Dear to whom it may concern whom works for Bethesda and/or Obsidian,
It is no small secret that games produced by Bethesda are buggy pieces of crap. Gamers as a whole have been subjected to this, and most have come to accept the fact that to some degree, they are going to have to put up with a lot of bugs, glitches, and game crashes. Although while some of these can be overlooked as minor in most other games, Bethesda games now harbor an infestation level of bugs of a monumental scale. As of recently trying to support your company, and spending an additional $50 for the Ultimate Edition of FNV, on top of the $15 I had already spent on the original game, I am frankly appalled there are still the exact same bugs & crashes, if not more of them, in my Ultimate Edition, than the original game I purchased a few months ago! In the sixteen or so something months that the game has been out, I realize there have been numerous patches to fix hundreds of bugs (which for a company as large & prolific as Bethesda to release a major title to have that many is shameful) the fact that there have still been no fixes to game crashes leaves me almost breathless. Upon getting my copy of the Ultimate Edition, I have had hardly a single day of playing that has not had a game freeze happen. Why is this the case? Was the engine used for Fo3 really so bad that there is no way to fix game crashes beyond re-writing the entire thing? Is there no more work being done to support FNV, even though your company is still releasing brand new copies of it, and charging nearly full price for a game over a year old? I feel very ripped off right now, having a game I can't even play for an hour without having to fully restart my console, and start over where I began. I already spend the few months I had with FNV in saving nearly constantly, slowing down my game and lessening my enjoyment of it, for fear of some game breaking bug, or glitch ruining my progress. So all of that being said, I have but a simple request, as a gamer and customer: Please fix Fallout New Vegas. I have a great time playing it, and as a gamer, it reminds me of the "good old days" of Fallout 1, 2 and Brotherhood of Steel. As a customer though, I am viewing it as a bad product, pushed out by a bad company, and I hate thinking of Bethesda, or Obsidian, or anyone associated with them as people like that. I sincerely hope this problem is handled seriously, and swiftly. Thank you for your time.

Are you kidding me?

Tactics also has Brotherhood of Steel in its title, so he may mean that too (the good old days would suggest that, but of course you never know).

Could just tell us the problem without a block of text that is nothing but a rant. I did see something about it freezes alot on you. Could check the section of the forum that is all about problems and how to fix said problems.

http://www.gamesas.com/forum/109-fallout-new-vegas-hardware-and-software-issues/

He could of put Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel, or just call it Tactics like all of us do.

They don't care.
They now have your money, and unless you want to throw more their way, they don't give 2 [censored] about you.
It's sad that this is indeed the case, but like I said, once you give them your cash..... They no longer have a need nor a desire to help.

I hope that the title is a Bioshock reference, that's the only redeeming quality of this whole thread (and the only thing that would make it unique from the 200 others just like it).

Agreed, there sure are a lot of threads about fixing the game.... It gets old.

On the other hand I see where he's coming from, you shouldn't have to spend $50 on a game that's over a year old, and in that time still hasn't fixed the same ole bugs n glitches. Ultimate should have cleared a few of em up, but from what I've read it hasn't at all.

Did you do any research what so ever? If you know they're buggy, then don't play them twit.

I saw countless reviews before deciding to buy this game. The G4's X-play review said it was chock full of bugs.

After knowing how buggy "these games" are, you still bought it? What did it cost you if you're just playing it for the first time $10?

At this point, I could call you a MORON or a TROLL, but I won't because I respect you as a fellow forum goer.

games have bugs , the only way u are gonna get a game free of bugs / crashes is if u play an mmo wich u have to pay money every month so they can afford to hire ppl for this purpose


off topic i think he works for Interplay ( they lost the trial Vs Bethseda ) , can't wait for the next fallout game

Well this section isn't nearly as bad as the Skyrim section.

But I just bought the UE for the PS3 and it's laggy sometimes, other than that I freaking love it! But I know Bethesda games have a harder time on PS3s because of the massive amount of memory that their games take up. But games like Fallout: New Vegas and Skyrim have so much content.

So far no game breaking bugs or hardware issues. I should be fine.

Sorry, accidental double post.

Oh man, I think I laughed for a good solid minute there. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Seriously though, OP, those old games (Fallout 1 and especially Fallout 2) were also buggy as hell. You should be kicking yourself for paying extra money for a second copy of the same product you had a gripe with AND personal experience with.

Queue

The game its self, has on it that it contains all of the same content.

You seem to be able to type properly, by any chance do you lack the same ability in the reading department?

One last thing to punch in the face, those good old' days were also buggy as hell from what I remember. A many games are, & will be.

Ok, just to clarify when I said "Brotherhood of Steel" then yes I did mean Tactics. I never played that adventure game based on Fallout, as I mostly had the same view with it as I did with Fallout 3 originally. Not 3rd person top down view = not a Fallout game.

The problem? Where should I start? When the console would freeze when I tried to hotkey the Desperado Cowboy hat, on multiple occassions in a row? Or when the game froze yesterday, like I said, after not even playing it an hour. My problem is, that Bethesda re-released a game, with additional content, that still has all of the same problems it always has. SublimeWander, I am starting to think they don't care, as I read on Wikipedia that after FNV was released, Bethesda practically begged customers to not return the game to stores, and working on fixing the 200+ bugs that were prevalent when the game was released. THAT is the reason why I waited so long to buy FNV in the first place, but I also had a strange, strong urge to buy the UE, hoping that first off, it would give Bethesda a reason to continue to support FNV, and also I recall seeing it would be only $30, and actually cheaper to buy that, then all of the add ons seperately. (Call me crazy, please...was I the only one who saw it listed as $30...?)

RPGnut, you're a moron and a troll yourself, who obviously didn't read any of my post whatsoever. To those of you who say this thread is old, and there are countless others, I did not see a single one like it on the first page of the forums, so sorry that I don't want to waste time going through several pages worth of threads when I can start a new one with my own purpose & intent behind it.

LOL, I actually do NOT work for Interplay, I wish I did. Queue, I do remember they had bugs, but the amount of them were not even comparable, not even a fraction to what we see nowadays. I can remember one XP exploit in FO1, and...that's about it. While playing through Fallout 3, I recorded 200+ bugs on my own, and also 50+ while playing through New Vegas, which is terrible considering they had to remove the 200 something bugs from the game previously to that! Yes I know how to read, write, and correct spelling & grammar, tyvm. Honestly I'm just shocked that so many of you seem to accept the fact that "Oh the games have bugs, whatever" and go about your merry way. Would you have the same reaction if the stereo never worked in your brand new car, and the CD skipped anytime you put it in? I highly doubt I'm asking for much. Fallout New Vegas was an insane commercial success. I strongly doubt it would harm or hinder Bethesda & Obsidian in any way financially to help to improve their image as game creators by fixing the crashes & bugs that still plague this game.

I think either Sony will have to figure a way to make it easier for devs to port games to PS3, or devs will simply have to invest more time themselves into getting things right as PS3 seems to get real short shrift on cross-platform releases.

I mean, I've got it on the 360 and I've gotten to level 45, a good distance into LR before I head back to the mojave to finish the game, and it's not frozen on me once. I've had the odd frame rate drop now and again, and my brain in OWB got stuck in a loop, and that's about it. The only other thing I see is the occasional animal stuck in a rock. Oh how I laughed and teabagged at that deathclaw. It was even funnier when it managed to work free of the rock and took my face off

Well they are done with New Vegas, no more patches are going to be released. I suggest you try using either the wiki or Google to solve the problems rather then ranting about them on here. I have bugs on my copy as I'm sure everyone else does, but they stopped being game breaking after the first patch got released.

I know Bieltan, I think this is probably a problem with Bethesda trying to push the graphics envelope far too far with their games. Sure, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, etc all looked great & amazing when they were released. But these are RPG's, not First Person Shooters. I think this is the reason why games also are notoriously buggy, they are not even sure how they are working with their own game engine, which is creating massive bugs & glitches.

Lobotomite, I would gladly sit yet again, and now on my 2nd playthrough just happily ignore all of the possible bugs in the game. However my main concern is with game freezing. There is no way I can avoid it, nor know about it. How am I supposed to know that hotkeying a cowboy hat would cause the game to crash? Or that randomly while in combat, attacking with an unarmed weapon would cause a freeze? I'm here to stand up to Bethesda, to say that no, it's not right to re-release a game that is still broken for $50, and not continue to support it any further. I stand by my original point: Fix the game so that it is 100% playable, not "Oh, it works sometimes".

I don't think it has really much to do with graphics. It has to do with the sheer size and content of their games. Also, peoples experiences with bugs and hardware issues depends on their situation. Someone could be playing on ps3 and have little to no issues. While another person is playing in ps3 and they have game breaking bugs and issues.

But Bethesda is notorious for having problems with their games on ps3's.

See, I don't think the graphical quality has anything to do with the ps3's issues, as it's got more grunt than the 360. It's to do with the difference in programming for the ps3 and other consoles. I dunno, it's a shame really, that Sony pushing the envelope has had this effect. Makes me think that if they continue down that path we'll see a lot more platform exclusive releases, which makes me sadface. I don't want to have to fork out for 2 bloody consoles!

Agreed. I mean, we could easily continue making games at the level the XBox 360 is at for the next decade, if companies weren't so greedy to sell games purely on "newer, shinier graphics!" I don't think it's fair that consoles should be held to the same scale as some thousand, and multi thousand dollar PC's, in terms of graphics, etc. Yeah, as much as I love Playstation, I pretty much refuse to buy a PS3. For one, I also hate console exclusive content, unless it's purposely a game that was created only on, or for that game system (Like Microsoft's Halo, etc.) That and I don't want to shell out money on the Playstation Store just so I can play my old PS1 and PS2 games on it.