We need a Fallout in another country.

If you suggest that Australia was untouched by Nuclear War then its very simple.

You cannot say we'd collapse due to the amount of reliance we have on imports and exports for two reasons.

1. Fallout is a different universe where countries are a lot more politically isolated from one another, we would of had to have adapted.

2. Imports and exports in Australia falls along the lines of crap that is often not essential for survival. In Australia we have raw materials, food and water, the main things we need to survive as a nation.

I also think that its worth noting that in no way would Australia allow anyone to come to its shores. They would block it off from everyone except New Zealand. The Survival and prosperity of the Australian people would be the Prime Minister's first concern, with no UN in place there's no rule telling us to do anything. They'd either tell them to move along or we'd sink their ships.

I highly doubt this has all happened to Australia, I think we were hit in the Fallout Universe and we still survived.

If we were so unaffected, we'd be the most powerful nation in the Fallout Universe, and there would probably be Australian SASR doing reconnaissance in America to see if anyone survived. Then they'd see the Enclave and BoS and probably think to themselves 'Screw this, yanks are killin' each other. Lets go check up on England'.

If you suggest that Australia was untouched by Nuclear War, but Fallout doesn't and neither does current politics.

Luckily, I was summering on Easter Island when the bombs dropped.

I am willing to suspend logic and reason when it comes to Fallout.

Although Australia is not a member of NATO they often take the side of Britain and the US because of a common language.
Countries in Africa would not become superpowers as they lack natural resources, except in the Congo, and historically have been divided, linguistically and culturally.
It is widely known that many South American countries rely on monocropping, which is an agriculture practice that relies heavily on the survival of a global economy.

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In Australia we can live off our crops we import food only when it;s out of season or we have exported it lol i know it sounds silly but where I live there is a orange farm but the oranges in the supermarket are from US becuase the farms exports to the US so US is eating australian oranges and we are eating US oranages where has the world come to. but yeahh we can live off our own food

We don't need NATO our support of the US is becuase of the ANZUS treaty (however New Zealand is not a full member for disallowing us nuklea ship in docks) also we have the UK becuase we are appart of the commonwelth.

Also NATO is 'Military alliance of democratic states in Europe and North America.' Australia is none of that thats why we have ANZUS. We are just importent as NATo funny I know someone in Afgan and US keeps asking for NATO assets when they get us Aussies. So yeah don't think it's just NATO and the US, US have more friends that are not in North America and Eurpoe

It's a matter of seasons : when it's orange season down south most of them are probably local. 6 month later most are from the US.

And a note about australian agriculture : how much is it reliant on imported machinery, fuel, fertlizers and pesticides ? The breakdown of trade combined with climate alteration can screw things pretty badly.

Depending on their positions, various area could escape relatively unscathed environment wise, but silde back on technology.

remeber that australia Has massive uranium deposites that would have made them a major player in the oil crisis and following resource wars, so it is likely that at least the major cities would have gotten hit (and canberra ).

Ahh, l love how everyone suddenly becomes a Nuclear Physicist on the topic of a worldwide Nuclear holocaust. However, l do agree with some of you, but you guys bring me much amusemant. ^_^

thats strange, why would Norway survive but not Sweden and Finland? we got nukes aimed at us but not Norway, a member country of NATO?

Well...I think according to the Fallout world there might be, and I'm not a Fallout historian but I can tell ya the much I know from the Fallout 1 trailer. It really doesn't matter, because the makers of the game didn't decide to put anything about a survived country in the history of the game. The guy in the trailer says, most of the world.....that means a big % of the world was hit by the nukes. Maybe later on they might reveal a country untouched, but you also have to look at as....back in the minds of the people in the 50's, if a nuclear war happened it meant pretty much the whole world would be destroyed.

Watch this and what the guy says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_srLsECzGY

I surmised in a story I 'm writing that parts of South Africa would be missed. Not the cities, but parts of the countryside, giving way for hardy SA boers to rebuild a state on the ruins of Apartheid, where they were already isolated from the rest of global economics.
So in the story there is a population of maybe 50.000 in SA that have something of a stable economic state going, some factories are up, and there is a small sense of tranquility lane about.
Not that Africa didn't take a hit though.. I just rename animals from molerat into boar-hare and a rhinox is something nasty as well.

Considering that some radiation spread all the way to Western Europe after Chernobyl (IIRC it was picked up all the way from America, and its been linked to an increase in cancer rates since 1986) I'm going to assume that all out nuclear would probably engulf the entire planet in lethal amounts of radiation.

Colin Moriarty is also from Europe, ie Ireland, from the UK like Tenpenny, so that makes me think that the UK got hit hard. As our population over here is incredibly dense, we'd all be obliterated.

In terms of nuclear missle attack, Australia has a few primary targets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jindalee_over-the-horizon_radar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Communication_Station_Harold_E._Holt

There's also the possibility Australia developed a nuclear capacity instead of going the non-proliferation route as in our world. I doubt anything survived in Australia in the Fallout universe.

Now I may be mistaken, but I do believe that Moriarty was from the Irish Republic and not Northern Ireland.

if u want your own little peice of heaven in the capital wastleland (well not egzactly yourr own it belongs to a giant talking tree) go to the oasis. Setting that tree on fire was fun hehehe

The third world countries like Philippines, some african contries would survive the cultures of these countries might allow them to survive

I wouldn't call the Philippines third world - 48th largest economy in the world (larger than New Zealand which is definately not 3rd world), industrialised economy (30% of GDP). Given that after WW2, the Philippines was the 2nd wealthiest country in Asia, it might have remained an economic powerhouse in Fallout's universe.

Not quite, volcano's were around for much longer already as a proper source of inspiration, also in those ancient times people more than ever understood the incredible value the sun posed to life on earth. So it isn't that hard to make such predictions, also, men has made thousands upon thousand of such predictions throughout time, so one being actually pretty close to the real thing is not that exceptional. Furthermore, they weren't very detailled descriptions either, they never depicted humans spliting inconceivably small particles which make up pretty much everything in the universe, containing tremendous power which happened to be the nuclear force. So no, not that amazing.

This will tell you everything you need to know about the rest of the World! =====> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mcJAI6oRYY Even if there is an area that was not hit by the nuclear bombs the area would still be damaged by chaos that would follow after the end of the world. I see no area of the world left untouched by the Great War.

As for all this crap about Colin and Tenpenny coming from the UK and Ireland.

Did it say "since he ended up in this country from Ireland?" If not, implying that he came from another county could mean that the united states has many new countries. "republic of dave" ring any bells?. The message hints but does not state clearly that he's from the Ireland."

If we do see someone from another country from Asia or Europe, That person better have clear proof and one hell of a story. Until then there can be many explanations for them having accents and messages like the one on Colin's computer.

There is nothing in Fallout 3 that says Tenpenny or Colin are from The UK. Beth just messed up and gave them UK Accents. If they came all that way I am sure there would be more proof then just their Accents. People can have accents but never live in that nation.

Films are in the fallout universe we have never seen any (outside of a vault) but we have seen them made. It's possible Colin, Tenpenny and Loxley from FO1 watched movies with British actors and picked it up from them. Loxley in fallout one got is accent from a Robin Hood book. There could be some community just outside the DC wasteland were the people came from a Vault that only had files and tv shows with British people.

Or they just figured that the ladies love an Irish/British accent

Finally, after so many ignorant (simply meaning miss-informed) somebody gets that Australia is self reliant enough to survive, but considered by so many to be insignificant, to be ignored by enemies in the Fallout world. :celebration: :foodndrink:

(This post is simply the product of the previous posts that made me :banghead: )

i think its likely that theres A New Republic Of Ireland in america, made up of Irish immigrants and Irish Americans.