That would be pretty sweet, put those DC trenches to use.

"I've heard that you people sacrifice puppies" -The Vault Dweller

HAHAHA


Well, they send you in a hight irradiated place :rolleyes: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:

I hate the Mojave Chapter's BOS they are so weak and there leaders svck. i still don't understand how NCR destroyed them, it would have been cool if the courier could have help the BOS at Helios One

This. As House would say, "they're ridiculous".

You said that they are weak yet you say that you dont understand how the NCR destroyed them?

most brotherhood of steel members have no idea who Maxson is, so i doubt that would happen.

well i should have added "i don't know how they got so weak" the BOS got Power Armor with laser rifles and the NCR has regular Armor with service rifles

NCR did not destroy the Mojave Chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel. There is a world of difference between losing a battle (Helios) and total destruction. Clearly they are not destroyed for they would not be in the game. Father Elijah went nuts and took off, leaving a guy that thought hiding was better. They are not weak, the one guy was weak, the others are just to loyal to get ride of him by force.



Where did you get that from? :rolleyes:

(Holy [censored]! My [censored] Knight Sergeant ears are bleeding from all the BoS flame in this thread! I need to read more before i comment, Dang......) :shocking:

I love everything bout em!!! Power Armour Clad, energy weapon shootin badboys, thts why.

Elder McNamara ain't weak. He is just doing whats sensible while following the codex.

Staying in a hole for years seems weak to me. Pretty much everyone else in that bunker wanted out. He sent out people so he should not have needed us to show him things were ok enough to come out and see the sun.

What is to gain from leaving? The original objective was to save people from themselves, aka mass destruction weapons. The BoS really did not want to fight people, because in doing so, they are bound to use the weapons they collected therefor reversing all they have worked for. This would send out a message that proves the BoS's morals wrong. So, I honestly believe they said [censored] it, our opinion and meaning means nothing to others so lets die out in a hole.

I mean didn't the first leader of the BoS rebel against the United States a few days before the bombs fell? I forget the reason why but I assume it was because he did not agree with the nuclear holocaust, there for starting the BoS so that he could stop this from happening twice, granted it ever will. So turning into peace guardians has completely backfired in a sense that it has lead them to fight the NCR, super mutants and the Enclave(Which is understandable since the sort of rebelled against the Enclave before the bombs dropped).

The BoS just fell apart overtime and now they have turned into little wrecks like Elder McNamara and his group. So basically I don't see them as weak, they just are giving up slowly and going out guns blazing will go against their original goal, give them a bad name, and wouldn't accomplish anything really.

No, Maxson "rebel/desert" because he thinks the FEV experiments conducted at the Mississippi base is out of the line.

If hiding seems weak to you, then I am sure you would hand your bottom to plenty of weaklings.

(Styles,Yes he sent out people, but you forget when the people he sent out on those other missions to Nellis, Black mountain, and REPCON did not come back, he ordered the ones who had the right reports to stay put. He was being cautious, and rightly so, he had no idea why they did not come back, or the ones who were looking for the spare parts, that is why he used the Courier instead, the Courier knew about the dangers out there, and could plan accordingly for them, and it worked well, very well, they fixed the bunker, and lifted the lockdown. Where if Hardin did his coup, the bunker would still be in bad shape, remember that.....

Roughneck, i'm inclined to agree with you to a degree. First Maxson was appauled because they were testing FEV on soldiers who's brains who not scooped out to be used on brain bots, killing the scientists who worked at Mariposa. Then after Radioing he and his entire unit was in desertion, but nothing happened, because of that, he ordered all the Families of the remaining scientists and soldiers into the base, then the bombs fell. A few days later, a Sargent in power armor got rad readings around the base so they could bury the scientist bodies, and then a few days later, they sealed the base, and left on an exodus to Lost Hills, suffering many Casualties on the way there and arriving in Nov 2077, later forming The Brotherhood of Steel. While things are falling apart, that i agree on, i know they will not give up, they will rebuild, it will take time, provided they can get their heads out of the sand.)

I like that its really easy to

I love how they somehow have the magic stick that brings anyone that holds it back to life, and I love the sound of them dying!

From fire.

The people he sent out and died were not the only people he sent out and same with the scouts. He sent them to the most dangerous places. He also sent out people like Veronica. I am sure she and the others sent to get supplies could tell them that things are not all boomers and black mountain in the wasteland. Still maybe weak is to strong of a word, how about overly cautious?

(Of course he was being overly Cautious, he and the survivors got their [censored] handed to them on a plate from a completely undefendable position, lead by a elder who was mentally unstable, fighting a force that was ten time larger than their own. Besides, Veronica and the supply procurers orders was to get supplies, not to scout, if there anything like Veronica Styles, their scribes, not knights or paladins. Veronica was an exception in knowing her area, as she wanted to know more about the outside world and how it worked.

I swear sometime i think you enjoy taking a contrary point, your like the department of arguments.....and i did not pay for the full five minutes! :facepalm:

Edit: The last bit is a Monty Python reference for those of you who are unsure what i mean.)

Well I'll give you that one. I take back by remarks about their leader being weak. :foodndrink:

I like them full of holes and bleeding

nothing. theyre anti-americans that everyone likes... 2 much. the Enclave are the true heros.

I love the fact that they're quite easy to kill and that their armour is worth a FORTUNE in caps to the right merchants.

It would be easier to say what I don't love and that's thier narrow minded views on outsiders.