Today is a very dark day indeed, for I must ask a question. I hang my head in shame and beg that you hear my story before you stone me. I have read, and I have read, and I have poked and tweaked and sometimes cursed my keyboard, but none of that has helped. So today I turn to the experts. My game will CTD every time if the bashed patch is activated. Every time. I have stripped the game back down to the base game plus official content and unofficial patches. That is all. The game is perfect if I launch without the patch being activated, but no matter how I try to build it, the result is certain CTD if I activate the patch.

This all started as I came back to Oblivion and wanted to play with an updated FCOM setup. I kept having issues so thought I should make this as simple as possible and start from there. I stripped out all my mods and reinstalled a copy of the data folder with just the basics in it. This was no help. I tried starting with a clean copy of the bashed patch, and I tried deleting the Oblivion .ini file so it would regenerate a fresh one.

The game is installed on a dedicated hard drive (NOT in the default C drive) and is patched to the last version with Shivering Isles and the unofficial patches. I installed Wrye Python using the new 03a-22368 package and Wrye bash is currently at v.291. Everything seems to work exactly like it should, and even rebuilding the patch is much faster now that I have learned to de-select "replace form IDs" when I rebuild the patch. I looked for a bash bug-dump file and could not find it, but I created one per the instructions. All it says is "already started".

This is not my "first rodeo" so to speak. I have been running a modded Oblivion for quite a long time, and I installed everything very carefully and made sure that it all functioned correctly from the start. I continue to crash hard after the speech, The mod list is all green, and the mod checker shows no conflicts. Any help here could be appreciated.

Thank You

Try not importing actor spells from FCOM Convergence. That fixed it for me.

But didn't it cause a CTD on startup in your (and some others) case? The OP seems to get a CTD after the speech if I understand it correctly, i.e. when the prison cell should load. If so my guess would be that it's caused by not having the MMM.bsa renamed correctly - it's a usual cause for that anyway.

No, not merged leveled lists. I mean merged object records.

wow, that was fast. Guys, I don't have FCOM installed right now....I uninstalled all my mods trying to simplify sorting out the bashed patch issue. The crash is right after the emperors speech, which means a crash right before the jail cell in vanilla, or at character creation (I tend to keep alternate start mod as a short cut). I have tried it with and without the alternate start mod, no change. In both cases the crash is after the speech, not a launch event.

wow, that was fast. Guys, I don't have FCOM installed right now....I uninstalled all my mods trying to simplify sorting out the bashed patch issue. The crash is right after the emperors speech, which means a crash right before the jail cell in vanilla, or at character creation (I tend to keep alternate start mod as a short cut). I have tried it with and without the alternate start mod, no change. In both cases the crash is after the speech, not a launch event.

Not ever having asked a question before I now have to ask a second.....how do I go about posting my load order in this forum? Anything else I need to post that could help?

thanks

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Master .ESM date: Mon Jan 01 02:56:00 2001
FCOM not detected.
OOO not detected.
Better Cities not detected.


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Recognised and re-ordered mod files:
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Oblivion.esm
. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 1191 $, $Date: 2010-07-27 01:00:31 -0700 (Tue, 27 Jul 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Music,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM.
. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relev,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

DLCHorseArmor.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Scripts}}

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Conflicts with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.

DLCThievesDen.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light,Actors.AIPackages}}

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,Relev,Stats}}

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur.
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}} and remove the C.Climate and C.Light tags

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIData,Relations,Stats}}

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relations,Invent}}

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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Unrecognised mod files:
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Done.

btw,....I have tried a clean copy of the bash patch as well as deleting the Oblivion .ini file.

To clarify, this crashes only with the bashed patch active? Without bashed patch is is OK?

If so, did you try just building the patch with one option at a time and testing?

What OBSE plugins do you have installed?

What non esp mods do you have installed with this?

okay great


yep, I keep meaning to do some backporting and other stuff... any particular desires for Mash to have?
Pacific Morrowind

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That is correct.




I have not yet. I thought I had stripped it down far enough find the problem.





I am running OBSE 18, and have pluggy 132, fastexit, and elys universal silent voices




I am not currently running any other mods, just the vanilla Oblivion esm, Shivering Isles, Knights of the Nine expansion pack, and the official patches (SI 1.2.0416) and unofficial patches (oblivion patch 3.2.0, SI patch 140, mods patch 15, and UOP supplemental). There are no resources installed, or any Meshes or Textures changed.

Like I said, I've been running a modded Oblivion for years now and have never had to ask a question, but this one has me lost. I'm sure its something I am not seeing here.