[RELZ] Wrye Bash -- Thread 62 : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:57 am

Continuing from the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?showtopic=1171625...

Wrye Bash is a mod management tool for Oblivion. It has a lot of features. I mean a LOT. It's like twenty tools rolled into one. It includes as subfeatures the entire feature sets of other tools, and offers plenty of other features that no other mod tool has.

Download: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368

Documentation:

http://oblivionworks.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/oblivionworks/Programs/Wrye%20Bash/Mopy/Wrye%20Bash.html (also included in the download as "Wrye Bash.html" in the Mopy folder)
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes4Mod:Wrye_Bash
alt3rn1ty's http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35230
Waruddar's Bashed Patch option reference (see bottom of this post)

Screenshots: http://wryemusings.com/images/WryeBash_01.png, http://wryemusings.com/images/WryeBash_02.png, http://wryemusings.com/images/WryeBash_03.png, http://wryemusings.com/images/WryeBash_05.png

Requirements:

It's easiest to just download the WryePython03a package from http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368
If you want to do things manually:
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- Python 2.5:
  http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.5.4/python-2.5.4.msi
  
  http://downloads.sourceforge.net/wxpython/wxPython2.8-win32-ansi-2.8.11.0-py25.exe
  
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/comtypes/files/comtypes/0.6.2/comtypes-0.6.2.win32.exe/download *included in Wrye Python 03a
  
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/psyco/files/psyco/1.6/psyco-1.6.win32-py25.exe/download (optional)
  
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build216/pywin32-216.win32-py2.5.exe/download
- Python 2.6: *included in Wrye Python 03a
  http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.6.6/python-2.6.6.msi (2.6.5 in Wrye Python 03a)
  
  http://downloads.sourceforge.net/wxpython/wxPython2.8-win32-ansi-2.8.11.0-py26.exe
  
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/comtypes/files/comtypes/0.6.2/comtypes-0.6.2.win32.exe/download
  
  http://www.voidspace.org.uk/downloads/psyco-1.6.win32-py2.6.zip (optional)
  
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build216/pywin32-216.win32-py2.6.exe/download
- Python 2.7:
  http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.1/python-2.7.1.msi
  
  http://downloads.sourceforge.net/wxpython/wxPython2.8-win32-ansi-2.8.11.0-py27.exe
  
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/comtypes/files/comtypes/0.6.2/comtypes-0.6.2.win32.exe/download *included in Wrye Python 03a
  
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/files/pywin32/Build216/pywin32-216.win32-py2.7.exe/download
- Python 3.x: NOT Supported
- Other setups _may_work, but these are probably the most widely used and tested.
If you're trying out the new Beta Standalone versions, you don't need any of the Python components, however you may need the http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/confirmation.aspx?familyid=ba9257ca-337f-4b40-8c14-157cfdffee4e&displaylang=en, although this could change in the future (it is beta afterall).

Development: The project is hosted at https://sourceforge.net/projects/oblivionworks/develop. Want a feature? Request it https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=284958&atid=1207904! Want to get involved? Patches are welcome https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=284958&atid=1207903!

Installation:

If you are instaling for the first time, make sure you have installed WryePython03a package from http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368
Then just download and run the installer for the most recent release. You can upgrade this way too.
For manual installations/upgrades, download the archive version and extract in your Oblivion game folder (so that the Mopy directory appears in the Oblivion directory)
For WBSA (Wrye Bash StandAlone) versions, no Python components are required, but remember it is a beta and there are currently issues (see the section under Reporting Bugs.)

Reporting Bugs:

Try to give us enough information to diagnose your problem. The following is usefull information for us:
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- What are all the symptoms? Be sure to include what you did (step-by-step is helpfull), what you expected, and what happened.
- If Oblivion isn't installed in the default location, where is it installed?
- What version of the python components are installed?
  
  Python
  
  wxPython
  
  ComTypes
  
  psyco
  
  PyWin32
- What version of Windows are you using? Is UAC enabled?
- Is CBash enabled? If so, what version is displayed?
- What version of Wrye Bash are you using? If you're using the SVN, be sure to include the revision number.
- Are you using a bash.ini? If so, include its contents (in spoiler tags, please!)
If you're using the WBSA, things are a bit trickier. There are currently a few known issues:
- Wrye Bash wont work correctly if you launch it from the command line (DOS). Always launch by double clicking the exe or a shortcut to it.
- Due to issue #1, no debug mode is available. Some errors that happen will still be printed either to a "Wrye Bash.exe.txt" file, or to the "stdout/stderr" window that shows up with errors sometimes.
- There may be plenty more...just think of them as "undocumented features"
If you think you've found an error in the WBSA, be sure to uninstall ALL python components and test it again first, to be sure we get an accurate report. Having python installed can sometimes trick the WBSA into thinking that it has all of the files it requires, even if it really doesn't.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:08 am

First off getting back to a few things from the last thread:

I should be more precise with my question about the svn versions for WBSA. But I meant was that if I could download an archive and extract it into Mopy folder to update Wrye Bash in a Stand Alone version like you normally do with a python-based Wrye Bash. :wink_smile:

Perhaps you should get in touch with http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/user/613987-melchor/, because he is also a python programmer and right now he is working with the new WMSA version (my sig) but I don't know when he will be online again.

Still not sure which way we want to go with the WBSA. Packaging it all into the exe minimizes the number of files required in the Mopy folder, however changing the packaging method to an alongside zip file may clear up some issues, it's something I'm looking into. Either way, it's still a pain to make a new bundle after every svn revision. So probably just concurrent releases along with the standard version. Feel free to run the py2exe script yourself though (I know, kinda defeats the purpose, since you have to have Python installed to run it...)

Wow - busy days !
Will be catching up soon but for now another 291 installer glitch : http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2233518WB_installer_glitch.jpg
(btw what did it say ?)

YES! - The Wrye Bash 291 Installer fails at installing Python components - I thought this had been fixed (after mentioning the same problem in response to testing one of the betas of the Wrye Bash Installer) but Airgedok's post on TESNexus got me curious ...
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=5206279Untitled0.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3001246Untitled1.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4598986Untitled2.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9142216Untitled3.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3947001Untitled4.jpg (this could still do with an indication something is actually happening - I only notice because my HD led is mostly in-active, unless something loads/saves/runs/gets cached - I think most people with all the usual branding and third party tie ins, updater services etc running in the background will have a very busy HD led most of the time and will have no obvious indication they need to wait for that long pause after clicking next to actually do something - An impatient user might think its all gone wrong and hit ctrl alt delete and end the process)
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8238246Untitled5.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2269903Untitled6.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=5353430Untitled7.jpg

If you use the Wrye Python 03a Installer first, then Wrye Bash 291 .... No problems, everything works.

But there's a further problem with the above, anyone who just chooses the Wrye Bash 291 Installer route currently, has no access to the readme html - It also fails to install, so the user is left with no help if they shy away from other methods of installation - And so it follows they then cannot figure out what is wrong ( especially when someone like me is adamantly declaring it all should work

)

Looks like somethings PacificMorrowind can clean up on the next installer. No idea when that'll be ready, I'm pretty sure he wants to get the AIPackages working with CBash before 292 comes out.

I'd like to put an idea out there for debate.

Considering a wizard is just simply a txt file, should/could it be renamed as a wizard.wiz ?
.wiz being the extension.

I ask this because I am developing my wizbain utility and this could very well be a extension for wizards. If I choose to include it.
probably will, but not sure if I should use it just for project files or not.
Don't know right off the bat if any other program uses that extension, but it would make a file more easily recognizable.

Comments/suggestions?

Possibly. A few things to think about - keeping it as a ".txt" file clues users in to the fact that it's plain text, not some black magic coder file that they can't peek into if they want. Not a big deal, but hey. Other thing is, even if we switch to using a ".wiz" extension, we still have to support the "wizard.txt" method, to not break older WizBAIN's, so in actuallity all we'd be adding is more ways of doing the same thing. I'm reluctant to change things up if the only thing we're doing is making a new way to do the same old thing, especially if not really necessary. I guess I'd have to hear from a lot of folks that this would be something they want.

And a question to all using/considering using the WBSA: Would you rather...

Download the MSVC 2008 Redist once, install it, and be good to go for all future versions (that is, if you don't already have it installed from some other program)
Or, include the applicable MSVC files with the WBSA package. It would add ~.5 MB to the download

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:03 pm

First off getting back to a few things from the last thread:

Possibly. A few things to think about - keeping it as a ".txt" file clues users in to the fact that it's plain text, not some black magic coder file that they can't peek into if they want. Not a big deal, but hey. Other thing is, even if we switch to using a ".wiz" extension, we still have to support the "wizard.txt" method, to not break older WizBAIN's, so in actuallity all we'd be adding is more ways of doing the same thing. I'm reluctant to change things up if the only thing we're doing is making a new way to do the same old thing, especially if not really necessary. I guess I'd have to hear from a lot of folks that this would be something they want.

I like the idea of a new extension simply because OBMM will use the wizard.txt file as the readme if a readme file isn't included at the root. A number of us still support OBMM and provide omod conversion scripts. If we provide the readme as a PDF file, which I do on occasion, OBMM will grab the wizard and use that as the readme unless I also include a readme.txt file...

So supporting both extensions will be more work, but it would help those of us who continue to support both installation methods.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:28 pm

Thanks Lojack for your reply. I wasn't sure if that was possible or not but obvious it was not possible.

I saw this in the OP so I can inform you that I've both PM Archive tab visible and bashed patch results window in WBSA. :thumbsup:

3. ComTypes currently isn't playing nicely with WBSA. That means no "PM Archive" tab, and any window that normally displayed an html file (like the Bashed Patch results log) will show up in your internet browser instead of in the WBSA.

So this means that I don't have ComTypes installed on my end or what exactly it means? :shrug:

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:46 pm

....snip

And a question to all using/considering using the WBSA: Would you rather...

Download the MSVC 2008 Redist once, install it, and be good to go for all future versions (that is, if you don't already have it installed from some other program)
Or, include the applicable MSVC files with the WBSA package. It would add ~.5 MB to the download

I would Vote for ...Once. (save download bandwidth) Its only .5 meg but thousands of times adds up. So i took a look at what i have installed and wonder, would it have been one of these? http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee72/camaro_69_327/Oblivion%202011/MSVS_question.jpg

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:40 am

Possibly. A few things to think about - keeping it as a ".txt" file clues users in to the fact that it's plain text, not some black magic coder file that they can't peek into if they want. Not a big deal, but hey. Other thing is, even if we switch to using a ".wiz" extension, we still have to support the "wizard.txt" method, to not break older WizBAIN's, so in actuallity all we'd be adding is more ways of doing the same thing. I'm reluctant to change things up if the only thing we're doing is making a new way to do the same old thing, especially if not really necessary. I guess I'd have to hear from a lot of folks that this would be something they want.

The Reason being, I don't like the millions of people including a readme .TXT usually named just readme.txt. Whatever or just no .EXTENSION
It really bugs me

DontReadMe.txt grabs my attention, but is not very amusing.

How many times have you seen that?

There may be many files in an archive and the .wiz extension just tells that it is simply a .txt install wizard.

I think it would be helpful, tho 1 vote isn't going to cut the mustard.........

Mooooustard

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:54 am

Thanks Lojack for your reply. I wasn't sure if that was possible or not but obvious it was not possible.

I saw this in the OP so I can inform you that I've both PM Archive tab visible and bashed patch results window in WBSA. :thumbsup:

So this means that I don't have ComTypes installed on my end or what exactly it means? :shrug:

Odd... Let me confirm a few things:
a - you have no python whatsoever installed?
b - if you don't have any python components installed, what version of windows are you running, and is UAC on/off?
c - what version of the MSVC redist do you have installed?
I just ask, because all of my tests wouldn't work at all, on a XP virtual machine, with MSVC 2008 SP1 installed. Maybe I can figure something out from your setup to fix mine? :shrug:

I would Vote for ...Once. (save download bandwidth) Its only .5 meg but thousands of times adds up. So i took a look at what i have installed and wonder, would it have been one of these? http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee72/camaro_69_327/Oblivion%202011/MSVS_question.jpg

Indeed, the one you have selected there is SP1, and the one above it is the pre-SP1 version.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:52 am

I guess I'd have to hear from a lot of folks that this would be something they want.

I'd much rather things stay as they are. One reason I like BAIN wizards is that you don't have to deal with registering a new extension for the OS. You can just double click and go.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:18 am

I'd much rather things stay as they are. One reason I like BAIN wizards is that you don't have to deal with registering a new extension for the OS. You can just double click and go.

Indeed. Seconding keeping the .txt extension. The only reason I've seen proposed for changing it is that Metallicow has suggested it, which isn't a reason. His last post about readmes is a bit confusing, considering that Wizards and ReadMes are completely separate things. All I took from that was that he doesn't like it when people call readmes "ReadMe.txt"...

You already know which of a set of text files is a wizard file, because it's called "wizard.txt". That's (AFAIK) the only valid name.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:36 am

I'd much rather things stay as they are. One reason I like BAIN wizards is that you don't have to deal with registering a new extension for the OS. You can just double click and go.

Ah, I could have guessed, the first opposition.

1-1

keep em coming.

either way what should it be?
We need more than 2 votes!

Not to clutter this thread too much log your opinion here. For TES4WizBAIN.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1168606-wizbain-projects/page__p__17211592#entry17211592

WryeBash Comments should stay here.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:28 pm

I like the idea of a new extension simply because OBMM will use the wizard.txt file as the readme if a readme file isn't included at the root. A number of us still support OBMM and provide omod conversion scripts. If we provide the readme as a PDF file, which I do on occasion, OBMM will grab the wizard and use that as the readme unless I also include a readme.txt file...

So supporting both extensions will be more work, but it would help those of us who continue to support both installation methods.

I guess I need to quote my own post... Wrinkly, you ran into this yourself...

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:00 pm

Feature request: Would you please consider adding a Bash tweak to increase the volume of nirnroots. Bethesda has associated a sound with them, but the volume of that sound is such that many can not hear it at all. There is at least one mod that increases the sound, but it provides only one volume increase option.

My request springs from a discussion started in the UOP update thread beginning with post #32 http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1164539-relz-unofficial-oblivion-patch-320-unofficial-patch-supplementals/page__st__20.

Given comments there, I think the ideal tweak would need to provide a range of volume increase options. This would take into account the use of various platforms and sound systems as well as the hearing acuity of different users.

Thanx for any consideration you may give this request, as well as your indispensable work on Wrye Bash.

As one of the people mentioned who can't hear it at vanilla levels, my effects slider has always been maxed out. In fact the only audio slider I've got that's not is the music. The mod Arkngt linked to adjusts the sound attenuation levels for the specific entry covering the nirnroot sound. It's a pretty dramatic difference too. So it's not a one size fits all approach to fixing it.

well done it up however as someone who can hear pretty much anything - I can still hear bats despite being out of the normal age range for that - I'd appreciate if someone who would use it would test it out and tell me if it needs any changes.
Pacific Morrowind

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:34 am

Hi, Pacific. :wavey:

I'd be glad to test it out. How do I go about doing that? I assume the tweak hasn't been added to Wrye Bash yet.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:55 am

well done it up however as someone who can hear pretty much anything - I can still hear bats despite being out of the normal age range for that - I'd appreciate if someone who would use it would test it out and tell me if it needs any changes.
Pacific Morrowind

Well we always suspected you had "bats in the belfry" - now we have confirmation

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:06 pm

Odd... Let me confirm a few things:
a - you have no python whatsoever installed?
b - if you don't have any python components installed, what version of windows are you running, and is UAC on/off?
c - what version of the MSVC redist do you have installed?
I just ask, because all of my tests wouldn't work at all, on a XP virtual machine, with MSVC 2008 SP1 installed. Maybe I can figure something out from your setup to fix mine? :shrug:

Indeed, the one you have selected there is SP1, and the one above it is the pre-SP1 version.

Here is my conditions for WBSA...

a - python is not installed
b - Windows7-64 with UAC off and have Oblivion installed outside of C:\
c - MSVC 2008 SP1 and MS.NET Framework4

Furthermore I don't have WBSA running as admin afaik. :user:

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:11 am

Well here I go forging ahead using tools that give me results I don't fully comprehend. Perhaps my report here will not be seen as something to be attacked.

In trying to bash the patch with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19949 I get this error:

MERGE/SCAN ERROR: M.O.E. - Main Quest Delayer.espTraceback (most recent call last):  File "I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 5306, in Execute    patchFile.scanLoadMods(SubProgress(progress,0.2,0.8)) #try to speed this up!  File "I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bosh.py", line 17055, in scanLoadMods    patcher.scanModFile(modFile,nullProgress)  File "I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bosh.py", line 25070, in scanModFile    if record.eid.lower() == tweak.key:AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'

I've not seen this before. Don't know what it means. BOSS gave no tags to the esp and neither have I.

I ran the error detector on tes4edit and got a long list of 'supposed' errors:

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[edit] correction this was with the original Kvatch Rebuilt esm.

Well the bashed patch was made, but I think was skipped.

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also I got this error regarding bgmagicshader - even though bgmagic.esp is active:

KR.esm: don't know it personally but I would guess that Tes4Edit is being correct when it is reporting those errors...
I hope I've never come accross as attacking any error reports (or other kinds as well) - if so I do sincerely appologize and will try not to in the future.
Merge/Scan Error: had a deleted gmst (rather odd IMO)... and the Bash gmst code didn't expect it... got fixed a while ago (I think it was Lojack but could be wrong).
bgmagic: umh that is odd... hopefully I'll remember to look into it later... if not feel free to repost if I haven't reported back about that within the next week or two.

Sorry I have a problem with bain I have downloaded mods from tesnexus from http://www.tesnexus.com/modules/members/index.php?id=614236. Afther I downloaded his mods and copied them in bash installers directiory there was some python error so I have installed those mods myself and now it is telling me this :

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Traceback (most recent call last):
File "D:\Elders Scrolls\Oblivion\mopy\basher.py", line 4269, in OnShowPage
self.GetPage(event.GetSelection()).OnShow()
File "D:\Elders Scrolls\Oblivion\mopy\basher.py", line 2824, in OnShow
if data.refresh(progress,what,self.fullRefresh):
File "D:\Elders Scrolls\Oblivion\mopy\bosh.py", line 11479, in refresh
settings['bash.installers.removeEmptyDirs'], fullRefresh)
File "D:\Elders Scrolls\Oblivion\mopy\bosh.py", line 10003, in refreshSizeCrcDate
size = apFile.size
File "D:\Elders Scrolls\Oblivion\mopy\bolt.py", line 427, in size
return os.path.getsize(self._s)
File "C:\Python26\lib\genericpath.py", line 49, in getsize
return os.stat(filename).st_size
WindowsError: [Error 123] Nazwa pliku, nazwa katalogu lub skladnia etykiety woluminu jest niepoprawna: 'D:\\Elders Scrolls\\Oblivion\\Data\\Textures\\Derida\\Gloria\\Trish\\???????'

I have deleted them from bash installers directory but it keeps telling me the lines there are above. I like the bain but I like those mods too so I don't want to delete them so is there a way to tell wrye bash to ignore those errors while loading mods in bash installers tab.
Bain is very nice tool so I would like to keep using it but I can't because of that thing.

P.S.
The mods are working fine in game so I really don't understand why bain have problem with them.

Help would be very appreated. Thanks in advance.

That would be because some of those files use non english letters. Wrye Bash did not originally like that (as in total utter failure).
However currently there is a beta of unicode support; to activate Install a Unicode wxPython, and change bash.ini (rename from bash_default.ini if needed) to have the line: bEnableUnicode=True instead of the line: bEnableUnicode=False
I can confirm that at least on my system that with that enabled Bash will happily deal with such files.

I'd like to request the addition of code from http://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser/src/allmydata/windows/fixups.py which relates to http://bugs.python.org/issue1602 .

I suspect this would allow unicode filenames to work in BAIN with a hopeful backport to MAIN (Wrye Mash). I discovered that BAIN can't handle accented characters in either the code form used in Wrye Bash or Mash (which makes sense as they are just about the same).

The better workaround, and I suspect the one used by current modders, is to simply avoid using unicode characters in their filenames. This was used on rare occasions on Morrowind mods, probably because they didn't have BAIN so wouldn't have been concerned about it.

I'm currently only aware of Morrowind mods "The Underground 2" and "Lost Artifacts".

You can see my post here http://forums.gamespy.com/morrowind_technical_problems/b49680/20692803/p1/?0 .

Personally, I see no point in adding the code to workaround the problem as it is too trivial. I intend to remove the accented characters from filenames on the mods I have, once I determine what amendments are required to the source .NIF or .ESP.

not really needed; as far as my testing goes teh unicode support in Bash is now good enough for almost all cases (I'm sure there will now and then be corner cases using odd encoding that will have to be specially coded for but not a problem really)...

I may have reported this already - I forget.

After getting files skipped on install with Ivellon again - I again tried the unicode setting in bash and got this error in trying to open BAIN:

I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bolt.py:580: UnicodeWarning: Unicode equal comparison failed to convert both arguments to Unicode - interpreting them as being unequal  if isinstance(other,Path): return cmp(self._cs, other._cs)Traceback (most recent call last):  File "I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 4269, in OnShowPage    self.GetPage(event.GetSelection()).OnShow()  File "I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 2824, in OnShow    if data.refresh(progress,what,self.fullRefresh):  File "I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bosh.py", line 11479, in refresh    settings['bash.installers.removeEmptyDirs'], fullRefresh)  File "I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bosh.py", line 10005, in refreshSizeCrcDate    oSize,oCrc,oDate = oldGet(rpFile,(0,0,0))  File "I:\Games\Oblivion\Mopy\bolt.py", line 580, in __cmp__    if isinstance(other,Path): return cmp(self._cs, other._cs)UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xfc in position 69: ordinal not in range(128)

98% certain that you either do not have a unicode wxPython installed or don't have it set as the default one/manually making Wrye Bash use that instead of your default)... if so easy to fix just dl and install a unicode wxPython (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/wxpython/wxPython2.8-win32-unicode-2.8.11.0-py26.exe)... and try again; if that doesn't fix it let me know and I'll get a 'special' debug build up to find out what is going on for you but im 98% certain.
Pacific Morrowind

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:54 am

Hi - for the wiz vs txt - it was annoying that I always had to specify the language in Notepad++ - an extension would come in handy methinks. Btw a registry file that associates extensions with programs would be nice indeed - anyone any idées ?

WB : I installed 291 with installer - the first time it scanned the installers tab it kept throwing warnings on OBSE plugins - I believe it would be better if it only threw warnings upon an attempt to install a package containing OBSE plugins. Also it would be nice to see those plugins in the espm pane.
What you say ?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:39 am

a package containing OBSE plugins. Also it would be nice to see those plugins in the espm pane.

Agree there.

The warning was put there for a very good reason. If this is a inconvenience, Well it is for your safety more than anything. Consider yourself safe, until you click OK

Do I want to install virus? Click NO!

The checks where put there for a very good reason. Remember, You are using a python, which is dangerous. And can constrict you, if careless.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:48 am

well done it up however as someone who can hear pretty much anything - I can still hear bats despite being out of the normal age range for that - I'd appreciate if someone who would use it would test it out and tell me if it needs any changes.
Pacific Morrowind

So is this setting only used for nirnroots or for everything?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:47 am

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong to get the following error in a wizard

An error occured in the wizard script:
Line: Case "Icy Blue"
Error: (Line 64, Column 18): Missing arguments to 'SelectOne'.

If bCyrodiilGrassOptions = True	SelectOne "Pick a Grass Colour for Jerall Mountains Grass.", \				"|Icy Blue","","_Screenshots\\025 Cyrodiil - Jerall Mountains\\Icy Blue.jpg"\				"Silvery Blue","","_Screenshots\\025 Cyrodiil - Jerall Mountains\\Silvery Blue.jpg"\				"Violet","","_Screenshots\\025 Cyrodiil - Jerall Mountains\\Violet.jpg"\		Case "Icy Blue"			SelectSubPackage "025 Cyrodiil - Jerall Mountain Grass - Icy Blue"			Break		Case "Silvery Blue"			SelectSubPackage "025 Cyrodiil - Jerall Mountain Grass - Silvery Blue"			Break		Case "Violet"			SelectSubPackage "025 Cyrodiil - Jerall Mountain Grass - Violet"			Break	EndSelect

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:18 pm

I think you need commas after the descriptions. So it should be "_Screenshots\\025 Cyrodiil - Jerall Mountains\\Icy Blue.jpg",\

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:46 am

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong to get the following error in a wizard

				"Violet","","_Screenshots\\025 Cyrodiil - Jerall Mountains\\Violet.jpg"\

Take the trailing \ off the end of that line. The \ is a signal to BAIN to continue processing the next line down as part of the same string. Since Violet.jpg is your last image, you need to drop the slash so it won't try to include the "case" statement below it as part of the command.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:54 am

Take the trailing \ off the end of that line. The \ is a signal to BAIN to continue processing the next line down as part of the same string. Since Violet.jpg is your last image, you need to drop the slash so it won't try to include the "case" statement below it as part of the command.

We have lift off! - Thanks Arthmoor, Copy pasta plus studying this wizard for too long (going goggle eyed getting all the paths and screenshots right). Brittainy's Lush and Gaudy texture set is developing into a bit of a monster... decided to help out a bit - currently 439 lines in the wizard script, and expanding

Edit: For anyone interested/curious; Its not in the current bain, just prepping for 1.3

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:46 am

So someone is working on the next version. That's good. Seemed like nobody's been around for this past week who is, and I thought it might be a time-out period. We all need breaks, after all.

That being the case, what about adding the IAllyHitAllowed number to Tweak Settings in the Bashed Patch? The default's 4 or 5. I use several companions, along with Mart's, and there are a number of pitched battles where in-fighting becomes almost as bad as the scheduled combat. ("Hey, orc berserker, here! What about trying to kill me?") Putting in settings of 10, or even 15, sounds good. And it would save on using a mod to achieve the same purpose.

I think it's a reasonable question. I've posted it twice, and I'd just like to know if it's something that can be done and might be.

Yeah always working on the next version... activity and what type of activity is quite variable depending on who's got time.
added (ah quite awhile ago but forgot to respond earlier, but just in case you don't monitor the commit logs I thought I'd mention that this will be in 292)

Hi, Pacific. :wavey:

I'd be glad to test it out. How do I go about doing that? I assume the tweak hasn't been added to Wrye Bash yet.

just in the SVN... http://oblivionworks.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/oblivionworks/Programs/Wrye%20Bash.tar.gz?view=tar (just extract Mopy and Data to Oblivion and overwrite as necesary.

Well we always suspected you had "bats in the belfry" - now we have confirmation

thanks

I had one really cool experience with a bat once... I was out after dusk and suddenly I see a bat race right by in front of me and then I get clipped by the wing of a rather large barred owl that was thinking of a bat snack, hit the bat but the bat got away (albeit with a broken wing) and hid in the grass but then when I moved it flew up and down came owl and finished it off.

Hi - for the wiz vs txt - it was annoying that I always had to specify the language in Notepad++ - an extension would come in handy methinks. Btw a registry file that associates extensions with programs would be nice indeed - anyone any idées ?

WB : I installed 291 with installer - the first time it scanned the installers tab it kept throwing warnings on OBSE plugins - I believe it would be better if it only threw warnings upon an attempt to install a package containing OBSE plugins. Also it would be nice to see those plugins in the espm pane.
What you say ?

hmm that does sound like a handy thing if you are writing them frequently... I think I'd +1 the idea to support .wiz (but miantain support for .txt).
Installation of OBSE plugins has been imporoved quite a bit since the original version, and it is much better - first idea is the case now, second isn't but I'm thinking of not having that until BAIT is beta anyways.

So is this setting only used for nirnroots or for everything?

everything - if desired I can have a nirnroot only and a 'everything' - is that desired?
Pacific Morrowind

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:05 am

Yes, the main reason for asking in the first place was for the nirnroot sound. I don't have much of a problem hearing other things, but maybe other people do, so having both would be useful.

I don't suppose there's any word on Actors.AIPackages for CBash yet?