers died, but they saved most of the children and some warriors.

we're all going to die eventually.

That disease could have been in prevented or treated if you would have lived in America. Where he could of gotten immediate medical attention...just saying

Thats a rather blunt way to put it. But its true. Who would want to live forever anyways??

I'm not so in depth with USAnian medical treatment but isn't it so that if one does not have money or a health insurance one is... Kicked out of the hospital?


Would be interesting to see how the world pans out and experience so many major events in human history but all friends dying, your family dying at some point, all alone, would get very depressing to live for so long.

1. if you dont have money your [censored] out of luck though.

2. Not a heart attack...that would be terrible.