First, this is not a suggestion of what I think actually happened, just a question if it would be theoretically possible for it to be so (for personal reasons, might RP this story while playing the games).

After the nerevarine rids himself of corprus disease, he is immune to diseases and aging, but appearently disappears sometime between the events of morrowind and those of oblivion.

Now, would there be a possibility that the Hero of Kvatch (and perhaps later the Dovakhiin) would infact be the Nerevarine who has returned from Akavir, but tired of the fame and wealth, decided to start a new life in a new province and somehow got thrown in jail?



As I said, I'm not suggesting this as an explanation of what really happened, but I like the idea of (even if I'm the only one who knows) play the same character through all three games (and seeing as how he is not touched by aging, this might make sense).

Kindly awaiting your response

PS. First Post here, really looking forward to engulfing myself with the lore and immersing myself further within the universe of the elder scrolls.

And also, what would be a suitable name for such a character?

I was thinking an anagram of a related word, such as Nerevar, Indoril och Resdayn
(such as my username, which is one of Nerevar, and the best I've come up with so far.)

I intend to play this character as a dunmer, but if you have any better suggestions (with motivation), they're very welcome.

Surely. The fate of the Nerevarine is open enough that you could certainly operate on that idea.
The rumors that he went to Akavir are just that; rumors.

And as far as I know, there's no reason you couldn't have the character of Skryim be the same individual.

Welcome and have a http://images.uesp.net//c/c4/Fishystick.jpg :foodndrink:

Those heroes are separate and live their own lives accordingly as prophesied by the Elder Scrolls themselves. They are their own person, with only the events during the games mapped out in the Scrolls. Their lives are left open-ended for a purpose. They could not be one in the same.

Edit: There can't be a hero that's a reincarnate of a Chimer general, that happens to save Cyrodiil from Dagon, and then turn up later and was a Dovahkiin. Doesn't work that way.

There are plenty of those around whose main in OB, MW, and DF is the same guy from Arena. There's a good reason why the hero of each game is kept ambiguous, and somewhat written away in ways that can be hand-waved as a faulty rumor.

Arena, totally me who saved the emprah. Daggerall? Was so there and gave the totem to the Underking, but the other agent got stepped on and I'm not sure what happened to the others. Morrowind? Got sick, got better, became the Horator, defeated Dagoth Ur, Alamexia, and Hircine. Oblivion? My jailing was a cover-up, the rumor about Akavir was made up, and I wasn't the one who became the doGdaM. Skyrim? Well, I am immortal, thanks to the corpus disease.

Is it possible? Yes. Probable? You decide.

Of course there CAN, if the player wants it. This is fiction, far more outlandish things than that are possible, and the whole spirit of these games is that of accommodating what the player wants.

Thanks for the responses!
I got exactly what I was hoping for - a mixture of arguments for and against.

On the matter of what's prophezised or not... Do we actually know exactly what the elder scrolls say on these heroes? (for my own sake I mainly care about morrowind, oblivion onwards, since morrowind was the first I played, and I find it unlikely that I will explore Daggerfall or even Arena further than reading about the story, but if you want to include those aswell into it, go right ahead)

I mean, do they actually say things that would contradict themselves in case they were indeed one person?

Nope. We're intentionally never given specifics about any of the heroes, except the nature of their heroism. That's done precisely to allow the player to create their own story and character as free as they like.

The elder scrolls tell the tale of the protagonist of every Elder Scrolls game. That's about as specific as it gets. Whatever your Morrowind character did in Morrowind, that's what that elder scroll is written about.

I don't think there's any real reason why you can't have the same character across all Elder Scrolls games, you'd just have to wave off a few things mentioned in the series, like the Nerevarine going to Akavir and the Eternal Champion of Arena and the Hero of Daggerfall having two separate birth dates. I think it's HIGHLY improbable, but it's a game series where you can be what you want to be, so why not?

In fact, if the storyline of that one character starts with Morrowind, him going to Akavir a time before the events of Oblivion would make perfect sense (as in, he goes there, does whatever business he did there and returns to the mainland. Since not many outside of Vvardenfell itself would know his face, it's very thinkable that he would be able to go unrecognized. The only thing that might seem strange is his lack of skill after returning to the mainland (although stranger things have happened). Buuut, I'll accept that

The universe is open enough that you can role play such a scenario. I do think it is a possibility, but also highly improbable. Each major event in the Scrolls seems to be geared towards a specific hero with a specific birth at a specific time, set to fill the role of a specifically fated being (Nevarine, Last defender of the Septim's, Eternal Champion). Despite the ambiguity of some (not all) the heroes' fates, (the CoC for instance is metamorphed by the Grey March) there's still something very specific about the circumstances and fates of the heroes.

I think this is purposely left open, though not necessarily encouraged, by the central design philosophy of The Elder Scrolls. Why on earth this poor immortal sap keeps ending up in prison is a question left open to you (and what keeps happening to his or her abilities each time?) but the character is yours. The most interesting bit of The Elder Scrolls mythology is purposely what they don't write; its what you do in-game.

You can, but I wouldn't. It's just bad writing.

Teeeeeechnically, the Nerevarine is called "Dragon-born and far star marked." So he could be Dovahkiin.

But I agree with most other people here: it's possible, but history will remember each hero as a different person, which, according to the laws of the ES universe, means that myth will actually make them different people in the end.

Isn't it obvious by now that all the heroes are the ur-hero shattered through time?

Ah. I was looking at the question from a practical perspective, not a mythical/metaphysical one.

There is nothing except for in-game abilities(no natural disease immunity. Highest, and only, ability is at 75%) that say you can't. It is a question about personal preference, but even if the lore(and most people including myself) will treat them as different people you don't have too. The no ageing ensures that you can be the Nerevarine in OB and MW, if you want

Bethesda left the fate of the Nerevarine after Morrowind mysterious. There's a rumor in Oblivion that says the Nerevarine went to Akavir, but why did the Nerevarine go to Akavir? Did he ever get there? Is he still there? Did he return? Or is the rumor actually false? You can decide that for yourself, as I see it, the Akavir thing was a convenient way to write the Nerevarine out of the picture without actually telling us for certain what happened to him, so we can decide for ourselves. For your own role-playing purposes, you can say whatever you want about what happened to your Nerevarine after Morrowind, the only canon details about the protagonists of the Elder Scrolls are their roles to play in their respective games' storylines. Who they were or what they did before or after that is intentionally left up to the player to decide.

Though, I'd say having the Champion of Cyrodiil be the same person as the Nerevarine introduces a few questions, namely, what happened to the Nerevarine's abilities? Now, you might be able to argue that your skills reverting back to a level one state are due to being out of practice for a long period of time, but that doesn't explain what happened to the disease immunity, that seems like kind of a big thing to leave unexplained, but if you can come up with a good explanation, then go ahead, I say. Now, It's not what I'd do personally, but it's your fan fiction, you can do what you like with it.