Would you play as a mixed Race?

Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:33 am

Imagine a orc mixed with a khajiit. :ninja:


http://www.imperial-library.info/dogate/mw_easter_eggs.shtml#Orcish Khajiit
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Mark Churchman
 
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:40 am

Isn't Bretons halfbreeds?

Yes they are. They're the result of CENTURIES of isolated breeding between the Nedic people (proto-men) and Aldmer (proto-mer). And I stress the centuries and isolated part.

Wasn't there a case of inbreeding before in Oblivion with a vampire and orc?

no, the Gray Prince is the first mention of a successful vampire-normal breeding. In his case, he was pretty much all orc, but is gray only because of his dad's curse curse (more accurately, the disease) transferring through, not because his dad is an imperial. If his dad was just a normal imperial, he'd look like any ol' orc.
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:13 pm

I put maybe, as in I might roleplay one, but since picking a mixed race character would be absolutely indistinguishable from simply picking the mother's race's character I don't think they should spend time and space putting in several of exactly the same thing.
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:50 am

no, the Gray Prince is the first mention of a successful vampire-normal breeding. In his case, he was pretty much all orc, but is gray only because of his dad's curse curse (more accurately, the disease) transferring through, not because his dad is an imperial. If his dad was just a normal imperial, he'd look like any ol' orc.

Do you think they just did that due to game limitations? I mean part of having a kid is having half of your genes passed down. If the mother's override all of the father's genes, then I don't see why there's a point, since all of the women of the same race in Tamriel would all be virtually indistinguishable, since there's no mixing going on at all.

It's also mentioned the Symmachus was tall, and it was rumored that he was part Nord.
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:49 pm

I'd much rather they spent time giving the experience of playing each race a unique feel than adding mixed-race characters. The "resembles mother's race" approach (plus a bit of fiddling with char gen sliders) opens the door for RPing a multi-race character if I decide I wish to. I don't particularly want more support than that.
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:29 pm

No, a purebred Redgaurd cannot be beat
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:10 am

No, a pure-bread Redgaurd cannot be beat


A Redguard made out of bread? That's silly!




(I think you mean purebred - no "a" and no dash)
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:49 am

A Redguard made out of bread? That's silly!




(I think you mean purebred - no "a" and no dash)

Yeah, thanks
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:24 am

I would rather have we establish the current races fully, before adding new ones, mix or otherwise. Although, I would kill for a http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sload
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:56 am

Honestly, only choosing from 10 races in Vanilla Oblivion seemed too restricting.

Most RPGs offer no race choice. And even if they do, it's human/elf/dwarf or something similiar. I've used only 4 races out of 10 in my whole TES career: I find it hard to immerse in an elf, orc or a beast-creature. Heck, my current character (TES2) is the first Redguard I've ever made!!

I'm perfectly ok with 10.
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:44 pm

Do you think they just did that due to game limitations? I mean part of having a kid is having half of your genes passed down. If the mother's override all of the father's genes, then I don't see why there's a point, since all of the women of the same race in Tamriel would all be virtually indistinguishable, since there's no mixing going on at all.

There's mixing, but it's more of the dad's genes are there very subtly, and there's seems to be a likely chance that the environment a race lives in causes it to change when it moves away the main group after a few centuries. But as I said earlier, the bretons are a hybrid race of centuries of isolated breeding between the aldmer and nedics, which eventually caused the two races to became the race known as the Bretons. Hell, when the nords first arrived to High Rock, they thought the bretons were some mer needing to be killed as High Rock was inhabited by men who looked like mer. But the whole mother's race bit is pretty much there so that Bethesda does not have to deal with orc-imperial hybrids and the sort, thus turning 10 races into 100, if you catch my drift.

But just to make sure everyone gets it, the bretons are the only half-elves in TES. For the sake of which race belongs where, it's bosmer, altmer, dunmer, and orsimer (orcs) are all mer (elves). Bretons, imperials (more accurately Colovians and Nibenese), redguard, and nords are humans. Khajiit are decended from mer, but were changed by Azura by linking them to the Lunar Lattice to stabilize their form when [censored] was crazy during the extremely early parts of Nirn's creation. As for the argonians, they're linked to the Hist, so they're completely separated from the men and mer division, and very likely to not be compatible, as men and mer were at one point the same race.

It's also mentioned the Symmachus was tall, and it was rumored that he was part Nord.

There's Dunmac Dwarf-Orc, but that's more of a "Yo mama is so fat" kind of deal. As for me, I'd say it's not really because he is part nord, but bigger than your average dunmer (he did work in the mines, so he probably looked stronger than the norm). However, it is not too far off to say he may have some nord blood in him, as the nords did used to live in Morrowind way back in the day and continue to launch raids in Morrowind.

For obligatory reasons, http://www.imperial-library.info/content/oblivion-racial-phylogeny-and-biology. If you read it carefully, it leaves room for some interpretation, just not 50:50s, more like an implied ~95:~5 Mother:Father genes. Magical manipulation is likely to happen also, but that's feels it's something to require a lot of power. This, of course, doesn't matter with mods as those who have access to them (PCs) can fill a mold they wish, though those on the consoles could manipulate a race's looks and color enough to roleplay a hybrid without Bethesda having to bend too out of shape. Hell, I made a dunmer with green skin like an orc when I was fooling around once with the race creator.
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:45 am

Yes, I would play as a Breton...
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Johanna Van Drunick
 
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:59 am

Yes, I would play as a Breton...

I see what you did thar.
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:03 am

One problem with having mixed races is the way NPC's would react to you. Lots of people are racist in Tamriel. It's bad enough being an Argonian in most provinces, but an Argonian half breed? Ouch. However, not all half breeds would be recognizable by sight. It could get complicated.
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:38 pm

If a mixed race character was more of a 50-50 mix or at least had strong traits of both mother and father it might be quite fun to play around with the concept, however, in Elder Scrolls lore, as previously pointed out, the resulting child is mostly from the mothers race. Personnaly I think it'd be pointless to have them.
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:01 pm

...

I've read that book before, that's the one that got me thinking about mixed race people in Tamriel a while back.

I know a lot about bits and pieces of specific subjects of lore. :shrug:

Anyway, you can prettymuch make any mixed-type person you want with the character generation, like you said. You just have to choose what you want to base it off of. If you want a half-woodelf half-breton, you could just figure out who the mother was and then give a few traits of the father, like the Elven high-eyebrows, or the Breton skin-tone.
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:32 pm

Imagine a orc mixed with a khajiit. :ninja:

You mean like http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1857?
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:08 am

You mean like http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1857?

... They actually aren't as creepy as I imagined... they look cool.
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Post » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:53 pm

Sorry, but cross-breeds in TES result in a life-form that is basically of the mother's race, with a few traits of the Father. So Orc mother and Imperial father gets you a grey orc.


haha I voted no after I read this XD no crossed races thats how the orcs were made so no to that XD
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:38 am

I would like to be a 1/2 Dunmer 1/4 Bosmer and 1/4 Altmer character. It would be cool.

I would also like to be a 1/2 Redguard 1/2 Imperial character.
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Jacob Phillips
 
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:26 am

M'aiq thinks his people are beautiful. <_<
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Marine Arrègle
 
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:36 am

Ugh, realy did not need the image of a sload mating with a human. Or what their offspring would look like.
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:24 am

Ugh, realy did not need the image of a sload mating with a human. Or what their offspring would look like.

Neither did I. Thank you for sharing. Now I'm in dire need of brain bleach.
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Emily Rose
 
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:31 am

I'd love to experiment with different half-races.

I'd try a.....Breton (I love magic) crossed with a Khajiit.

I'd imagine a hot female cat-woman, agile, magical and mainly human, but with a tail and some fur.

Or, I'd like to see how unstoppable a Nord/Orc combo would be.
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Tiffany Carter
 
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Post » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:16 am

I think it might be cool but overall it would kill the lore I think if you started out that way you would have to have a run in with a necromancer and have a mage save you but the seperation spell backfired so your stuck that way unless you go on a quest for the gods. I might like it but I would onlylike it if it was some way like my Idea.


I voted no.
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