would you like to see a little bit of a ragdoll effect? : Othor Games

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:08 am

wouldnt it be cool to shoot someone mid air and watch a sort of ragdoll effect in this game?

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:08 am

wouldnt it be cool to shoot someone mid air and watch a sort of ragdoll effect in this game?

Ragdoll effects in video games are just ridiculous...when a real person is shot with a gun, even a high caliber magnum, they just slump down where they stand...they aren't knocked back like what is shown in movies and video games.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:48 am

Ragdoll effects in video games are just ridiculous...when a real person is shot with a gun, even a high caliber magnum, they just slump down where they stand...they aren't knocked back like what is shown in movies and video games.

I think what hes talking about is just a limp body and not programmed animated deaths.

I've been a fan of ragdoll ever since it was created. Sure, something things are ridiculous but nothing says funny like an explosion going off at percisely the right moment to launch a body past you at Mach 8.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:36 am

Ragdoll effects in video games are just ridiculous...when a real person is shot with a gun, even a high caliber magnum, they just slump down where they stand...they aren't knocked back like what is shown in movies and video games.

Soooo ... what's wrong with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DPTmode56M&#t=183s then? :teehee:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:40 am

Soooo ... what's wrong with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DPTmode56M&#t=183s then? :teehee:

Oh. My. God.

I think what hes talking about is just a limp body and not programmed animated deaths.

I've been a fan of ragdoll ever since it was created. Sure, something things are ridiculous but nothing says funny like an explosion going off at percisely the right moment to launch a body past you at Mach 8.

My problem with ragdoll is that they don't just go limp...they go flying across the map/do flips/etc., as Rev's link shows. There isn't ragdoll in Brink because character's have to land on their back in an incapped postion in order to be revived. Well, there is if you kill someone when they are incapped, but it doesn't do that much, which sits just fine with me.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:11 pm

I'm not to sure that this would work in Brink since you have to be incapacitated before you are killed.
:starwars:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:35 am

ragdoll effects just looks lame to me lol, shoot someone they fly off in a random direction at 100 MPH

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:03 am

There are ragdoll effects on bodies when they are killed. Not incapacitated, but killed. Not anything extreme though. They just sort of go limp and let gravity do its thing.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:22 pm

I'm just waiting for this to be implemented into games. http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/78051/PC/Overgrowth/Developer-Diary/Active-Ragdoll-Video

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:22 pm

Since ragdoll is unpredictable I don't think it would work with the incapacitation system in place. That doesn't mean that I don't think there should be a few varied canned animations depending on where you are getting hit on the body...... ya know, to add a little variety and sense of reward when downing an enemy player.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:11 pm

I'm just waiting for this to be implemented into games. http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/78051/PC/Overgrowth/Developer-Diary/Active-Ragdoll-Video

That's actually really cool.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:38 pm

I'm just waiting for this to be implemented into games. http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/78051/PC/Overgrowth/Developer-Diary/Active-Ragdoll-Video

THAT is exactly how it should be implemented! That was [censored] awesome - they take a shotgun slug to the gut, fly 2 meters backwards, then hold their gut/head/face/whatever and writhe around on the floor (incapacitated); waiting to be finished off.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:52 am

THAT is exactly how it should be implemented! That was [censored] awesome - they take a shotgun slug to the gut, fly 2 meters backwards, then hold their gut/head/face/whatever and writhe around on the floor (incapacitated); waiting to be finished off.

That's the big problem...people think shotgun slugs carry bodies...in fact it'd just tear right through the person, and the person would just fall limp...he wouldn't go flying.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:42 am

That's the big problem...people think shotgun slugs carry bodies...in fact it'd just tear right through the person, and the person would just fall limp...he wouldn't go flying.

Do you not think that it falls in with the style of game that BRINK is? Overealistic. No-one has 4-inch noses either - but it enhances our enjoyment of the game.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:56 am

In my opinion it wouldn't fit in Brink, cause theres already the incap animation, which is shown in the "Ready and Able" video where an enemy is incapped while falling he remains in the incapped animation.

Also, that Overgrowth video was pretty interesting, it was the closest thing to "realistic" ragdoll.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:03 pm

Do you not think that it falls in with the style of game that BRINK is? Overealistic. No-one has 4-inch noses either - but it enhances our enjoyment of the game.

Does the "4 inch noses" really enhance your enjoyment of the game. When you heard the noses were 4 inches long, did you think, "wow, it's going to be a ton more fun now?"

People do fly back a ways and sit in the incapped position. And as I said, I'm really against how ragdolls are treated in games today as a whole.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:51 pm

overgrowth is something special each time they come out with a video I am like, damn that is sixy i need to pre order it already - I wouldn't mind it in the game but it's to late now I think this game is hyper stylized anyways so it would of probably fit in.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:51 am

Does the "4 inch noses" really enhance your enjoyment of the game. When you heard the noses were 4 inches long, did you think, "wow, it's going to be a ton more fun now?"

People do fly back a ways and sit in the incapped position. And as I said, I'm really against how ragdolls are treated in games today as a whole.

1. That was in fact the sole reason i decided to pre-order the game.
2. They don't always have to land straight on their ass though, they could roll into the incapacitated position.
3. Ragdolls clearly have no place in call of duty/battlefield/medal of honor, but i think that a little ragdoll wouldn't go amiss in BRINK.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:09 am

Ragdoll effects in video games are just ridiculous...when a real person is shot with a gun, even a high caliber magnum, they just slump down where they stand...they aren't knocked back like what is shown in movies and video games.

Again, it's that old argument should games be realistic which in my opinion they shouldn't be. A real person can't get killed by a gun and come back to life after 10 seconds.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:16 am

Again, it's that old argument should games be realistic which in my opinion they shouldn't be. A real person can't get killed by a gun and come back to life after 10 seconds.

Games that claim to be realistic should stand by their statements and make ragdolls at least somewhat realistic, instead of sending people across the room though. Amiright?

1. That was in fact the sole reason i decided to pre-order the game.
2. They don't always have to land straight on their ass though, they could roll into the incapacitated position.
3. Ragdolls clearly have no place in call of duty/battlefield/medal of honor, but i think that a little ragdoll wouldn't go amiss in BRINK.

1. ok
2. A small animation doesn't really matter that much. Also, rolling could interfere with the downed fire ability.
3. I'd argue the opposite. In COD, Battlefield, and MoH, they should have ragdolls, albeit realistic ragdolls that fall, but not fly. In Brink, someone needs to know whether or not they've incapped someone, so there's the exaggerated animation of a character falling down. Also makes it easier for medics to find incapped teammates, as they'd learn to recognize the general shape of an incapped character.

P.S. There is a "little ragdoll" in Brink. When someone is killed, not incapped.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:59 am

"1. ok
2. A small animation doesn't really matter that much. Also, rolling could interfere with the downed fire ability.
3. I'd argue the opposite. In COD, Battlefield, and MoH, they should have ragdolls, albeit realistic ragdolls that fall, but not fly. In Brink, someone needs to know whether or not they've incapped someone, so there's the exaggerated animation of a character falling down. Also makes it easier for medics to find incapped teammates, as they'd learn to recognize the general shape of an incapped character.

P.S. There is a "little ragdoll" in Brink. When someone is killed, not incapped."

1. I'm glad you share my views about big noses being hilarious
2. The roll/ movement would never take longer than about 2 seconds, and as soon as they hit their ass they could shoot.
3. When I said 'ragdoll' I meant flying ragdoll, not just the COD 'on the cross, sniped in the face pose' before slumping to the ground. I also think i'm right in saying that all enemies go into an incapacitated state before being killed (so you would'nt just forget about them and think they are dead). And if it was implemented in my way- the enemy may fly a bit (but not for very long), and then they would sit on their ass in the incapacitated pose, so that medics can recognise them, and enemies can kill them. Simple.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:48 am

"1. ok
2. A small animation doesn't really matter that much. Also, rolling could interfere with the downed fire ability.
3. I'd argue the opposite. In COD, Battlefield, and MoH, they should have ragdolls, albeit realistic ragdolls that fall, but not fly. In Brink, someone needs to know whether or not they've incapped someone, so there's the exaggerated animation of a character falling down. Also makes it easier for medics to find incapped teammates, as they'd learn to recognize the general shape of an incapped character.

P.S. There is a "little ragdoll" in Brink. When someone is killed, not incapped."

1. I'm glad you share my views about big noses being hilarious
2. The roll/ movement would never take longer than about 2 seconds, and as soon as they hit their ass they could shoot.
3. When I said 'ragdoll' I meant flying ragdoll, not just the COD 'on the cross, sniped in the face pose' before slumping to the ground. If someone was shot in the head, their head might whip back, but their body would just slump. I also think i'm right in saying that all enemies go into an incapacitated state before being killed (so you would just forget about them and think they are dead). And if it was implemented in my way- the enemy may fly a bit (but not for very long), and then they would sit on their ass in the incapacitated pose, so that medics can recognise them, and enemies can kill them. Simple.

1. ok
2. You're knocked down, disoriented, can only use your sidearm, they have the jump on you, and your vision is blurry. I think you'll need those 2 seconds.
3. Yes, and when I say ragdoll, I mean ragdoll, not this flying ragdoll crap, and not COD death animations (they don't use ragdolls). And I just said that. When you kill someone, they have an animation where they fly back away from you and land on their ass. That's not a ragdoll. Simple.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:51 am

1. ok
2. You're knocked down, disoriented, can only use your sidearm, they have the jump on you, and your vision is blurry. I think you'll need those 2 seconds.
3. Yes, and when I say ragdoll, I mean ragdoll, not this flying ragdoll crap, and not COD death animations (they don't use ragdolls). And I just said that. When you kill someone, they have an animation where they fly back away from you and land on their ass. That's not a ragdoll. Simple.

Last-stand can shove it - the harder it is for them to succeed from their ass, the better.
I know that most games have ragdoll, but for BRINK, i want the 'flying crap'

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:38 am

Last-stand can shove it - the harder it is for them to succeed from their ass, the better.
I know that most games have ragdoll, but for BRINK, i want the 'flying crap'

They already have a disadvantage; they have less incap health if they have downed fire. You want to completely nerf the ability now, giving the attacker an extra two seconds to react and the incapped guy has less health?

So if a well organized team goes in and gets slaughtered, their bodies are thrown all over instead of staying close to each other, making it a game of hide and seek for the medic?

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:56 pm

It's been said before. Rag doll effects are pretty much overrated and overused. Also won't fit Brink atomsphere.