Nah, too much hating.I'm pretty sure they are going to implement some sort of new technology in the future, and it won't be nuclear weapons, nor shuttles.I know you guys fear that, this is going to turn into another Fallout or Fable, but no - it's not going to happen.Bethesda knows how to develop a game, it's not like they are idiots and are going to turn TES into Sci-fi.

No, I said it's a good thing that short sighted and unimaginative people aren't game designers. An example of these people are the ones posting 'no' answers without reading what others have said or really thinking about how it could be made to work, or even to what extent it would be implemented.



Then you are short sighted. You would so jealously guard the TES franchise that you wouldn't even see a non canon spinoff made by a different ZeniMax subsidiary that deals with a small evolution of technology in TES?

With you at the helm of BGS we'd still be playing Arena.

Yes, this discussion get's tiresome... we should not be so angry about it.

The guys und girls at gamesas probably know more about game design, than we do. That's the main point... stagnancy never makes anyone excited. It's just blocks out creativity and fun. The two main aspects of games.

My statement was clearly directed at those who want more than limited advancement in such a way that the only way to accomplish it would be to change previously established lore. And yes, it clearly if you had read my previous posts and noted that the entire time I used the word "widespread" advancement, not "limited."

Okay I understand what you're saying now.



So because I'm not for a non-canon spin-off (that I feel cheapens any series) that can introduce new technology gives you the ability to call me a short-sighted unimaginative individual who if was in control of a series wouldn't allow such series to grow? Hmm...

The extent to which it 'cheapens the series' is the same degree as the importance you put on such a spinoff. And I mentioned in a previous post that it needn't even be a game. How about a book? An interactive online campaign? I'm just throwing it out there to show people that not every little change needs to be gambled on the major instalments.

NO!

lol so putting little bits of technology is innovative.

those that say no to it (because they are aware you're not talking about anything small) are shortsighted.

the TES series is apparently stagnant because the type of technology YOU want to see hasn't appeared yet or was shown.

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The TES series is like the Oceans of earth and we of course are the Humans striving to go to moon/mars. the moon/mars being all the cool new doo dads / wave of the future that we're just becoming aware of, and the Ocean is the existing lore. we've so much detail about the TES universe AND STILL we don't know jack squat in a sense. its been there forever, so much left unturned, unspokoen, unseen. but who cares there are 2 dead celestial bodies out there lets go take a look!

See where im going?

I find it disheartning you referenced the series to the same ebb and flow of conflicts etc etc and that we who enjoy it as it is because we are well are of how complicated and freakishly awesome things can get in the series; are shortsighted.

and all you want to see are some rails.


like I said side by side, the TES universe technologically outpaced us hilariously, They Have Airships, gear driven lifts, trap swing blades, remotely activated doors, Telescopes, Portals that go to other realms,etc etc etc. and most of those things exist in ruins....

No.


and its No not because Im shortsighted, or stubborn or whatever other nonsense you want to spew just because I don't agree with your reasonings. its because its not needed, the people in the TES universe get along fairly well without it and its setting doesn't allow for whatever "advancements" to last very long.

The Romans got along 'fairly well' too, but you didn't see them going "hey guys, we've got it so sweet here. Only 60% of women die in childbirth! Let's never invent anything ever again!"

That might be because the 60% bit was pulled out of "nowhere" :hubbahubba:, but also because it would be unfathomably stupid for humanity as a whole to think that they had it pretty cool so no reason trying to - you know - progress.

But the TES universe is progressing, just not how we are.

And I'm gonna throw the lol card in named "if it aint broke don't fix it"

each race is able to raise armies, HELL that case Divayth Fir was able to clone himself.... bliviongate:



(lol! CarBuncle when did that happen? and to who? in your sig)

Non-Canon Spin-offs are [censored], Greatcarbuncle. Terrible idea. Let gamesas make the series. I would rather they jealously guard their games than let some other company with more "vision and innovation" as you might say, but less respect for the established framework have a go at it. And windmills/irrigation don't need to be shown. I don't need to see how the people of the Imperial City get their food. It'd be neat, sure, but why would they waste time on something like that?

Oh, and for non-canon spin-offs... I think someone should write a book about the Lord of the Rings where the Easterlings had guns, in fact ,and they return and wipe out Gondor. And they reforge the One Ring with magic powers. Oh, and then they build steam-powered gizmos from trains, to shuttles, to airships.. Yeah, it's okay it makes no sense, it's non-canon. Even if it cheapens the idea of Tolkien's world and makes it look like EVERY OTHER FANTASY RPG THAT DECIDES TO ADVANCE. I respect TES because it doesn't follow all of the traditional fantasy conventions (even in Oblivion's Cyrodiil made it look like it did).

I agree with both of these things. I realise that I've probably come across as a little too pro TES technology advancement. I'm more of the opinion that if BGS decided to do it I'm extremely confident that there are myriad ways in which it can be done without compromising the TES setting.


It was after the Eurogamer-we-heard-on-a-plane-someone-was-talking-about-TES:V-so-it-might-be-nearly-done rumour. I jokingly said that we couldn't rule out the possibility that the person talking on the plane regularly walked around talking loudly on a mobile about "TES:V" just to have fun with journalists. It was not taken as a joke.


True, yes. I was just proving the point that technological advance needn't be explored in a major TES instalment. The non canon bit would be an emergency escape in case it was done really badly, and the 'other studios' but was to pacify people who would say to stop wasting BGS' time.

I try to please.

No thank you.

TESX: Earth?

:confused: no lol no need to please anyone, what if I was a trollish -Cens- that wailed and fluttered around without reason?

:slap:

Guess who doesn't get the Award For Actually Reading The Thread.

Pull me out a statistic of high death of childbithrting wemens, POX death, in the TES series with healing magic and i ll side with you. But i want real numbers, the names of the people doing the statistics, the names of the interviewed, people, race, age, what kind of math you did to chose the number of interviewed people to be fairly representative of the population and so on, something really serious you know..

DOOOO-YOOOOUUUU-HAAAAAVEEE-AAAAAA-BRAAIIIIIN ? BRA-IN ?
- No use, he doesn t understand the concept...

This.

I'll go and do that research. While I'm at it, how about you work on finding me any evidence that shows that the median standard of living has declined since Roman times due to advances in technology. I think you have the harder task.

not really, no.
but i do think someone should finally realize that they can just enchant a box with a frost spell and make a damn fridge. is that so hard to figure out?

No advances, at least none of real change definitely no guns or cannon or gunpowder related, just want wheeled vehicles brought back, wagons I mean chariots would be cool to lol.

Using magic to create a devise is also technology.

People just arbitrarily vote no because they think technology = gunpowder.

If anything, technology has gone backwards in the 30 years at which the TES games took place according to the lore.
No public teleportation system, no potions that make you fly, no golems, no airships...

is only logical that they do

When you have magic, you don't need irrigation pipes. If I get an alterner to warp the ground, we have irrigation. If we have magic, we don't need cranes when we can just telekenetically move something ro cast levitation. WE DO NOT NEED TECH.

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

It's a matter of having the people around who are that proficient with magic though, and people who don't have the magic having the means to solicit those who do. It's not as simple as 'magic solves everything'.