Should us 360 players have the same achievements Oblivion offered in regards to the Arena, DB, FG, MG, TG, the Main Quest, and one DLC or a completely different system giving us fun goals to reach after we beat the game?

I think it should be a mix of fun goals, factions and the MQ.

Or, maybe they can set all of the achievements into secret achievements

I don't mind them as long as they're not impossible.

I want a mix of fun goals, quests, and main quests. Oblivion was too easy. I'd like more variety, but don't make them too hard.

I honestly really hope not. If they want to give rewards for completing story lines and big achievements, I hope they do it in a more natural way than they did with NV. I don't want to suddenly be granted +5 damage with blades because I've dealt 10,000 damage with blade weapons all the sudden. And I really hope there won't be a little tracker on the HUD, letting me know how far along I am to some arbitrary goal. TES has always been about story and world immersion, and I feel like achievements have a detrimental effect on that.

A ton. Fable 2 had a lot of little achievements that were fun to get. Also, what about The Orange Box, 99 achievements? Yes please! More fun than just doing a set of linear quests for factions. Some things like finding certain items in the world, reaching certain levels, amount of time played, variety!

I want as many achievements as they can come up with! Oh and I want it to be a Steam integrated game since their achievement system is awesome

Maybe its because I'm a PC gamer, but I just never understood "achievements". Especially when half of them are acts that you'd accomplish anyway and not even bother telling your friends about ("OMG! Yesterday I successfully created a Bosmer!")

I know exactly what I've achieved in my journeys and I don't need the game telling me I did something awesome (or banol for that matter).

But we can all have our cake and eat it too right? Well, kind of. You see every minute they spend thinking of achievements is time away from other game mechanics. Every minute spent building the achievement badges is art resources taken away from the actual game. Every minute spent coding and bugtracking achievement progress is time spent away from bugtracking base gameplay.

I want a poll option for "I don't care about achievements. The achievement should be the satisfaction of doing things in game. I've never needed achievements in past TES games to want to do everything possible."

I like Achievements but in no way are they a musthave for me.

That made me laugh. A lot. xD

The real achievement is to complete the game with a Bosmer. They are all the time reminding you: "Look, I'm a joke with legs".

I agree

I hope they are more for misc. stuff. Quest completion cheevies' are fun, but not as fun imo as the more fallout style achievements. Collecting stuff, ect.

Not the case. This is where community manager or executive producers come into play.It's all post production stuff that has little impact on the game.

Wen reading topics like this I seriously consider that PC and console gamers are different kind of people.

I couldn't care less about achivements/trophies, they're an unnecessary gimmick in my humble opinion.

Yeah. I hated Oblivion's Achievements. I have ONE Achievement I have not yet done. That one is the Duke of Dementia one from the Shivering Isles. And I can't even get that one now. lol. But yeah, more fun/ random goals are great.

I love the kind of games that give me achievements for doing random things. oblivions achievements bugged me because they were all straight forward.

I don't know what steam has for oblivion achievements. But there was no complete the game with a bosmer on 360.
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/elder-scrolls-oblivion/achievements/

This, imo. (Although you mean "couldn't" care less, not could; if you can care less than you do now, that means you care somewhat ) I would like to add that I also feel a lot of developers (not Bethesda... so far) have begun to rely on achievements to artificially extend game duration.

For me, having to look at a list of "achievements" and try to attain them is completely immersion-breaking. I'd like my fourth wall intact, please.

But I'm glad they're there for those who want them.

I knew I forgot something *edits*

I like the fun ones - IIRC I reverse pickpocketed a grenade in Fallout and it came up with an achievement, made me giggle :happy:

It's funny because that would take ONE DAY. Oh yeah, it's also funny because you obviously haven't read Page 53 of the Skyrim Gameinformer article. The Radiant Story system tracks EVERYTHING you have done in the game. EVERYTHING. Just a byte of coding would connect that to the 360's Achievement system, and the Achievement badges? Those are pictures the Graphic artists are doing anyway for the game. They will be in the game on signs(for the Guilds) and such, and why not? If you don't play the game for a month or two, when you look back at your Achievements, you see one you had forgotten about, and think back: "Oh yeah, that part was fun!" and reminisce.That's not the only reason, of course.

Now please, excuse me while I eat my own f**king cake!

No achievements for me please, every time one of those achievement messages popped up in the corner off my screen while playing New Vegas, it completely took me out of the game.

You don't have to do them. They are there for people to try things they would not do otherwise. Chances are, people who go to these forums for every snippet of info don't need achievements to get them to do or try everything in Skyrim.