[Jamie Moysey]

I have just upgraded from v295 to v295.5 and I wanted to say what an absolutely marvellous job you have done - no problems with the install and, bar one problem, everything I tested worked perfectly with no issues starting Oblivion and loading my saved game.

The one problem I had relates to changed behaviour in dealing with doc files and related images that worked before but no longer works for me because they are skipped. Nothing I have tried can get them installed.

There are two complex packages that have these doc files...

Package 1    00 Sub-Package    :    :    00 Sub-Package n    Package 1.html    Doc Image.jpgPackage 2    00 Sub-Package    :    :    00 Sub-Package n    Package 1.htm

Have I missed some new way to get HTML files and any related images to the Docs folder or is there some new way I need to package the mods so that they get copied. They currently show on Skipped tab under Skipped (Dir)

Any advice or guidance will be very welcome.

Edit:
Might be good to recognise a Docs folder in a BAIN package as documentation that should be copied to the Bash Docs folder.

[Robert Bindley]

@surazal : reported - search thread for Eloise
Docs is fine but having them on top level is also useful - for easy access - till BAIN associates them with packages automatically that is

[Sammykins]

@surazal : reported - search thread for Eloise
Docs is fine but having them on top level is also useful - for easy access - till BAIN associates them with packages automatically that is

Thanks for that - at least I know how to fix the problem (although I don't fancy doing updates to my BAIN packaged mods for this).

Still quite like the idea of being able to have a Docs folder at the top level, whose contents are always copied to Data\Docs

[sally coker]

Just updated bash (standalone) and have a message:

Wrye Bash could not determine which game to manage.  The following games have been detected, please select one to manage.To preven this message in the future, use the -g command line argument to specify the game

No Skyrim on my computer>

[Erin S]

I've had this issue with WB 295.1 that if I fiddled around in the Installers tab, and later tried to rebuild bashed patch (Cbash), it would always crash. If I started WB fresh, and rebuilt patch without changing tabs (OK to change from Mods to Saves, ini or Screenshots, but NOT Installers), then the bashed patch is built fine.

Upgraded to WB 295.5 yesterday, tried building patch after fiddling around with files in the Installers tab. Crashed with the following error report:

Spoiler

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "F:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\basher.py", line 5349, in OnCloseWindow
self.SaveSettings()
File "F:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\basher.py", line 5361, in SaveSettings
self.notebook.GetPage(index).OnCloseWindow()
File "F:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\basher.py", line 2554, in OnCloseWindow
bosh.modInfos.table.save()
File "F:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bolt.py", line 2158, in save
self.hasChanged = not dictFile.save()
File "F:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bosh.py", line 315, in save
saved = bolt.PickleDict.save(self)
File "F:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bolt.py", line 1910, in save
cPickle.dump(data,out,-1)
MemoryError

Again, it's fine if I build bashed patch after starting WB fresh.

Thought I'd mention and see if that helps you figure it out.

Specs:
Win 7 64 bit
6 GB RAM, intel i7 930, 80 GB SSD
WB standalone w/ CBash 0.53 bashed patch

[Oceavision]

I've had this issue with WB 295.1 that if I fiddled around in the Installers tab, and later tried to rebuild bashed patch (Cbash), it would always crash. If I started WB fresh, and rebuilt patch without changing tabs (OK to change from Mods to Saves, ini or Screenshots, but NOT Installers), then the bashed patch is built fine.

Upgraded to WB 295.5 yesterday, tried building patch after fiddling around with files in the Installers tab. Crashed with the following error report:

Thought it worth mentioning that following pretty much the same sequence with the Python version did NOT give me any problems (just upgraded from v295 to v295.5 - both non-standalone)

[Crystal Birch]

Alright, 295-5 works great on one of my installs, on the other...not so much.

Go to the installer's tab, it takes over 10 minutes scanning the files, calculating CRS, etc etc, until finally spitting out this error:

Spoiler

bash\bosho:11557: UnicodeWarning: Unicode unequal comparison failed to convert both arguments to Unicode - interpreting them as being unequal
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bash\basher", line 4901, in OnShowPage
File "bash\basher", line 3536, in OnShow
File "bash\bosh", line 12082, in refresh
File "bash\bosh", line 12292, in refreshInstallers
File "bash\bosh", line 10999, in refreshBasic
File "bash\bosh", line 10913, in refreshDataSizeCrc
File "bash\bolt", line 1168, in join
File "ntpath.pyo", line 108, in join
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x82 in position 65: ordinal not in range(128)

Here is the list of my packages:

Bain Packages:

Spoiler

-- 000 - HGEC_sixy_armor_replacer_1_20-24194.7z (F8F0E506) (Not Installed)-- 001 - hg_stockcloth_skimpier_patch-18641.rar (0A58C077) (Not Installed)++ 002 - See_You_Sleep-16005-1-5-2.zip (B9BD3692) (Installed)-- 003 - v9_3-36883-9-3.7z (0303A189) (Not Installed)-- 004 - v3-37075-3-0.7z (89B714FE) (Not Installed)++ 005 - Unofficial_Patch_Supplementals-27710-3-3-7.7z (7807463F) (Installed)++ 006 - Undies_Underneath-15767-4-4-7.7z (B9FDE12C) (Installed)-- 007 - R18PN_Collection_Mesh_-_Texture_Pack-36626-4-5.7z (B60C8F11) (Not Installed)-- 008 - SpeedBuster_Collection_Mesh_-_Texture_Pack-36626-4-5.7z (7F9C9552) (Not Installed)-- 009 - SG_Armors_Collection_Mesh_-_Texture_Pack-36626-4-6.7z (9116FE82) (Not Installed)-- 010 - Gabriellas_sixy_Boutique_NO-BC_esp_4_7a-36626-4-7a.7z (FC4E4EBC) (Not Installed)-- 011 - corean-15568.7z (5FBDFC9A) (Not Installed)-- 012 - addclosedmouthversion-15568.7z (11B12C1B) (Not Installed)-- 013 - coreanhair-15568.7z (9D56C712) (Not Installed)-- 014 - Chocolate_Elves_v14_7zip-18247.7z (C886A4C6) (Not Installed)++ 015 - Formid_Finder_451-16704.7z (1E1A14D3) (Installed)++ 016 - Cobl_172-21104.7z (BFECAEE3) (Installed)++ 017 - AULIAS_1_2_5-39635-1-2-5.zip (D33DD594) (Installed)-- 018 - Lightweight_Potions_1_1-25714.rar (4B50CD85) (Not Installed)++ 019 - Real_High_Heels_for_RF_adapted_Vipcxj_and_HGEC-37396.rar (D424AA62) (Installed)++ 020 - BBB for Elven Princess.7z (2671248F) (Installed)++ 021 - Full Metal Bikini Complete.7z (6FA874FB) (Installed)++ 022 - WEPON_Base_Install_Oblivion_and_SI-35560.7z (CFFEDBED) (Installed)++ 023 - Bisquits Real High Heels Vipcxjs.7z (43EFF333) (Installed)++ 024 - Neo Morrigan.7z (1CB5E549) (Installed)++ 025 - CLS_Part1And_2-33863.7z (9D90C0E6) (Installed)++ 026 - More_Valuable_Gem_Prices-40007-1.rar (975A534F) (Installed)++ 027 - sixy Maid of Chorrol.7z (6309C46F) (Installed)++ 028 - Naughty_Joana_Beta_Fixed-15070.7z (1D36850E) (Installed)-- 029 - Colourwheel's sixy Oblivion Overhaul 6.0.7z (DAA0857A) (Not Installed)++ 030 - Map_Marker_Overhaul_3_9_3-26389-3-9-3.7z (B482FFD0) (Installed)++ 031 - New_Roads_and_Bridges_Revised-20218-4-6-3.7z (BC8658FD) (Installed)++ 032 - Dynamic_Map_2_1_1-35969.7z (4FB40C92) (Installed)++ 033 - Alluring Potion Bottles 3.7z (67946DE6) (Installed)++ 034 - Unique_Signs-25314.zip (FC0A6D23) (Installed)++ 035 - Sensual_Walks_BAIN-28223-1.7z (7D556EA6) (Installed)++ 036 - NoMaaM BBB Animation Replacer V3_1.7z (F0CDEAD9) (Installed)++ 037 - Womans Move - Animation Replacer.7z (9711DE81) (Installed)++ 038 - Stylish Jump 1.0.rar (BF2A29FD) (Installed)++ 039 - Stylish Jump Feminine.7z (A3594441) (Installed)-- 040 - Neph's Custom Animation Replacer.7z (0F104B00) (Not Installed)-- 041 - sixualized Monsters.7z (1DD5C3B8) (Not Installed)++ 042 - Oblivion Stutter Reducer.7z (5C85D510) (Installed)++ 043 - EVE_HGEC_BodyStock_and_Clothing_Wrye_Bash_BAIN_-24078.7z (4C684974) (Installed)++ 044 - Colourwheels sixy Oblivion Overhaul 6.5.7z (7B09E12C) (Installed)-- 045 - Mini Micro Bikini v11-16656.7z (625C4349) (Not Installed)++ 046 - Better Benirus Manor BAIN-18054.7z (DAFB5033) (Installed)++ 047 - No_Vampirism-11083.rar (0A92BD55) (Installed)++ 048 - Better_Silverware-27825.7z (98A77F98) (Installed)++ 049 - Twinkling Gold.7z (233D86E7) (Installed)++ 050 - Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands-23146-v2-01.7z (2E184049) (Installed)++ 051 - Argonian Replacer.rar (93351AB7) (Installed)++ 052 - Estrus.7z (902F12AB) (Installed)++ 053 - Estrus BBB.7z (47C74601) (Installed)++ 054 - Humanlike Spriggan.7z (6D50A2EB) (Installed)++ 055 - Water Nymphs v06-15138.7z (4856A3A6) (Installed)++ 056 - HUD_Status_Bars_5_3_2-34905-5-3-2.7z (D86122AC) (Installed)++ 057 - Oblivion_XP_4-1-9a-35333-4-1-9a.7z (9371B513) (Installed)++ 058 - BBB_for_Neos_Morrigan_Suit-39735-1-666.7z (C599BE91) (Installed)++ 059 - Portable_Sorters_v1dot3-25436.7z (2501E3EF) (Installed)++ 060 - Storage_Sacks_v1dot3-25012.7z (4C867ABD) (Installed)++ 061 - Summon_Luggage_v1dot0-23854.zip (13535767) (Installed)++ 062 - HGEC Bloodrayne Armor-20623.zip (30056EB1) (Installed)++ 063 - Third_Person_Crosshair_Alternative-2706.7z (EB2283AC) (Installed)-- 064 - ARES_v1_0_1F_beta-41244.7z (71FA5C8E) (Not Installed)++ 065 - TQP_v3-2-0-12859.zip (BDC2F3A5) (Installed)++ 066 - Oblivion Pose Pack III.7z (FB9990F0) (Installed)++ 067 - Automatic_Timescale_1_1_1-27352.rar (E192FD92) (Installed)++ 068 - Companion_MasterV5b-29652.rar (F924B4E0) (Installed)++ 069 - Companiongfriendly_Inns_0_9-33475.7z (582803D2) (Installed)++ 070 - CTAddPose_OTPair2-33100.7z (2560947C) (Installed)++ 071 - COEF.7z (32F023BE) (Installed)++ 072 - Lemundes_Retextured_Glass_Weapons-3021.7z (73304E12) (Installed)++ 073 - Exnem Pekka Pumps-13907.7z (2067D21C) (Installed)++ 074 - Exnem_Pekka_Pumps_vipcxj_HH_v1_1-37308.7z (C5604328) (Installed)++ 075 - West Roads 1_3-29523.7z (5E66D4EE) (Installed)++ 076 - Alluring Potion Bottles IdleObject Replacer.7z (F365BDE3) (Installed)++ 077 - Improved_Soulgems-4611.zip (A66FE30A) (Installed)++ 078 - Non-plastic_clouded_crystal_balls-20019.7z (9634558E) (Installed)++ 079 - Agea_Karan_LIGHT_Version_FIXED-25759.rar (49C87FE2) (Installed)++ 080 - BWisteria1_1-22232.7z (1A790441) (Installed)++ 081 - Glowing_Version_REGULAR_-25759.rar (394E4AAF) (Installed)++ 082 - sixy_Dark_Seducer_and_Golden_Saint_Armor_v1-0_-_BAIN-28649.7z (5C9D4DCF) (Installed)++ 083 - RefScope_2_1_2-21862-2-1-2.zip (A57B7DD5) (Installed)++ 084 - BBB_for_MoreRevealingArmors (029368AF) (Installed)++ 085 - YAARM-Fur-w-Cleavage BAIN.rar (02AD5804) (Installed)++ 086 - hg_stockcloth_armor_replace_11norm_ver2-18641.rar (DCEEA50F) (Installed)++ 087 - Skimpy Armor and Clothing Replacer.7z (E38F2237) (Installed)++ 088 - ULComp169-19370-1.7z (115FBE66) (Installed)++ 089 - UL Compatibility Patches Compilation WIZBAIN v8-13834-1.7z (6E54B647) (Installed)++ 090 - New_Roads_and_Bridges_Patches-20218-1.7z (029313C3) (Installed)++ 091 - Espless_Book_Replacer_V22-29358.7z (5B7017E1) (Installed)++ 092 - Book Jackets Oblivion High Res-5570.7z (70756A17) (Installed)++ 093 - Kvatch Rebuilt 202 FULL-15412.7z (DACDF161) (Installed)++ 094 - Kvatch_Rebuilt_21_UPDATE-15412-2-1.7z (D3314325) (Installed)++ 095 - Neph's Replacer Patch (14E76A33) (Installed)++ 096 - Neph's Replacer Textures (3920B42C) (Installed)++ 097 - Bloodrayne BBB (2096C9C6) (Installed)-- 098 - FLY LightGUTS BBB Iron Armor Replacer.7z (FE4F4C27) (Not Installed)++ 099 - Tattoo Armor.7z (74E2D66D) (Installed)++ 100 - BBB_for_Dans_Tattoo_Armor_HGEC-36071-1-0.7z (50386F44) (Installed)-- 101 - sixywalks by Mur Zik-18125 (8E7EFCDF) (Not Installed)-- 102 - sixywalks by Mur Zik Alternate-18125 (8B73DC2D) (Not Installed)-- 103 - sixywalks by Mur Zik Expressions-18125 (9D0B915C) (Not Installed)-- 104 - sixywalks by Mur Zik Faster-18125 (FE54CB90) (Not Installed)-- 105 - sixywalks by Mur Zik Fastest-18125 (0F7ED3ED) (Not Installed)106 - ==Last==

(yeah, I know this is a mess, my other install was BAIN from the getgo and is much, much more organized)

[Elina]

Thanks for that - at least I know how to fix the problem (although I don't fancy doing updates to my BAIN packaged mods for this).

Still quite like the idea of being able to have a Docs folder at the top level, whose contents are always copied to Data\Docs

Don't repackaage. I'm working on finding out where I messed up the behavior, and I'll make it work right again.

Just updated bash (standalone) and have a message:

Wrye Bash could not determine which game to manage.  The following games have been detected, please select one to manage.To preven this message in the future, use the -g command line argument to specify the game

No Skyrim on my computer>

What games did it say were detected. Also, generate a bugdump by launching Wrye Bash.exe with the '-d' switch, like so:

>"Wrye Bash.exe" -d

The bugdump will provide more information on the game detection process.

Alright, 295-5 works great on one of my installs, on the other...not so much.

Go to the installer's tab, it takes over 10 minutes scanning the files, calculating CRS, etc etc, until finally spitting out this error:

Spoiler

bash\bosho:11557: UnicodeWarning: Unicode unequal comparison failed to convert both arguments to Unicode - interpreting them as being unequal
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bash\basher", line 4901, in OnShowPage
File "bash\basher", line 3536, in OnShow
File "bash\bosh", line 12082, in refresh
File "bash\bosh", line 12292, in refreshInstallers
File "bash\bosh", line 10999, in refreshBasic
File "bash\bosh", line 10913, in refreshDataSizeCrc
File "bash\bolt", line 1168, in join
File "ntpath.pyo", line 108, in join
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x82 in position 65: ordinal not in range(128)

Looks like that install isn't actually 295.5 Those line numbers don't match what's in the 295.5 source code. Re-install (plus latest Game Definitions)

[Celestine Stardust]

Looks like that install isn't actually 295.5 Those line numbers don't match what's in the 295.5 source code. Re-install (plus latest Game Definitions)

Err...it says 295.5 up at the top, it doesn't work (which 295 does, which is how I got the BAIN list)

I'm not certain what I could possibly be doing wrong.

[Ruben Bernal]

The 295.5 part is pulled from Wrye Bash.txt

However, the error it spits out clearly shows me it isn't actually 295.5 If this is the standalone (looks like it), you can also double check by right clicking on the exe, select properties, and go to the details Tab.

In any case, at least try re-installing. I'm sure it will fix your problem.

[TWITTER.COM]

In any case, at least try re-installing. I'm sure it will fix your problem.

I've already installed it, found it it didn't work. Reinstalled 295, found it worked, installed 295.5 again to get the error message, installed 295 to do some work, and then 295.5 once more. I'll try installing 295.5 on top of 295.5, but I don't think thats the issue.

And yes, the EXE in the Mopy folder is 295.5

As I said, it works fine on my other installation.

Its processing the Installers now...

Edit: Yeah, still not working. The fact that it takes over 10 minutes to do it is a sure sign that somethign is wrong.

[Suzie Dalziel]

Well, something really odd is going on then. I don't know how, because that code isn't in the 295.5 build at that location. Have you re-downloaded 295.5 yet? I'll keep looking, but I really can't help if the error is telling you line numbers that aren't the same as what it's built with. After re-installing, did the line numbers in the error report change? Because if they did, then there's something I can go off of possibly.

Edit: A thought - do you have any other python files in this install, other than the updated game definitions?

[Nikki Hype]

I'm not even sure what I should be looking for.

[Charlotte Henderson]

Actually, looking at the traceback again, I see "bosho" at the top - that's a clue to me saying you have loose python files in the Mopy directory. Probably from installing the Standalone over top of an existing Python version.

With 295.5, I changed the exe so it'll load Python files if present instead of using the internal files. This allows me to push out game definition updates without having to re-release the whole program. Much easier to for me to upload, and users to download, a 35KB file instead of 3 files totaling ~35MB.

Anyway, go through your Mopy directory and subdirectory, and delete any .py, .pyw, and .pyc files, EXCEPT for 'Mopy\bash\oblivion.py' and 'Mopy\bash\skyrim.py'. These last two are the updated game definition files. You can also delete any file without a file extension (like 'bosho', or 'bashero' for example).

I'll have to remember to update the readme with this change to the behavior of the Standalone.

[Code Affinity]

Anyway, go through your Mopy directory and subdirectory, and delete any .py, .pyw, and .pyc files, EXCEPT for 'Mopy\bash\oblivion.py' and 'Mopy\bash\skyrim.py'. These last two are the updated game definition files. You can also delete any file without a file extension (like 'bosho', or 'bashero' for example).

Hmm..I don't seem to have either of those files.

Here is what my http://fencedude.com/Oblivion/WryeBashFolder.jpg folder looks like.

[LuBiE LoU]

What does this mean:

Error! Unable to start Wrye Bash.Please ensure Wrye Bash is correctly installed.Traceback (most recent call last):  File "F:\Bethesda Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bash.py", line 346, in main    import bosh  File "F:\Bethesda Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bosh.py", line 67, in     from chardet.universaldetector import UniversalDetector  File "F:\Bethesda Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\chardet\universaldetector.py", line 31, in     from mbcsgroupprober import MBCSGroupProber # multi-byte character sets  File "F:\Bethesda Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\chardet\mbcsgroupprober.py", line 36, in     from eucjpprober import EUCJPProberImportError: cannot import name EUCJPProber

[Charlie Sarson]

Anyway, go through your Mopy directory and subdirectory, and delete any .py, .pyw, and .pyc files, EXCEPT for 'Mopy\bash\oblivion.py' and 'Mopy\bash\skyrim.py'. These last two are the updated game definition files. You can also delete any file without a file extension (like 'bosho', or 'bashero' for example).

Here is what my http://fencedude.com/Oblivion/WryeBashFolder.jpg folder looks like.

That would be all those files like 'bash.py', 'bash.pyc', '__init__.py', etc. Except for the updated game defnition files.

What does this mean:

Error! Unable to start Wrye Bash.Please ensure Wrye Bash is correctly installed.Traceback (most recent call last):  File "F:\Bethesda Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bash.py", line 346, in main    import bosh  File "F:\Bethesda Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bosh.py", line 67, in     from chardet.universaldetector import UniversalDetector  File "F:\Bethesda Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\chardet\universaldetector.py", line 31, in     from mbcsgroupprober import MBCSGroupProber # multi-byte character sets  File "F:\Bethesda Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\chardet\mbcsgroupprober.py", line 36, in     from eucjpprober import EUCJPProberImportError: cannot import name EUCJPProber

Is this the same install that was giving you problems, with possible hard drive corruption? It means the unicode character detection library (Mopy\bash\chardet) isn't installed correctly. Specifically the file Mopy\bash\chardet\eucjpprober.py doesn't have the 'EUCJPProber' defined in it anymore. Sounds like the file got some lost data from your hard drive problems.

[Alexis Acevedo]

Is that file something that comes with Wrye bash or is it generated by Wrye Bash?

Umm no it is not the same install. This is for Nehrim - which was working.

[Emilie Joseph]

It comes with Wrye Bash. The contents should look like http://oblivionworks.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/oblivionworks/Tags/Wrye%20Bash/295.5/Mopy/bash/chardet/eucjpprober.py?revision=2264&view=markup.

[Blackdrak]

Installing it again and no love.

Restarting computer prompted another check disc. Here is the results:

Spoiler

Checking file system on F:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Games.

One of your disks needs to be checked for consistency. You
may cancel the disk check, but it is strongly recommended
that you continue.
Windows will now check the disk.
CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
847104 file records processed. File verification completed.
63 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed. 0 EA records processed. 0 reparse records processed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
The multi-sector header signature for VCN 0x0 of index $I30
in file 0x2a594 is incorrect.
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ................
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ................
Correcting error in index $I30 for file 173460.
The index bitmap $I30 in file 0x2a594 is incorrect.
Correcting error in index $I30 for file 173460.
The down pointer of current index entry with length 0x18 is invalid.
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 ................
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 5d 3c 90 ba 58 02 cc 01 ........]<..X...
6c 7a ae 2b 30 98 ca 01 e5 71 54 21 ea be cc 01 lz.+0....qT!....
Sorting index $I30 in file 173460.
Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x429698d000 for 0x1000 bytes.
The index buffer at VCN 0x0 of index $I30 in file 0x7b11f
cannot be read.
Correcting error in index $I30 for file 504095.
The index bitmap $I30 in file 0x7b11f is incorrect.
Correcting error in index $I30 for file 504095.
The down pointer of current index entry with length 0x18 is invalid.
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 ................
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 76 4f ef f8 c1 02 cc 01 ........vO......
00 01 2d 0f f8 54 c9 01 d1 2d 5a a6 59 c8 cc 01 ..-..T...-Z.Y...
Sorting index $I30 in file 504095.
900922 index entries processed. Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is scanning unindexed files for reconnect to their original directory.
Recovering orphaned file boots.dds (173461) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file cuirass1.dds (173463) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file cuirass2.dds (173464) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file GAUNTL~1.DDS (173465) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file gauntlets.dds (173465) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file greaves.dds (173466) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file helmet.dds (173467) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file shield.dds (173468) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file waraxe.dds (173469) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file WP.dds (173470) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file claymore.dds (345012) into directory file 173460.
Recovering orphaned file sabre1.dds (504096) into directory file 504095.
Recovering orphaned file SABRE1~1.DDS (504097) into directory file 504095.
Recovering orphaned file sabre1_optional.dds (504097) into directory file 504095.
Recovering orphaned file sabre2.dds (504098) into directory file 504095.
Recovering orphaned file sabre3.dds (504099) into directory file 504095.
Recovering orphaned file sabre4.dds (504100) into directory file 504095.
16 unindexed files scanned. Recovering orphaned file sabre5.dds (504101) into directory file 504095.
0 unindexed files recovered. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
847104 file SDs/SIDs processed. Security descriptor verification completed.
26909 data files processed. Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.
1023999999 KB total disk space.
354088784 KB in 779938 files.
365124 KB in 26911 indexes.
20 KB in bad sectors.
944415 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
668601656 KB available on disk.
4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
255999999 total allocation units on disk.
167150414 allocation units available on disk.
Internal Info:
00 ed 0c 00 cc 4f 0c 00 bf b3 17 00 00 00 00 00 .....O..........
e6 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

Both times for running check disck after having to do with opening wrye bash. The games seem to run fine - so what am I to think? Is this just hassles from porting installs over from another operating system (vista to win7) of is the hard drive failure?

Nehrim launcher won't update either.

[Melly Angelic]

Honestly it looks a slow hard disk failure. I don't know if you know how files are store on disk with NTFS, but here's a quick rundown (very simplified - to the point it's not technically correct anymore, but works for a general understanding):
NTFS reserves a chunk of the physical hard disk for the MFT (master file table). The MFT stores all the file entries. Each file entry has it's filename (without folder), and a part that points to the folder it exists in (another file entry), and a part that points to the actual pieces of the file (fragmented files have multiple chunks) on the hard disk.

What that check disk looks like its telling you is that some of the data in the MFT was broken (error in index $130 for file 173460). Then its saying it found a bunch of "orphaned" items, meaning items that say they exist in a folder, but that folder entry isn't in the MFT anymore (probably, it's # got changed when recoverring it, or it could be that the actual file entry got corrupted), then the log follows up with "but I was able to find the folder it was attached to, and reattached it". So that basically means it reconstructed the data.

That doesn't mean other data associated with that file entry is correct though: for example where it says its file pieces are could have messed up data - resulting in a user perspective of a file that still exists, but isn't the same size or has missing information, etc.

tl;dr: hate to break it to you, but in the long run it'll be better to get all that data off the drive now, rather than later. These things usually just get worse, and if you wait too long, you wont be able to get any of the data back (without crazy tools and labs that disassemble hard disks).

[Lauren Graves]

It was a WD caviar black.

I have another one ... I'll work on swapping them out ... but let me ask this - would it be a good idea to copy over all those installs and the BAIN folder or would it be better to just start with a fresh drive and install it all again? Like if there are errors in how data is recorded then might that not also trasfer over (data corruption not drive corruption)?

As ever - thanks.

[N Only WhiTe girl]

In case you miss this

svn 2262
Import Faces

Traceback (most recent call last):  File "D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\basher.py", line 15091, in Execute	self.FromSave(fileInfo,srcPath)  File "D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\basher.py", line 15104, in FromSave	srcFaces = bosh.PCFaces.save_getFaces(saveFile)  File "D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bosh.py", line 12991, in save_getFaces	playerFace = PCFaces.save_getPlayerFace(saveFile)  File "D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bosh.py", line 13071, in save_getPlayerFace	namePos = PCFaces.save_getNamePos(saveFile.fileInfo.name,data,saveFile.pcName)  File "D:\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\bash\bosh.py", line 12966, in save_getNamePos	namePos = data.find(pcName)UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x83 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128)

Also, http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9187301location.png.

[Susan Elizabeth]

I have another one ... I'll work on swapping them out ... but let me ask this - would it be a good idea to copy over all those installs and the BAIN folder or would it be better to just start with a fresh drive and install it all again? Like if there are errors in how data is recorded then might that not also trasfer over (data corruption not drive corruption)?

As ever - thanks.

Well, there probably isn't too much data that's corrupt. However, there isn't a good way to pick out what is corrupted and what isn't. Obviously some files in the Nehrim install location got corrupted, so definitely reinstall that from scratch. As for the others, as long as this hasn't been going on for a long time (doesn't sound like it), you might be safe just copying the files. The other install that was giving you problems probably also needs to be installed from scratch.

Good news is though, any archive you have should be safe: they store internal CRC's of all their files, so if they have corrupt data, the archive utility will tell you when it tries to read it.
Edit: and now that I think about it, since BAIN uses file CRC's as a means of identification, as long as everything outside of the 'Data' folder is reinstalled, Wrye Bash is reinstalled, and you verify all your archives are good, BAIN will tell you if any installed files are mismatched. This wont work for projects of course, since they source files in the project may have gotten corrupted. Not likely, for those installs you haven't had problems with though.

In case you miss this

Nope, just haven't gotten around to it yet. The pcName bit wont be too hard. The Location - got a decision here: currently we're using the Automatic encoding detection for that part. Think we should use the Plugin Encoding setting instead, since that string initially came from a CELL name in a plugin?

[gemma king]

I'm running into a problem Bashing that I've never seen before. It began when I added several mods so I'm not sure which one is the cause of it (I think its one of the LAME addons). Can someone tell me what this error means and if it is safe to ignore. The Bash Patch completes successfully despite throwing this error:

mgef_name: {1195657299L: u'Shock Damage', 1229343575L: u'Weakness to Fire', 1095455578L: u'Summon Skeleton Archer', 1330136922L: u'Summon Ghost', 842018906L: u'Summon Ancestor Guardian', 1163019354L: u'Summon Dremora', 925904986L: u'Summon Timber Wolf', 1095123521L: u'Absorb Fatigue', 1280133187L: u'Chameleon', 1095321178L: u'Summon Flame Atronach', 1229345618L: u'Resist Fire', 1095124804L: u'Damage Fatigue', 1229214546L: u'Resist Disease', 1263747649L: u'Absorb ', 1162363457L: u'Absorb Health', 1313100354L: u'Burden', 1297238083L: u'Charm', 1413698628L: u'Detect Life', 1515082310L: u'Frenzy', 1380010308L: u'Disintegrate Armor', 1230392905L: u'Invisibility', 1480677186L: u'Bound War Axe', 1313165391L: u'Open', 1129072210L: u'Reflect Spell', 1145849939L: u'Shield', 825241690L: u'Summon Spectral Warrior', 842084442L: u'Summon Mountain Lion', 1347572819L: u'Soul Trap', 858861658L: u'Summon Land Dreugh', 1380338519L: u'Weakness to Frost', 858796122L: u'Summon Spiderling', 942682202L: u'Summon Hunger', 959469378L: u'Bound Battle Axe', 1095586642L: u'Resist Magic', 875583298L: u'Bound Order', 1195657542L: u'Fire Damage', 875638874L: u'Summon Shambles', 1229215043L: u'Cure Disease', 1095124306L: u'Restore Fatigue', 1095127620L: u'Drain Fatigue', 1229212503L: u'Weakness to Disease', 875573338L: u'Summon Diminutive Minotaur', 1280332612L: u'Dispel', 909193306L: u'Summon Elytra', 1296843075L: u'Calm', 959459418L: u'Summon Dark Seducer', 925970522L: u'Summon Gnarl', 825307226L: u'Wabba Summon', 1280459866L: u'Summon Dremora Lord', 1095517018L: u'Summon Clannfear', 942747738L: u'Summon Baliwog', 1464748887L: u'Weakness to Normal Weapons', 1380340562L: u'Resist Frost', 1464750930L: u'Resist Normal Weapons', 808539970L: u'Bound Longsword', 1095911002L: u'Summon Frost Atronach', 959524954L: u'Summon Flesh Atronach', 1095188802L: u'Bound Heavy Gauntlets', 1213420102L: u'Frost Shield', 1514424410L: u'Summon Headless Zombie', 1296912198L: u'Fortify Magicka Multiplier', 1380471878L: u'Feather', 1263751748L: u'Drain ', 1162367556L: u'Drain Health', 1095783250L: u'Resist Paralysis', 892360514L: u'Bound Order Claymore', 1330662231L: u'Weakness to Poison', 1465079618L: u'Bound Claymore', 1128877146L: u'Summon Lich', 1447647322L: u'Summon Xivilai', 1329747778L: u'Bound Bow', 1312900434L: u'Reanimate', 842023234L: u'Bound Light Cuirass', 1162364242L: u'Restore Health', 1195659846L: u'Frost Damage', 1280464730L: u'Summon Gloom Wraith', 1095126854L: u'Fortify Fatigue', 808595546L: u'Summon Imp', 1096237399L: u'Water Walking', 1179010387L: u'Script Effect', 1413567044L: u'Drain ', 1414022988L: u'Light', 1162364740L: u'Damage Health', 1162564442L: u'Summon Skeleton', 1163348292L: u'Disintegrate Weapon', 825246018L: u'Bound Light Boots', 1095586899L: u'Stunted Magicka', 1330664274L: u'Resist Poison', 925914946L: u'Bound Staff', 1095783747L: u'Cure Paralysis', 1263681860L: u'DO NOT USE - Darkness', 808530010L: u'Summon Golden Saint', 1263750982L: u'Fortify ', 1095915354L: u'Summon Faded Wraith', 1279809869L: u'Summon Mythic Dawn Helm', 1413563730L: u'Restore ', 1314082640L: u'Poison Info', 1213420370L: u'Resist Shock', 1195660627L: u'Sun Damage', 1314018644L: u'Turn Undead', 1347240278L: u'Vampirism', 1095584599L: u'Weakness to Magic', 1129010010L: u'Summon Skeleton Lord', 1096045402L: u'Summon Storm Atronach', 1347633729L: u'Absorb Magicka', 1297046106L: u'Summon Zombie', 892350554L: u'Summon Bear', 1347637828L: u'Drain Magicka', 1213417798L: u'Fire Shield', 1262702412L: u'DO NOT USE - Lock', 1413564228L: u'Damage ', 875577666L: u'Bound Light Greaves', 1380142915L: u'Command Creature', 892354882L: u'Bound Light Helmet', 1094997826L: u'Bound Dagger', 1413562945L: u'Absorb ', 942692162L: u'Bound Priest Dagger', 909132098L: u'Bound Light Shield', 1330664771L: u'Cure Poison', 1212896090L: u'Summon Spriggan', 1162366790L: u'Fortify Health', 1330464068L: u'Demoralize', 925909314L: u'Bound Golden Saint Armor', 858800450L: u'Bound Light Gauntlets', 1347637062L: u'Fortify Magicka', 1213415746L: u'Bound Heavy Shield', 825251650L: u'Bound Chainblade', 1498169682L: u'Rally', 1213418327L: u'Weakness to Shock', 942686530L: u'Bound Dark Seducer Armor', 909127770L: u'Summon Mud Crab', 842028866L: u'Bound Warhammer', 1430802243L: u'Command Humanoid', 1095587650L: u'Bound Mace', 1213417804L: u'Shock Shield', 1396851027L: u'Spell Absorption', 858806082L: u'Bound Rusty Order', 1329742146L: u'Bound Heavy Boots', 1430470978L: u'Bound Heavy Cuirass', 1347634514L: u'Restore Magicka', 1213487437L: u'Summon Mythic Dawn Armor', 1162363202L: u'Bound Heavy Helmet', 1163478350L: u'Night-Eye', 1161905242L: u'Summon Daedroth', 892416090L: u'Summon Boar', 1380073815L: u'Water Breathing', 1095909712L: u'Paralyze', 1347635012L: u'Damage Magicka', 1413566278L: u'Fortify ', 1195656530L: u'Reflect Damage', 1146114906L: u'Summon Spider Daedra', 1129204819L: u'Silence', 1380401474L: u'Bound Heavy Greaves', 1162626388L: u'Telekinesis', 909137730L: u'Bound Thorn of Order', 1094931290L: u'Summon Scamp'}

mgef: 1146573650

mgef found in bush.mgef_name

previous to this in the error window is my load order.

Thank you.