[Lily]

I am guessing the feature allows one to note what version a particular mod is on, and let the user know it was time to update. This would be cool to have on WB too, if you ever get the time.

This is on my list for BAIT. I was planning on highlighting the package in the Installers tab if there was an update available online. I haven't really started looking into this yet, though. Perhaps I can work with the FOMM guys and build on their solution.

[Kate Norris]

svn 968, somethings amiss - Usually when copying over mopy and data there are 423 files to overwrite, with svn 968 there are less at 420, and Wrye Bash will not start.

Bug Dump

C:\Windows\system32>chdir /D "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy"

D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy>c:\python26\python.exe bash.py -d

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bash.py", line 316, in
main()
File "bash.py", line 278, in main
basher.InitImages()
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 13647
, in InitImages
images['settings.16'] = Image(r'images/settings16.png',wx.BITMAP_TYPE_PNG)
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\balt.py", line 122, in
__init__
raise ArgumentError(_("Missing resource file: %s.") % (self.file,))
bolt.ArgumentError: Missing resource file: images\settings16.png.

[Frank Firefly]

I'm assuming you mean from the 'List Structure...' command, as the 'List Packages' never had any spaces in it, right?

Right

Shell scripting in wizards is a close to definite never, due to security implications. Don't want a wizard running some unknown executable on users' systems, now do we

I did not mean this - I referred to the 4096 texture pack for egnem body (High Rez Skin Textures for HGEC) - one needs shell scripts for moving this huge amount of files around - now who was this guy that wrote the wizards :thinks:

BTW - does anyone have the ability to write an OBMM script to BAIN wizard converter ? what functions are still missing ?

[Cool Man Sam]

I did not mean this - I referred to the 4096 texture pack for egnem body (High Rez Skin Textures for HGEC) - one needs shell scripts for moving this huge amount of files around - now who was this guy that wrote the wizards :thinks:

BTW - does anyone have the ability to write an OBMM script to BAIN wizard converter ? what functions are still missing ?

That's not necessary because that mod already has an http://www.gamesas.com/redirect.php?site=http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15876 (InstallTool.exe in the Texture folder) included which http://www.gamesas.com/redirect.php?site=http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20022 everything for you and http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/20022-1-1222512758.jpg can you see how to do it.

I believe that person would be either Surazal or TheNiceOne and afaik they have the knowledge to write an OBMM script.

[Penny Courture]

You may have to reinstall all of the Python components. Uninstall Python, wxPython, etc, then reinstall. Then double check to be sure you're not using the bash.ini

Ok thank you. Wrye bash works normally now. I was afraid I had already had some problems with Python a few years ago, forcing me to reformat my hard drive.

But I lost my list packaging. But I prefer this.

I will wait, as all the French community I think, an Unicode functional Wrye bash version. You should know that we are very very few users BAIN in France. Over 99% use OBMM and we are faced with another difficulty, because most interesting mods are in English (translation of the mod, read-me, tutorial ...etc).

Thanks.

[Georgine Lee]

That's not necessary because that mod already has an http://www.gamesas.com/redirect.php?site=http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15876 (InstallTool.exe in the Texture folder) included which http://www.gamesas.com/redirect.php?site=http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20022 everything for you and http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/20022-1-1222512758.jpg can you see how to do it.

I believe that person would be either Surazal or TheNiceOne and afaik they have the knowledge to write an OBMM script.

I know all about the exe - i tried to make it into a BAIN package but failed
I don't want any replacers be installed outside BAIN

[Abel Vazquez]

I know all about the exe - i tried to make it into a BAIN package but failed
I don't want any replacers be installed outside BAIN

For Ozmo's HGEC on the desktop I just made the Installer install into a temporary folder (instead of Oblivion data), and made that folder into a BAIN. It is a bit of a pain if you change your mind and want other options though whereby you would have to repeat the process with different options, I was going to have a go once at making a BAIN with all options in sub-packages ... but never got round to it (Not sure if you would be able to contact Ozmo these days either for a re-package), and later decided I preferred F-Inev textures instead, Ozmo's are a bit too glossy/oily for me.

Edit: Just had a look at the 2048 full 1.2 version - And remembered the main reason I didnt get round to it, just taking the normal maps folder as an example, theres a lot of non-standard sub folders with multiple options and among those options further renaming of individual files to be done to get one set for a BAIN sub-package option... its certainly do-able so long as you have a good idea of where everything should go eventually and create multiples of the destination folder structure, and in each of those include the correctly renamed files needed. Loooong job though.

[Pumpkin]

I know all about the exe - i tried to make it into a BAIN package but failed
I don't want any replacers be installed outside BAIN

My guess is that you failed to create is quite simple and that's of course the exe file, which I don't think Wrye Bash has an exe file supported yet only the dll file is supported afaik. I could be wrong but I don't think so.


@Lojack: You asked earlier if there were anything else to be included in Wrye Bash 292. I've one request tough and that's to add file support for RAR archive, because you can't add or delete a file in an existing 7z archive but WinRAR has that ability.

[Jonathan Egan]

My guess is that you failed to create is quite simple and that's of course the exe file, which I don't think Wrye Bash has an exe file supported yet only the dll file is supported afaik. I could be wrong but I don't think so.


@Lojack: You asked earlier if there were anything else to be included in Wrye Bash 292. I've one request tough and that's to add file support for RAR archive, because you can't add or delete a file in an existing 7z archive but WinRAR has that ability.

You can, although you might have to create the archive using certain settings, I'm not sure.

[Logan Greenwood]

BTW - does anyone have the ability to write an OBMM script to BAIN wizard converter ? what functions are still missing ?

Thanks for the compliment regarding knowledge (in a later post) - however misplaced it might be

There are still a number of OBMM script functions that do not have Wizard equivalents - especially in folder name, file name and string manipulation - so I know that at the present time I can't convert Sensual Walks OBMM scripts to Wizards.

Having said that, for scripts that do not need to be driven from folder and file name structures, WB's Wizard addresses most requirements. Imho I don't think an automated script conversion is feasible or worth doing at present.

Of course, this does not mean that it couldn't be done

[Josh Dagreat]

As I am doing my install order again, I have a small question. Why is it totally different here : http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=my_bain_package_list

compared to what is recommended here: http://wryemusings.com/Wrye%20Bash.html#Ordering (in the help wrye bash 291, not this link) or here : http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35230

:huh: What is the best way ?

[Lisa]

As I am doing my install order again, I have a small question. Why is it totally different here : http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=my_bain_package_list

compared to what is recommended here: http://wryemusings.com/Wrye%20Bash.html#Ordering (in the help wrye bash 291, not this link) or here : http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35230

:huh: What is the best way ?

The WryeMusings link you have is quite old, the most up to date online Wrye Bash help file is here http://oblivionworks.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/oblivionworks/Programs/Wrye%20Bash/Mopy/Wrye%20Bash.html#Ordering

Which now has a more expanded ordering list - The same one I used when creating the Wrye Bash Pictorial Guide - and the same one which Psymon created (from collected knowledge throughout the years from various sources I think but mostly here on gamesas) in the following thread http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1084204-bain-mod-installation-projects/ ( have a look at post No.5 )

I have not looked at Tomlongs in any great detail, nor do I know how she compiled her idea of a suggestion list - But really, such lists are only a guide as to how you should manage your install order, you could install your installers in any order you like so long as the installers with files that conflict are arranged so that the winning files (overwriting files from installers lower in the install order) are the ones you want to end up in game.

[Stephanie Valentine]

svn 968, somethings amiss - Usually when copying over mopy and data there are 423 files to overwrite, with svn 968 there are less at 420, and Wrye Bash will not start.

Bug Dump

C:\Windows\system32>chdir /D "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy"

D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy>c:\python26\python.exe bash.py -d

Spoiler

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bash.py", line 316, in
main()
File "bash.py", line 278, in main
basher.InitImages()
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 13647
, in InitImages
images['settings.16'] = Image(r'images/settings16.png',wx.BITMAP_TYPE_PNG)
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\balt.py", line 122, in
__init__
raise ArgumentError(_("Missing resource file: %s.") % (self.file,))
bolt.ArgumentError: Missing resource file: images\settings16.png.

Phooey, looks like some of the settings window stuff accidentally got in there. Fixed now with r969. About the 423 vs 420: a few of the help images got changed to PNG's vice JPG's, because they were smaller that way. Cancel.jpg, Finish.jpg, and Versions.jpg all got changed to PNGs, so you can actually delete the JPG versions.

Right

I did not mean this - I referred to the 4096 texture pack for egnem body (High Rez Skin Textures for HGEC) - one needs shell scripts for moving this huge amount of files around - now who was this guy that wrote the wizards :thinks:

BTW - does anyone have the ability to write an OBMM script to BAIN wizard converter ? what functions are still missing ?

• Ok, i'll add it back for that one
  
• I remember trying to make a bain out of that one myself, it was a pain due to the hugh textures and multitude of options. I guess I'm unclear on what you thing Wrye Bash should be able to do here.
  
• OBMM->Wizard comparison will follow in a seperate post.

@Lojack: You asked earlier if there were anything else to be included in Wrye Bash 292. I've one request tough and that's to add file support for RAR archive, because you can't add or delete a file in an existing 7z archive but WinRAR has that ability.

If you mean creating RARs, I don't think that will happen, as that requires WinRAR installed. WB can extract from RARs fine though. And as wrinklyninja said, you can add files to 7z archives. I always use WinRAR myself, because the UI is better IMO, so I don't know how to do it through the 7z UI, but there are command line options for that I remember seeing.

[Emmanuel Morales]

Phooey, looks like some of the settings window stuff accidentally got in there. Fixed now with r969. About the 423 vs 420: a few of the help images got changed to PNG's vice JPG's, because they were smaller that way. Cancel.jpg, Finish.jpg, and Versions.jpg all got changed to PNGs, so you can actually delete the JPG versions.

Yum, new standalone version too

[Becky Cox]

r969 still problems - Bugdump (Normal Python Wrye Bash, I have not tried standalone yet)

Spoiler

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bash.py", line 316, in
main()
File "bash.py", line 296, in main
app.Init()
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 5430,
in Init
size=settings['bash.frameSize'])
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 4722,
in __init__
self.SetStatusBar(BashStatusBar(self))
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 4675,
in __init__
gButton = link.GetBitmapButton(self,style=wx.NO_BORDER)
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\basher.py", line 13523
, in GetBitmapButton
gButton = bitmapButton(window,Image(r'images/settings'+bosh.inisettings['Ico
nSize']+'.png').GetBitmap(),style=style,
File "D:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Mopy\balt.py", line 122, in
__init__
raise ArgumentError(_("Missing resource file: %s.") % (self.file,))
bolt.ArgumentError: Missing resource file: images\settings16.png.

[Robert Devlin]

r969 still problems

Urgg! How did all of that get in there. It should be better now

[Marine Arrègle]

Urgg! How did all of that get in there. It should be better now

r970 Refreshing installers atm, but we have lift off ( Very curious about this one, I already took a peek in the ini and found a nice new entry )

Edit: And the shiny Installers new option

Edit2: After the first refresh, my two Official BAINs were red - Annealed them and let them re-install - Enabled appropriate gamesas content option, Refresh Data - Elapsed time 2min 18sec and they are no longer red or begging for attention during an anneal all :goodjob:

Edit3: Third load up of r970, Installers tab, refreshing did its usual plus a CRC check - Elapsed time 48 seconds and alls well. Enabling that option in my case is not much longer for the normal refresh, no doubt a full refresh would be a fair bit longer but I am liking this very much ( Biased obviously ), thank you Lojack. All BSAs' vanilla and mods modified dates are 1/1/2006 00:00 ( Thats since annealing the Official BAINs in Edit2 above - and I have not touched OBMMex )

I'm done editing - Correction - Now I'm done editing.

[Karine laverre]

291 did bring back my "lost" Notes, so it looks like 290 just wasn't displaying them. All good now. :celebration:

[Leah]

If you mean creating RARs, I don't think that will happen, as that requires WinRAR installed. WB can extract from RARs fine though. And as wrinklyninja said, you can add files to 7z archives. I always use WinRAR myself, because the UI is better IMO, so I don't know how to do it through the 7z UI, but there are command line options for that I remember seeing.

No. I didn't mean to create RAR archives instead I suggest to add a support to handle the RAR archive in WB in the same way as WB already does with 7z archives. Just so you can add or delete files of an existing RAR archive in BAIN if you wish to do so, but if WinRAR must be installed I agree with you and I think that would be a waste of the resources imo.

Again I can't add or delete files as I wish in an existing 7z archive period and http://img193.imageshack.us/i/filecommands7z.png/ can you look for your self.

[Kayla Bee]

I did not mean this - I referred to the 4096 texture pack for egnem body (High Rez Skin Textures for HGEC) - one needs shell scripts for moving this huge amount of files around - now who was this guy that wrote the wizards :thinks:

BTW - does anyone have the ability to write an OBMM script to BAIN wizard converter ? what functions are still missing ?

Exactly what are you asking for? A wizard for the mod or a converter?
I don't think there is a converter for OBMM script to wizard script yet, but it is something I have been thinking about doing for my TES4WizBAIN app.
I wouldn't be that hard to do, just a bit time consuming to put it all together to have it work right. Just as making a wizard for that mod would take a bit of thought as to how to lay out the options the best way, as time consuming. Not really hard, it's just a math problem and jigsaw puzzle problem. And writing the script/batch to rename all the resources properly.

If you mean having BAIN install from a omod script, I don't think Lojack is going to go for that one... because most everything has been covered so far with wizard script.

OBMM Script to Wizard Comparison

Functions with direct correlation:

Spoiler

• OBMM:
  If [...]
  IfNot [...]
  
  Wizard:
  If statement
  If not statement
  
  
• OBMM:
  Else
  EndIf
  
  Wizard:
  Elif
  Else
  EndIf
  
  
• OBMM:
  If DialogYesNo [Title]
  
  Wizard:
  SelectOne message, "Yes", yes_description, yes_image, "No", no_description, no_image
  Case "Yes"
  
  statements
  Break
  Case "No"
  
  statements
  Break
  EndSelect
  
  
• OBMM:
  If DataFileExists
  
  Wizard:
  If DataFileExists(filename)
  
  
• OBMM:
  If ScriptExtenderPresent
  
  Wizard:
  If CompareOBSEVersion("0.0.0.0") == 1
  
  
• OBMM:
  If ScriptExtenderNewerThan
  
  Wizard:
  If CompareOBSEVersion(version) == 1
  
  
• OBMM:
  If GraphicsixtenderPresent
  
  Wizard:
  Note: This also checks for OBGEv2.dll, unlike OBMM which only checks for OBGE.dll
  If CompareOBGEVersion("0.0.0.0") == 1
  
  
• OBMM:
  If GraphicsixtenderNewerThan
  
  Wizard:
  Note: This also checks for OBGEv2.dll, unlike OBMM which only checks for OBGE.dll
  If CompareOBGEVersion(version) == 1
  
  
• OBMM:
  If OblivionNewerThan
  
  Wizard:
  If CompareObVersion(version) == 1
  
  
• OBMM:
  If Equal
  If GreaterThan
  If GreaterEqual
  If fGreaterThan
  If fGreaterEqual
  
  Wizard:
  If statement == statement
  If statement > statement
  If statement >= statement
  If statement > statement
  If statement >= statement
  
  
• OBMM:
  Select