Would you be offended by a WWII game

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:11 am

In terms of history I find WWI the far more interesting conflict but you're right about the difficulties in making this work - trench warfare in particular would be extremely difficult.


I can certainly think of a way they could do it. It wouldn't involve much time in the trenches themselves, but it could be done. I can even see a way of charging across no man's land. That would have to be kept to a minimum, though.
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Jessica Thomson
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:54 am

I find it odd that people seem to expect they would be seeing things like the political motivations and personal beliefs/behavior's of their soldier, as if any of the standard WW2 games ever do that.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:59 pm

I wouldn't mind what so ever, personally I would love a campaign of the german retreat and the to the end of the war. Personally I find fighting and running away for your life can sometimes be quite more exciting than victory all the time.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:34 am

I never said that atrocities weren't carried out by both sides. However even a game where you played a German soldier at the front rather that someone involved in more unseemly activities is going to have some serious image problems - when you really take a measured look at the situation there may be little reason this game is treated different than one where you play for the Allies but in terms of practicality image is important.

I totally agree :(
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:09 am

Playing as a member of the Wehrmacht in WW2? I don't have a problem with it. Playing as an actual Nazi? That's not so much fun.

Personally I'd like to see a game that featured the Bundeswehr. Or any nation that wasn't the US, China, Russia or the UK for that matter.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:52 am

Nope, I'd encourage it if it did their point of view well and in a realistic manner.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:52 am

pretty much the whole Silent Hunter series (apart from SH4, and even that got an expansion pack about it) is you taking command of a U-Boat and sinking Allied merchants and battleships. atmospheric as hell. love those games (even SH5, haters gonna hate). i'm positive there's flight sims that cover the Axis perspective, too, but i'm bad at flying so i'm not up to date on them.

also the Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield 2 is a FANTASTIC WW2 manshoot offering combat on both sides in numerous scenarios, though that's all multiplayer so there's no CAMPAIGN to cause controversy. it's amazing stuff, though - even after years of hearing it for comedic purposes in cartoons, the sound of a Stuka diving above me managed to be one of the single most terrifying sounds i've ever heard.

i'd really like to see World War II shooters make a comeback in interesting ways. Africa Corps stuff would be awesome. i liked the mission in CoD2 where you're America and you're pushing in to take Wallendar, and i'd really like to see it from the German perspective. i always loved Call of Duty's Russian campaigns - they had a really nice atmosphere about them, since they were on the HOME FRONT and it felt sort of personal; the idea of actually being on the losing side in a wargame and having to experience those defeats while defending your homeland sounds incredible.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:17 am

No, it's a game, I don't see why that should offend me in the slightest. I don't actively try to be offended like it seems most people do these days, I prefer being reasonable.

Seeing it from the other side would be interesting, I don't care if the virtual people I murder are american, german or martian. They are not real and that's all that matters.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:36 am

In terms of history I find WWI the far more interesting conflict but you're right about the difficulties in making this work - trench warfare in particular would be extremely difficult.

As do I :nod:. There's a lot I'm tempted to say about it, but that'd be straying a fair ways off topic.

In terms of making it work, the non-European areas would mostly avoid trenches, but may still have obstacles.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:59 pm

I want to play a game as a German or Soviet soldier on the eastern front in the dead of winter with survival elements such as finding warm places to stay for the night, edible food, and warm, dry pieces of clothes. Maybe a German who's the only one left of his company/unit and tries to make his way back to a base?

Perhaps a Mercenary who's looking for someone while all this fighting is going on and it can be a sandbox game with survival elements. Basically like STALKER but in the winter in the eastern front in WWII.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:13 am

Games that put you on the Eastern Front hit home. Why?? Because you have Russians executing innocent men who are just following orders. Russians killing German soldiers ANNND civilians cause of one crazy guy. It really shows you how much the Eastern Front is shown. But we don't see it in the Germans eyes, only in a Russians.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:08 am

I could see it working if they made a really dramatic ending. What I think would be really cool is if you played as both the Allied force, and the Axis force, whatever they may be, and eventually have the two forces you play as have the final battle of the game.

For example, the game focuses on a part of the Russian army and a part of the German army. The game switches back and forth between playable armies (similar to CoD having you play as British, American, Russian soldiers) until the last battle in the game, Berlin. Then, the player can either choose to fight as the Germans and get the really dramatic, sad ending that grips you, or they can choose to play as the Russians and get the dramatic ending that gives you a sense of accomplishment and valor. Both endings would have the playable soldier from each side meet up with each other in an intense close quarters fight. If you chose the German side, the playable soldier for that army would be the last one that you see die, and is killed by the playable soldier in the Russian army, but if you played as the Russians, the ending would consist of the German soldier stabbing your character, where he would be killed by an allies bullet, leaving you to slowly bleed to death as your comrades carry you to a medic.

Either way, I think it would be a really good idea to have a game where you get to play as the opposite side.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:32 pm

I don't see why not, I mean, you do in every multiplayer WWII game don't you? So why not singleplayer...
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:54 pm

I wouldn't be offended at all. I wish more games were like Civil War: A Nation Divided were you could play both sides. Not that it was a good game, but they had the right idea.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:03 am

It would be more realistic. Also, it would have to stick to battles. No "extra-curricular" activities.

It really wouldn't surprise me if they included something.... on the side like that. Hell, we got to shoot up an airport full of civilians in Modern Warfare 2, you can't go much more controversial than that.

You can play in many games as the Russians, what is wrong as being able to play as the Wehrmacht?

Because the Russians... were... on our side (at least from Stalingrad forward)? :huh:

Not that I have a problem with playing as the Wehrmacht, but I don't really see your point here.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:48 am

I think it would be cool if they really showed off what the heck the Nazi's may have been thinking. Plenty of movie style scenes of your character joining the Nazi Party after reading Mein Kampf and seeing all the propaganda and believing it or something like that. With plenty of period German music and great attention to detail I would like it. But if it was Call Of Duty without the "America Rules" ending? No thank you.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:57 pm

Why would you want to play the side that lost?

Unless you did a game where the past was altered and they won, which would be cool.


Actually, I like games where you lose in the end. Almost every game that comes out I can pretty much assume that "the good guys win" and I'm accurate 99.9% of the time.

Basically, winning has become far too typical. I think that if the characters lose it makes them seem more realistic. It also brings out emotions that games don't usually touch on, as well as the feeling that you failed somehow.

This is one of the reasons that I want the Gears of War trilogy to end in failure. It's too awesome to have them win, or win without some massive cost.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:39 am

And there's lots of games that allow you to play as Axis powers.

Indeed there are lots of games. And I'm not offended by them.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:23 am

I personally would not be offended but I'm sure it would offend many who did experience the war or are relatives of those who have experienced the war.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:17 am

Nope, I was dying for an Axis campaign in Company of Heroes. The Wermacht and the Panzergrenadiers have far more interesting tanks and such than the boring old Americans.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:30 am

I'd like to, it'd be a unique experience, but as Lucky 38, if it does a derp move and makes it some split history so it can spawn god aweful sequels? No thanks.

But I think it'd be interesting, maybe make it more story base, start it out over glorifying the Axis Party and it's ideals at the time then your character, who could be some fresh out of High School kid blinded by the propaganda (Which happes alot here in the US) then over time, he comes to see the world as it really is, and whats truly happening, or something to those lines.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 am

Axis and Allies (yes it is also a video game) you can choose to be the US, Britain, Russia, Japan, or Germany.
It has the board game portion, but also the RTS. you can do original battles, or do the campaigns based on WWII.
and yes, you can change how the campaigns play out, and even choose your general, such as Rommel.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:10 am

Actually, I like games where you lose in the end. Almost every game that comes out I can pretty much assume that "the good guys win" and I'm accurate 99.9% of the time.

Basically, winning has become far too typical. I think that if the characters lose it makes them seem more realistic. It also brings out emotions that games don't usually touch on, as well as the feeling that you failed somehow.


We need more games Like RDR

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How John dies in the end. That was unexpected.



I'd like to, it'd be a unique experience, but as Lucky 38, if it does a derp move and makes it some split history so it can spawn god aweful sequels? No thanks.

But I think it'd be interesting, maybe make it more story base, start it out over glorifying the Axis Party and it's ideals at the time then your character, who could be some fresh out of High School kid blinded by the propaganda (Which happes alot here in the US) then over time, he comes to see the world as it really is, and whats truly happening, or something to those lines.



Exactly what I was thinking. Then maybe he tries to escape Germany and ends up failing which ends up with a moving emotional execution with all his comrades and family watching him get shot in the firing line. (ala Valkyrie)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:54 am

How bout a WWI game? You know, so we can sit in a trench for 10 straight days, one of the missions is to clean out the latrines, next day you have to kill rats. Theres a meter at the top for trench foot, stay in the water too long or don't take you socks off afterwards will make it rise.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:53 am

How bout a WWI game? You know, so we can sit in a trench for 10 straight days, one of the missions is to clean out the latrines, next day you have to kill rats. Theres a meter at the top for trench foot, stay in the water too long or don't take you socks off afterwards will make it rise.



A WWI game can be done. But it would have to be very hard (like before CoD came out), extremely short (do you really want to do 10 different trench missions?), with various levels other then FPS including Blimps Bi Planes and boats, and a great storyline about a teen who got drafted.

Actually sounds pretty good to me.
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