http://www.gamerstyle.com/general/gaming-news/brink-to-have-almost-human-ai
words cannot describe how disapointed i am on this game and 90% because of the bots i cant complete 3 star challenges, and im playing on Hard campaign. i dont wanna create a new character to be able to complete the game on hard. i wanna use my main character rank 5. and the enemy bots are to damn good for me alone with 7 braindead bots on my team that does not work like a team, its like me vs 8 super bots. my team is basicly bullet fodder, they rush alone straight into the enemy and if you are lucky they give you you a boost . im playing "be more objective" 3 star and i cant complete the repair. and i dont have xbox live at the moment, and i dont wanna be forced to get xbox live to complete the challenges. im ready to get rid of my Brink copy. sory guys i've tried to be optimistic about this game as a true fan, but what were they thinking? HAVE SPLASH DAMAGE EVEN TRIED TO PLAY ON HARD ON A RANK 3 -5 CHARACTER. such a tragedy. and thier excuses svcks. "we dont wanna make the A.I hogging all the glory" [censored] nerph the enemy bots and boost the friendly bots. and make them stick together like the enemy team does. im so mad right now.

Yes, that's true and frustrating... They did say that they will have human like AI...

It's annoying that they lied about it... But oh well :\ I'm ignoring that fact and playing the game :\

The latest patch seems to have improved team ai abit, but the balance of enemy ai and team still needs some work IMO

First of all, this has been discussed before. But I understand that sometimes it is important to post not because there is new information, but rather just because you want to share your frustration with the world. I understand (but please try and just use other threads that are already there).

Second of all, it is quite obvious that the AI is not that problem (as you yourself say, the enemy is insanely hard. And seeing as the enemy are AI bots, the programming of intelligence is not the issue). And so we are down to AI glory-hogging. Honestly, it's my opinion that this is only a matter of time until Splammage ups the friendly AI. Richard Ham stated in an interview (sorry, I do not have the link, but I think it's somewhere on this website) that the AI difficulty is being looked at, and Splash Damage has many options available to them, doing everything from upping just the friendly AI in general to setting all bots to "full-out" mode to making the enemy AI easier.

If you ask me, SD should just give us the in-game option, so we can tweak things as we see fit.

well they did say it will have human like AI

First match yesterday post patch was so amazing, no lag and like 6 humans on each side in container city. Then we lost because a bot grabbed the bio sample and proceeded to stand there for the remaining minute.

Super glad the lag was fixed, now its easier to see what else is broken.

LOL. I always shoot bot/AI teammates that grab the sample. EVERY TIME, no joke.
I only needed to see the fail, that is an AI carrying an objective, once. Have gunned them down every time, since then, and I'm not one bit ashamed about it (never lose once we've gotten a sample free). :wink_smile:

Fix your freaking AI bots, Splash Damage..... <_<

LOL. I think it's more to do with defensive-vs-offensive bots.

The worst thing about the challenges is that you don't get the unlock credit for completing it with human teammates. What a rip.... so they FORCE you to play with their flawed AI against their flawed AI.

Have you tried using a silencer with silent-step, by the way?

im using silencers but they stil know were i am on the map, they sure are very defensive and i wouldnt call my team offensive, i would call them suicidal and braindead

the problem is the AI for both sides. make enemy bots slightly nerphed and give the team bots a big boost, and i dont mind if they hogging all the glory while playing on hard. while playing on normal i dont actually care its just XP you can gain the same amount of xp in 1 minute

They didnt just lie to us.
Did anyone else seriously expect before they bought the game that when you play online it would be with people and NOT BOTs in any way?
I was expecting.. well online...
The game could be allot better if it was human only player online [it should be... its an online teamwork game for godsake, even the 'campaign' thats exaclty the same as online with A.I. takes the biscuit] But they obviously knew they cheaped out on servers and had bad online coding so made the excuse and put a load of BOTs in the online mode... making you click a different 'mode' to even play with all human players, even then not being able to find a full game or larg game without lag.
My friend never knew this, and he was playing online on standard mode [obviously] and playing the game saying he was owning and that some people are so crap they kept on going to the same spot, wondering what the hell was going on sometimes thinking people were just plain stupid n just thought wtf, he was playing for 2 days and he didnt even realize I told him he was shocked that they could do that. He had no way of really knowing that the online multiplayer was full of BOTs unless he knew the game and looked on the scorboard and knew what the sign was for bots, but he was palying games with all bots but him and he thought they were just other players. Its decieving to the maximum. out of order.
Ino he should have worked it out with the peoples names and reading through the game but really, im not suprized they never said anything about it and if I picked up the game went 'online mutliplayer' mode and just played aimlessly I would think and expect im playing with actuall people.... I wouldn't think they made an online teamwork orientated game and made me play with a load of BOTs because of poor serversand coding. which is then practicly the same as the 'campaign'.

I am only asking because I got a digital copy... but any chance he/you read the manual so you would know if you had bots or not.

And funny enough... if after 2 days he did not realize the bots were... bots... well I cannot really say SD did a bunch wrong with their programming.... or your friend is horrible.



As for the general thread. Seriously... when did consumers begin blindly believing what a company says? "Human like AI" does not mean good... it means they randomly decide to do something that you didnt tell them to... or dont think they should do. Been that way in games for many many years, this is because they will NEVER get human level thought to an AI... so they replicate it with more and more complex yes/no decision trees.

the bots are human like, it's just your team that totally svck in an attempt to get you online with buddies,once you stop and think about why they did things you don't like, such as the clear fact of your being team much less capable, then you'll understand they had good intentions,unlike CoD BadOps' useless dive attack.

Bots, human like....

Actually they seem more human than some of the people i know in real life.
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Fixed.

Thanks for the patch update. Was lagging a bit there!
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u cant complete the 3 star challenges? lol

I know what you mean, I was doing airborn recently, where resistance has to hack the mainframe. I used operative, disguised myself where no one saw me. I approached an enemy bot; he was clueless. I go behind him, press the right trigger and then bam, he turned around and shot me in the head before I even finished pulling up my smg to shoot.

Am I the only one here who thinks that by making the AI completely useless and never going for the primary objective, only going for what they think is important, is actually the most lifelike super advanced copy of real idiot human players ever?!

Don't get your panties in a bunch, I jest.