look at the facts
1. they guard their caravans properly
2.they arent huge on annexeing for funds
3. they actual have feelings (they murder a tribe,then they spare any who join them (only male))
4.ceaser isent a total dike
5.they take war as a main importance (walk into the strip and gaze at all the useless NCR and you will know what i mean)
6. when they enslave people they are really saving them from the harsh wastes(which makes alot of sense when thought about)

1. Hell no
2. Hell no.
3. Hell no.
4. I hate him and hes a super dike.
5. thats terrible.
6. No not really.

Question is Racist

You must be brainwashed by the Legion

First off, they killed the Tribals, THATS WHY THE ROADS ARE SAFE

Yea, they annex to kill

NO THEY DONT!

lol, im going to ignore that

Taking war importantly? Great Nation *sarcasm*

thats not saving, thats killing, but worse.

I'm willing to defend that having the Legion is better than having nothing. Except, in the Mojave, we have more to choose from than Caesar and his Legion, and the other choices offer more progressive and enlightened ways of life than CL.

But luckily theres more to choose from...Bob show them what they have won....YOU WON DEMOCRACY!!!

Well, ideally, House would have won and there wouldn't be democracy - but that's an argument for another thread...

yes...yes...indeed(rubs hands together devilishly)

For Vegas specifically? No, House is the best option for Vegas the city, but for the entire Mojave and the entire Core Region? Then yeah I believe that Caesar is best.


1. They do though.
2. I'm confused about this one.
3. Well if we say like this: Legion has a greater goal in mind for humanity and it's people whereas NCR and House only wants money.
4. I like him, he can get a short temper every once in a while but he's mostly chill to talk to, whereas House just bugs me with every sentence and NCR's top dogs are hard to get to.
5. War? Sure, but it's a necessity.
6. In Arizona I'd say yes.

1. There is that, though it's a weak justification for everything else the Legion does
2. No....they just want your WIVES AND DAUGHTERS. The lucky ones will be EATEN. The truly unfortunate will spend the rest of thier lives being r*ped over and over again.

3. I'd regard a invader who conquers you, deliberately kills your sick and elderly, takes and sells your women, and forces what men aren't murdered outright to fight for them sociopaths, myself.

4. He's a fraud and a narcissist with a sense of entitlement the size of Saturn...he svcks bigtime. If I had to have a King who wants to make the world better through slavery, I'd go to the Pitt. At least Ashur can do his own ass-kicking.

5. War is a means to an end, not the end itself.

6. If the Legion was so great, they'd have to keep people out, not conquer everyone around them to feed thier economy. One they run of out people they can enslave, they're screwed.

1. Nah.
2. me to.
3. Really they have a greater goal. What to enslave people...please dont make me laugh.
4. Short temper. He thinks hes better than anyone else and hes not.
5. Not all the time.
6. mmmm.

I'm guessing you're talking about the baby makers correct?
Do we have a confirmation that they are an open buffé for legionnaires?
I think that most likely: yes, they are forced to get pregnant, but once they "are" pregnant it would not make sense to keep beating the future mother, so if the pregnant woman behaves good I think she'll be treated fairly well, might even be treated like a noble if she acts right.
Those that resist on the other hand gets punished for it.
That's my speculation on it, but we do not have enough data to claim that they [censored] slaves 24/7.

Yes but the fact they treat them like [censored] is just terrible enough.

If you don't like freedom

If you love being a slave (I not going to judge)

If you like having your wife and daughters sold as slaves and force to make more legion babies.

If you like being a slave master or slave trader

Then yes the Legion would be good for New Vegas :thumbsup:

ok now thats agreeable

Forgot one: If you like being a citizen under safe protection from raiders, gangs, wildlife and outside factions.

ok everybody we got one plus here. Now can we see the list of Cons....hmmmm....yes its far more longer than the pros...

I suppose it depends on veiw points. For a female it may svck really badly. For a ncr or ex-ncr its also gonna be really bad for them (even more for ex ones). Anyone else apart from the GK (the whole get rid of them after getting rid of them, doesn't sound so good.) But for anyone else its gonna be alot better, with the whole sorting out things, instead of "We should do something!" "Should we do something?" ncr can do good, god knows i like ncr but legion can do good for MW

And the idea of Debate is lost into the old world, once more.

Honestly? No one is better for Vegas as it would be best to just slaughter everyone living there.

No mercy, no living men, just skeleton of an old world.

sixing your slaves is pretty much r*pe...they can say yes, but cannot say no. The prettier ones get sold to a officer or someone else with Caesar's favor and only have one man molesting them. Siri tells you that it's pretty much a ever present threat for those with any six appeal who aren't owned by a individual. And you don't have to beat someone up to r*pe them....especially once they learn it's going to happen anyway.

Now that is just vile.

That is yet to be proven. For we have seen no Legion towns. All we know is they treat women worse then animals and kill and enslave those that are against them. So it would seem they only provide protection for men.

"Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."

You don't need the Legion for that......installing Sheriff Meyers in Primm makes it quite safe and tranquil under every faction but the Legion, who exterminate every last resident. As a side benefit, he only requires a modest salary in caps and doesn't r*pe and/or eat your wives and daughters.



Of course......but it's what the Legion fans are defending. Gabriel wants us to believe she'd gladly climb up on the auction block herself. Pardon me if I don't believe it.

The list of cons is made up from people safe in their home sweet home free of radiation, raider and mutant wild life.

Hmmph well the question is would they be better for new Vegas.. And no one has mentioned they really do not care for drugs including booze and i am willing to go out on a limb and say they are not that hot on gambling either. (unless its you betting on your combat prowess ).

wtf man?